Made to Order 25th December - Sector Imperialis Terrain

[Frogian]

If someone is buying models for their 2k army, why would GW want them to pause to buy another product at a much lower profit margin? I'm sure they've looked at competing products and buyer habits and figured out its not worth dropping the profit margin on it. They're quite happy for you go to buy some troops instead of terrain

 

From a consumer point of view I do think it's too expensive (nearly all mine has come from hachette magazines), but I think the price of character models is even worse. I'm not baffled why they charge so much though, it's just a pity is all. 

Edited December 18 by Frogian

[Mogger351]

8 minutes ago, Frogian said:

If someone is buying models for their 2k army, why would GW want them to pause to buy another product at a much lower profit margin? I'm sure they've looked at competing products and buyer habits and figured out its not worth dropping the profit margin on it. They're quite happy for you go to buy some troops instead of terrain

 

From a consumer point of view I do think it's too expensive (nearly all mine has come from hachette magazines), but I think the price of character models is even worse. I'm not baffled why they charge so much though, it's just a pity is all. 

Because they could have them buy both rather than lose the additional sale to cheaper mdf. If they're at such capacity and demand that running a ix of XYZ yields a bigger return than a reduced cost terrain kit, then fair play, but it's a section of the market they'll never corner with these products and prices.

[Mostwanted]

On 12/16/2024 at 9:03 AM, dickyelsdon said:

the Imperial Sector is not actually the same as the kill team box. It was a special set to make 3 big buildings and doesn’t include any of the arch doorways of the kill team box.  The walls are actually a special (only in this set) triple wall panel. So the set isnt quite as modular as others. 
 

 

I didn't know that and I have all the kits! They are still boxed waiting for me to finally make my gaming table. I just assumed the Imperial Sector was going to contain the single wall sections like the other kits did as the components all looked like they matched. Thanks for the info, and I apologise for saying the sprues were the same. 

[The Yncarne]

I suspect terrain is a secondary purchase for most players. I know I’ve had phases where I bought models I’d never get to, but at the same time, terrain can be used by all armies/players. It can also be a good way to do group painting since everyone can benefit by finished terrain. 

[Corswain]

There are still Sanctum Administratus kits available in Australia and it seems like their RRP is $160aud. If the made to order is in line with that (a big if) then I will feel like it's justifiable.

[Bouargh]

16 hours ago, The Yncarne said:

I suspect terrain is a secondary purchase for most players. I know I’ve had phases where I bought models I’d never get to, but at the same time, terrain can be used by all armies/players. It can also be a good way to do group painting since everyone can benefit by finished terrain. 

 

Indeed, I started buying terrain only once my main armies were big enough and with an advanced level of painting completed...

 

But is it really the case or has it more to do with starting KT at more or less the same moment... 

[The Yncarne]

The games that need large amounts of terrain can do that to you @Bouargh 

[Interrogator Stobz]

It's up in NZ.

Bit steep as suspected. 

Basilicanum $230nz

Sector $330nz

Sanctum and Manufactorum $165nz

Objectives $90nz

 

 

Merry Emperor Day too

[Toxichobbit]

For anybody considering the MTO Sector Imperialis - Manufactorum.

 

The sprues inside are identical to the Battlezone Manufactorum: Sanctum Adminstratus (you can see this by comparing them on GW's webstore). 

 

The  Sector Imperialis - Manufactorum contains 2 wall sprues & 1 floor sprue, is £50 and MTO (so GW webstore only and FOMO).

 

The Battlezone Manufactorum: Sanctum Adminstratus contains 3 wall sprues & 2 floor sprues and is £63.25, is still produced (so no FOMO) and not GW webstore only, so you can get it discounted at a 3rd party webstore.

 

Don't buy in to GW's marketing with this FOMO and pay them more money for less value. Just shop around and you can get 66% more building for almost the same price. Hell, even if you buy the Sanctum Adminstratus directly from GW, you're still getting 66% more building for 25% more cost.

Edited 12 hours ago by Toxichobbit

[Hfran Morkai]

Real shame the Sector Imperialis stuff isn't coming back as a part of the core range.

 

To be fair, I've got the Kill Team set with Genestealer Cults vs Mechanicus and I'm certain a box of Chalnath somewhere.

