New Black Templar squads

[MadGamerAK]

Anybody know if there is going to be a new codex and more units for the Black Templars soon? I am getting tired of waiting.

[Sir Clausel]

Nobody knows. I bet it wont be next year since it looks like that is already packed with releases.

But even when we get something im sure it will be a single mini if we get anything at all

[Indy Techwisp]

BT Specific Chaplain is my guess

[redmapa]

7 hours ago, MadGamerAK said:

Anybody know if there is going to be a new codex and more units for the Black Templars soon? I am getting tired of waiting.

 

No one knows anything, we are so far out there's not even rumors, there's a lot of possibilities and imo we are not getting much this edition as we are already up to date BUT wolves are getting a massive update apparently so we could get a bit more than one kit to be on par with SW, there's nothing concrete and unlike the other chapters our line was never truly developed so there's not a backlog of existing units waiting for an update.

 

Maybe it'll be a new unit, a new character like Castellan Draco in plastic or our Master of Sanctity, maybe just an upgrade kit or new Terminators or our own version of a Command squad. Could be anything really.

[DemonGSides]

42 minutes ago, redmapa said:

 

No one knows anything, we are so far out there's not even rumors, there's a lot of possibilities and imo we are not getting much this edition as we are already up to date BUT wolves are getting a massive update apparently so we could get a bit more than one kit to be on par with SW, there's nothing concrete and unlike the other chapters our line was never truly developed so there's not a backlog of existing units waiting for an update.

 

Maybe it'll be a new unit, a new character like Castellan Draco in plastic or our Master of Sanctity, maybe just an upgrade kit or new Terminators or our own version of a Command squad. Could be anything really.

 

BT got a huge refresh in 9th ed; I would caution expecting anything on the level of BA/DA/SW at this point as it seems like the BT were the first of these new refreshes.

I think a BT specific chaplain makes the most sense.  Maybe a new upgrade sprue but even then, the current one is so choice.

[Marshal Reinhard]

BT specific character kit is what I think.

 

I just can't bring myself to expect something beyond that.

[Helias_Tancred]

We will get our 10th edition codex and a chapter-specific character. A chaplain, ancient, new castellan, etc?

[MadGamerAK]

I think it'll be a BT Chaplain. It seems like a perfect character to bring in.

[Helias_Tancred]

If I had to lay some money down that would be my first choice too. 

[Indy Techwisp]

What do you think a BT specific Chaplain would have to differentiate them from a normal, non-BT Chaplain?

[redmapa]

10 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

What do you think a BT specific Chaplain would have to differentiate them from a normal, non-BT Chaplain?

 

I can think of two possibilities if we are getting a unique chaplain, it could be a named character like BT Master of Sanctity getting a model so we can have a unique Terminator Chaplain OR we used to be able to give Cenobyte Servitors to our generic chaplains so perhaps an update to that idea could be a Company Heroes unit but with a Chaplain instead of a Captain, so some Sword Bros and a Servitor carrying a relic or something.

 

We could also see the return of Chaplain Dreadnoughts, that'd be the dream.

Edited December 27, 2024 by redmapa

[Nichodemus10]

People keep saying Chaplin, but we already have Grimldus. I would expect something else. It is meme worthy, but having a named lieutenant makes some sense though flavorwise I think it is hard because if you are great you probably get promoted out of that position. What probably makes the most sense is to do a black templar techmarine. Especially if it is transport focused. Imagine a techmarine who gives an aura of turbo boost for transports. The other piece would be historically on brand would be to make a crusader style repulsor that holds 22 models or 11 terminators. 

The other one that I want less, but think makes some sense would be a reiver captain or lieutenant as it doesn't exist elsewhere. But certainly is not what I want.

 

(Note that it is pretty tragic that I didn't realize that we had a Castelan model that is exactly a lieutenant, but I did double check it after realizing that the last templar book i had read was when he was just the lesser captain).

Edited December 27, 2024 by Nichodemus10

[Helias_Tancred]

A new Castellan is my second guess?

[MadGamerAK]

Yeah, now that I think about it, I agree with you.

[Medjugorje]

what about an upgrade kit to existing squads of vanilla marines (like Death company) like 3 neophyte biker in and bitz for the 3 normal outrider (as an example).

[Helias_Tancred]

56 minutes ago, Medjugorje said:

what about an upgrade kit to existing squads of vanilla marines (like Death company) like 3 neophyte biker in and bitz for the 3 normal outrider (as an example).

 

It could? But I'd be very surprised. 

 

I think a new chaplain or castellan model are more plausible versus a  BT move into a new sprue aimed at a non-thematic BT unit. Especially based on patterns so far with other 40k factions this edition. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Helias_Tancred

[Marshal Reinhard]

I would take some kind of unit upgrade sprue over a character any day. We already have all our named characters, and a bespoke marshal and castellan kit. There's also just way more utility in such kits over just a character. But its not nearly as likely. Not least because we've already covered much of all what we used to have already.

 

I would love BT flavored outrider for instance, but I think that kits needs a better multipart release first. BT terminators? Would be there for it, but that screams new Assault terminators need to come out first, so the upgrade kit can have proper shaped storm shields like the old FW ones. Etc

 

just feels more likely we get a character and that's that. I'd guess a chaplain would be more likely, but I'd personally love an ancient more (mostly because the banner would have to be very BT specific)

[Sir Clausel]

Im not sure how id feel if we just get another upgrade sprue. Ofcourse it will be nice but still a bit meh as its not a new unit.

