SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 If Dorn comes back, I'd like to see him as the IF overall CDR, but with a special rule "Last Wall: Dorn can command any IF successor chapter", or something like that. Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 13 hours ago, Medjugorje said: I think if he comes back - then with a golden armor and playable for IF AND BT AND CF Do Crimson Fists still have their one character in the codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNicronomicon Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: Do Crimson Fists still have their one character in the codex? We’ll just add Pedro when we add Dorn. Easy-peasy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 hours ago, SWORD BROTHER RYAN said: If Dorn comes back, I'd like to see him as the IF overall CDR, but with a special rule "Last Wall: Dorn can command any IF successor chapter", or something like that. I feel if Dorn comes back he's going to be pushed as a Black Templars character first and a Codex Chapter character second. As such, I predict a rule somewhat like this: Primarch of the Imperial Fists If your army only contains Epic Heroes with the [Imperial Fists] chapter keyword, you may include this unit in your army as though it shared the Chapter Keyword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Yes, Pedro is still around, Cortez is not AFAIK. I think if/when they bring him back the rules won't overtly favor Templars, but the fluff and model almost certainly will. I think he won't have the same wargear. None of the Loyalists so far have to prevent cross-over while the Daemon Primarchs occaisionally do keep one piece or two, but also have physical changes (wings, weapons and such). So I would not expect Dorn to show up in the Auric Armor with a big Chain Sword. I would expect to see him show up looking much more like a Gigantic super Emperor's Champion - probably a Black (Crusaders) armor with Red (CF) and Gold (IF) trim. He will have a new bolter (Maybe something like the Shoulder Mount that Tor Garradon has) and a power sword. He will also have some "piece" of the Emperor's panapoly - Guilliman has his sword, Lion has his shield, maybe Dorn gets a baroque Jump Pack with huge golden wings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNicronomicon Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 19 minutes ago, Tacitus said: Yes, Pedro is still around, Cortez is not AFAIK. I think if/when they bring him back the rules won't overtly favor Templars, but the fluff and model almost certainly will. I think he won't have the same wargear. None of the Loyalists so far have to prevent cross-over while the Daemon Primarchs occaisionally do keep one piece or two, but also have physical changes (wings, weapons and such). So I would not expect Dorn to show up in the Auric Armor with a big Chain Sword. I would expect to see him show up looking much more like a Gigantic super Emperor's Champion - probably a Black (Crusaders) armor with Red (CF) and Gold (IF) trim. He will have a new bolter (Maybe something like the Shoulder Mount that Tor Garradon has) and a power sword. He will also have some "piece" of the Emperor's panapoly - Guilliman has his sword, Lion has his shield, maybe Dorn gets a baroque Jump Pack with huge golden wings. Not to hijack the thread too much but what piece of the panoply do you think Russ will have? The Spear (though I think that counts as part of Russ's gear, not the Emperor's, right?)? Though the idea of Rogal Dorn with a jump pack is pretty funny to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, TheNicronomicon said: Not to hijack the thread too much but what piece of the panoply do you think Russ will have? The Spear (though I think that counts as part of Russ's gear, not the Emperor's, right?)? Though the idea of Rogal Dorn with a jump pack is pretty funny to me. Possibly his claw. More likely something new that will be made up and "inserted" into history - potentially a cloak. TheNicronomicon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 See, I was thinking Dorn would have the claw (with bionics inside) to replace his lost hand. TheNicronomicon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArtilleryman Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 11 hours ago, TheNicronomicon said: Not to hijack the thread too much but what piece of the panoply do you think Russ will have? The Spear (though I think that counts as part of Russ's gear, not the Emperor's, right?)? After all the hassle Ragnar went through over that blimmin thing he’d better blimmin use the blimmin spear XD Seriously though, the 30k model doesn’t have the spear, so I see no reason he can’t have it in 40k, if crossover is an issue. Edited January 11 by TheArtilleryman ZeroWolf, Karhedron and TheNicronomicon 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, ZeroWolf said: See, I was thinking Dorn would have the claw (with bionics inside) to replace his lost hand. I was thinking Russ because of Bjorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 The claw would make more sense for Dorn due to the missing hand, and the fact that his own sword was broken and used to make the Sword of the High Marshal for the BT. I could see Russ as using the spear he used against Horus, or maybe something like the Emperors Bolt Gun with some special ability. ZeroWolf and Medjugorje 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, SWORD BROTHER RYAN said: The claw would make more sense for Dorn due to the missing hand, and the fact that his own sword was broken and used to make the Sword of the High Marshal for the BT. I could see Russ as using the spear he used against Horus, or maybe something like the Emperors Bolt Gun with some special ability. I suspect if he comes back, they retcon his hands. While it would be grim-dark to see your kids have been scratching their initials in the bones of your hands, to see them CONITNUE to do it would be pretty creepy. Best to just regrow or change the history there. Rob P 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6086805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/11/2025 at 9:37 AM, ZeroWolf said: See, I was thinking Dorn would have the claw (with bionics inside) to replace his lost hand. The Emperors Claw. I like that idea ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384879-theory-of-rogal-dorns-return/page/4/#findComment-6088410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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