 

Might pick up the objectives, always liked that Escape Pod as a version of a 'Stealth Pod' for Scout team insertions.

[Firedrake Cordova]

Thanks for that, @Toxichobbit - I was contemplating the Manufactorum to extend my Derelict Factorum. I'd never have noticed.  

Edited 11 hours ago by Firedrake Cordova

[Rhavien]

Real estate costs are really high nowadays, why should it be anything else in 40k...

A shame that these kits aren't availible for a reasonable price to anyone in the future. 

[Toxichobbit]

38 minutes ago, Firedrake Cordova said:

Thanks for that, @Toxichobbit - I was contemplating the Manufactorum to extend my Derelict Factorum. I'd never have noticed.  

 

If they'd brought back the Derelict Factorum I'd have been all over it. I missed that one when it was out and it's a really cool unique kit that you can't make with anything else.

[jimbo1701]

4 hours ago, Toxichobbit said:

 

If they'd brought back the Derelict Factorum I'd have been all over it. I missed that one when it was out and it's a really cool unique kit that you can't make with anything else.

Thanks for the heads up with the Manufactorum  sprues. I’m curious , Is the derelict something one could convert using the regular kits and destroying them with a hobby knife and clippers? Or any parts that are too unique for that? 

[Toxichobbit]

18 minutes ago, jimbo1701 said:

Thanks for the heads up with the Manufactorum  sprues. I’m curious , Is the derelict something one could convert using the regular kits and destroying them with a hobby knife and clippers? Or any parts that are too unique for that? 

 

Probably. But you'd need some Manufactorum/Sanctum Administratus sprues, 2 sets of Alchomite Stacks & a Ferrotonic Furnace, plus some of the Sector Mechanicus walkways. Plus a few bits of brass rod to create rebar/wires sticking out of the broken Mechanicus walkways. That wouldn't give you an exact replica, as some of the Mehcanicus panels are lifted up or missing on the original, but it'd be so close I doubt anybody but you would know.

 

The problem is that the Ferratonic Furnace is OOP and the cheapest way to get the walkways & Alchomite Stack is Sacristan Forgeshrine. So you'd be looking at 2 x Sacristan Forgeshrine, 1 x Sanctum Administratus & then sourcing the bottom part of a Ferratonic Furnace from somewhere. But yeah, if you can get the parts then it's definitely doable. Miniset.net is the best place for pictures if you do decide to embark on such a project.

[Firedrake Cordova]

33 minutes ago, jimbo1701 said:

Is the derelict something one could convert using the regular kits and destroying them with a hobby knife and clippers? Or any parts that are too unique for that? 

You can get close, but it'll get expensive. Old Average Brit Gaming's unboxing may help you see what's inside.

[ThePenitentOne]

The Sanctum weighing in at $100 is tempting- those buttress statues are awesome- two kits and you'd have 4 per side.

 

The Basilicanum is nice too, and one of those + two Sanctums and you're good. If the old SoB Sanctum had returned as part of this MTO, I would have bought that I think. It's tough, because I know the good stuff that's coming, and money is tight.

[Toxichobbit]

1 hour ago, Firedrake Cordova said:

You can get close, but it'll get expensive. Old Average Brit Gaming's unboxing may help you see what's inside.

 

Miniset.net has pictures of all the sprues for the kit, as well as pictures of different angles of it completed and a detailed description of what was in the box. It's another great resource for anyone wanting to know what they'd need to re-create it.

[mel_danes]

For those of us that missed out on these more unique buildings, this is the only way to get the statue bits correct? 

The Sanctum and Basilicanum are not buildable from any other kits. 

The prices for these two are not great, but far better than I thought they would be.

[Toxichobbit]

41 minutes ago, mel_danes said:

For those of us that missed out on these more unique buildings, this is the only way to get the statue bits correct? 

The Sanctum and Basilicanum are not buildable from any other kits. 

The prices for these two are not great, but far better than I thought they would be.

 

Yeah, that's right. I think the Sanctum is the only kit to ever include the cool arches & statues. The Basilicanum statues were in some of the Kill Team Killzones, but those are long OOP as well.