If we get some kind of special terminators. I dont think they will be with shields. Would be too much like assault terminators and Deathwing knights. I coooould see maybe some combination of swords and powerfists. One in each hand. As it looks like they see BT more like full on aggressive and rage. So no thoughts of self preservation.

[Marshal Reinhard]

There's also possibility of a new vehicle. It just feels the least likely even if there's presedent

Edited December 28, 2024 by Marshal Reinhard

[Medjugorje]

I mean the Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Dark Angels have alonger tradition as being one of the (more loved) diverted chapters in real life and tabletop. So they have more unique units who need a refresh... we already received everything we had at the time of the release. And BA, SW and DA didnt start with that amount. At any time all factions had a new bigger or minor release. Since we had the new supplement GW showed that we will be supported by them which imo means that we will get some new things. In our big 9th edition we received not just the current things like Crusader squads, Sword Brethren and our 3 named characters but also the old marshal model as an alternative to the new model and the castellan of the main 3rd edition cover.

 

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:BTCastellan.jpg

 

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Black_Templars

 

 

But a few here maybe dont know we used to have a Crusader Bikersquad mixed with Scouts and "normal" Bikers. Thats where my idea came from.

We had a model called castellan draico and rules for a scout banner bearer.

 

Remember we had our own Forgeworld Venerable Dread, Terminator bitz.

 

[Helbrechts_Sword_Servitor]

I don't think we will get any new units or characters.

 

We have specialized vehicles (multimeltas all around), the best Marine battleline unit and a very solid melee beatstick, with two three named characters (EC, Helbrecht and Grimaldus) along a Castellan custom mini.

 

Although BT is very present in the lore and in the famdom, I don't see many people actually playing templars. I know I don't have data for this, but I see more Salamander players than Black Templars.

 

Having said that, I'd love a new Draco, so we can finally get to know what he did to be considered Excomunicate Traitoris.

[Indy Techwisp]

4 minutes ago, Helbrechts_Sword_Servitor said:

I don't think we will get any new units or characters.

 

We have specialized vehicles (multimeltas all around), the best Marine battleline unit and a very solid melee beatstick, with two three named characters (EC, Helbrecht and Grimaldus) along a Castellan custom mini.

 

Although BT is very present in the lore and in the famdom, I don't see many people actually playing templars. I know I don't have data for this, but I see more Salamander players than Black Templars.

 

Having said that, I'd love a new Draco, so we can finally get to know what he did to be considered Excomunicate Traitoris.

 

Everyone is getting something this edition, so BT are going to have a release of some kind.

[Medjugorje]

the question is not if but What we will get. There was no single codex without a new datasheet. So we will get a new one as well - a character or a unit. And because the most simple thing for GW would be an upgrade kit for an already existing unit. 

[Indy Techwisp]

10 minutes ago, Medjugorje said:

the question is not if but What we will get. There was no single codex without a new datasheet. So we will get a new one as well - a character or a unit. And because the most simple thing for GW would be an upgrade kit for an already existing unit. 

Except that even tho we have seen that a few times, it has not been the sole thing a faction gets.

Now, I could see Black Templars not get a new upgrade sprue and instead have some rules applied to the current one (like how BA's new DC units are made using their upgrade sprue), but in terms of an actual new kit I'm predicting either a BT specific Chaplain or an Emperor's Champion in a different Armor Mark/Terminator Armour.

Edited January 2 by Indy Techwisp

[CastellanDeMolay]

I don't see it being a Chaplain for a couple of reasons. Firstly, there are already two Primaris chaplain models in MkX Tacticus armour, one of which is widely available and for sale right now. I don't think we'll get a release of a generic character that every army potentially wants to take. Secondly, GW have been trading pretty hard on nostalgia with the newer BT releases, and we don't have a previous generic Chaplain model or artwork from which to draw. 

I think we can rule out the previous High Marshall Ludoldus, and a Brutalis Dreadnought is already too close to a Durandal to make another similar kit worth making.  

 

Which leaves three options on which I would bet: 

A Techmarine: https://64.media.tumblr.com/44804199d9619f7adb9c15254230943d/dd6928085c26bf3b-0f/s1280x1920/eb91f72bd1f37ac658943b038a19feebebcbd044.jpg

(I think It's unlikely because there's already a generic Techmarine)

Sword Brethren Terminators: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/14/ac/1a/14ac1abcb38fc3f12c7e671033a1b5e7.jpg

(Unlikely because It's a whole new kit, and potentially before generic assault terminators are available)

Or an Ancient: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/fd/56/b8fd56d20c1721b9d38d8876b3069fe7.jpg

(While every chapter could have an ancient, I think this one has sufficiently unique wargear and nostalgic appeal; and I think it would be easier to write distinct rules that synergise with Righteous Crusaders or reflect BT abilities in previous editions than for the other options)

 

My money's on a Power Fist Ancient, but I'd be very pleasantly surprised to get SB Termies. Personally, I'm hoping for more in the style of the Castellan model; more truescale firstborn than Primaris. 

Left field suggestion: It will never happen, but: a companion to the previous BT upgrade sprue with parts to make truescale Crusaders when combined with the tabards and weapon arms. (Legs/torso backs, more backpacks, etc)

"I am an agent of chaos" suggestion: BT-exclusive Apothecary with Jump Pack. Nothing against Blood Angels, I'd just love to see how much blood would be spat over such a release.