Marshall Bretton Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 3/2/2025 at 12:58 PM, CastellanDeMolay said: If anything, I think we'd be more likely to see a Blood Angels Terminator upgrade sprue used to launch the assault terminators. Perhaps even Space Wolves. Realistically, our best bet would be for GW to view the Assault Terminator release as an event unto itself, and use that to push a new range of Terminator upgrade sprues for a number of chapters at around the same time, and then hope to be one of the chapters that gets a kit. But blood angels just had their range update so the boat has sailed on that count and the wolves are rumoured to be getting their own specific terminator kit so it wouldn't make sense for them to also get assault terminators. Of the upcoming confirmed chapters we make the most sense if they want to release them in this addition Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6098203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/3/2025 at 10:29 PM, Marshall Bretton said: But blood angels just had their range update so the boat has sailed on that count and the wolves are rumoured to be getting their own specific terminator kit so it wouldn't make sense for them to also get assault terminators. Of the upcoming confirmed chapters we make the most sense if they want to release them in this addition Chronologically, yes, but it wouldn't fit the established pattern of every faction [which doesn't receive a significant update in this edition] getting a single character model and nothing else. I mean, there could be a notable release for BT this edition, but we got so much good stuff last time around I don't dare hope for more than a single independent character this edition. If we do get a terminator specific upgrade kit I have a bit of a wishlist: As mentioned before, chapter specific Storm Shields. I could go for some Heavy Chainswords as an alternative to Powerfists on the regular squad. I don't even care if they'd be good in-game, I just want a match for that artwork in the 4th edition codex. I wouldn't mind if they were purely aesthetic and still counted as PFs. There should be a heavy weapon for the regular squad, and I think we all know what it should be, a Multi-Melta. (What else?) Tabards would be cool, but both they and the Storm Shields would take up a lot of space on the frame. Depending on the size of the kit I'd like them, but would definitely prioritise the shields if they couldn't both fit. Power Weapons for the Assault squad would be a must, but I'd avoid giving them all swords because Deathwing Knights already have that option; I'd want more of a mix of different weapons like on the Sword Brethren kit. I suspect the new kit won't be able to make all 5 with the same weapons, so we'll probably have to model a mixture, and the rules will just give them a choice between Strike and Sweep style weapon profiles. If that's the case then we potentially save a bunch of space on the frame if there only needs to be a couple of Storm Shields and Power Weapons. If there's room for it, I could really go for one or more reliquaries in the style of our recent Marshall model's skeleton-in-stocks Iron Halo... thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6098830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just confirmed we're up next on the roadmap alongside Grey Knights. Unlikely we'll get much more than a codex, a new character perhaps - maybe an Ancient to troll Valrak... MadGamerAK 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Honestly I'm a bit surprised they showed everyone that's coming soon except for BT even though our release is as soon as GK. I also wasn't expecting SW to be shown in full so soon, I wonder if this means our release might be more related to Vanilla marines, like an upgrade sprue for Vanguard Vets/Outriders or Assault Terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Looks like BT are not involved in the 4th war for Armageddon, so no clues there about what the new model could be. I see the GK's baby-carrier is getting an upgrade kit. (Talk about polishing a turd) Our previous upgrade kit came with a sprue of vehicle parts to templarify Land Raiders and Rhinos, so I wonder if we could see something similar for Impulsors and Repulsors? I know we already have the pintle-mounted Multi-Melta in the existing kit, but otherwise there's only one or two other bits made to decorate vehicles, so I think there's room for such a product. Personally I think I'd rather have a character or another infantry upgrade kit, since the old vehicle upgrades tended to make vehicles look rather samey if you used them on everything, and didn't really add anything to the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, CastellanDeMolay said: Looks like BT are not involved in the 4th war for Armageddon Well they do say Grimaldus have some crusade rules. Inspirational champion or something like that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 9 hours ago, Sir Clausel said: Well they do say Grimaldus have some crusade rules. Inspirational champion or something like that Grimaldus is just shown as example for this ability which is called so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Did you see the amazing SW updates? New models are better than universal marine models+decorations bits, on every aspects, and forever(well, actually for the whole lifecycle of the product). We want new models. We don't want Death company type update. Even one "Marshal in photos armor" or "Castellan with jump pack" is a new model. Maritn and CastellanDeMolay 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, Tokugawa said: Did you see the amazing SW updates? New models are better than universal marine models+decorations bits, on every aspects, and forever(well, actually for the whole lifecycle of the product). We want new models. We don't want Death company type update. Even one "Marshal in photos armor" or "Castellan with jump pack" is a new model. Yeah, the new BCs and GHs look pretty great. They avoided over-designing them, but added enough detail to make them really stand-out against generic kits, they've struck a great balance there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 We might get something like the grey knights... an upgrade sprue to an existing vehicle. Just keep your expectations in check Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 19 hours ago, Marshal Reinhard said: We might get something like the grey knights... an upgrade sprue to an existing vehicle. Just keep your expectations in check Black Templars Repulsor Crusader SWORD BROTHER RYAN and Maritn 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritn Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I don't expect us to get BT specific Assault Terminators with this release, but seeing how DA received a DA specific Terminator Squad with shields and CCW, I don't think a generic squad has to be released first. Expecting a chaplain, but hoping for an Ancient if it's just one model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, Tokugawa said: Black Templars Repulsor Crusader They might actually do that though. If its a character i would love for it to be terminator anything Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 3/27/2025 at 10:15 AM, CastellanDeMolay said: Looks like BT are not involved in the 4th war for Armageddon, so no clues there about what the new model could be. I see the GK's baby-carrier is getting an upgrade kit. (Talk about polishing a turd) Our previous upgrade kit came with a sprue of vehicle parts to templarify Land Raiders and Rhinos, so I wonder if we could see something similar for Impulsors and Repulsors? I know we already have the pintle-mounted Multi-Melta in the existing kit, but otherwise there's only one or two other bits made to decorate vehicles, so I think there's room for such a product. Personally I think I'd rather have a character or another infantry upgrade kit, since the old vehicle upgrades tended to make vehicles look rather samey if you used them on everything, and didn't really add anything to the game. Don't think that can be assumed at all. Grey Knights are the poster for the book, but I think BT will almost certainly be involved - having Grimaldus in the article is a clear throwback to Helsreach. The article even says 'Legendary Space Marine chapters gather to throw back the incursion' - with the BT codex coming soon not having them involved would be very strange. Time will tell but I think it's pretty nailed on we'll be in the war. Sir Clausel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I do believe we have a spot in the upcoming 4th war supplement, might not be a large one though. I'm still tempering my expectations for whatever we do/don't get mostly because of everything we got last edition. We'll have to wait and see. At least we know it's coming soon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6102757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/27/2025 at 11:15 AM, CastellanDeMolay said: Looks like BT are not involved in the 4th war for Armageddon, so no clues there about what the new model could be. I see the GK's baby-carrier is getting an upgrade kit. (Talk about polishing a turd) Our previous upgrade kit came with a sprue of vehicle parts to templarify Land Raiders and Rhinos, so I wonder if we could see something similar for Impulsors and Repulsors? I know we already have the pintle-mounted Multi-Melta in the existing kit, but otherwise there's only one or two other bits made to decorate vehicles, so I think there's room for such a product. Personally I think I'd rather have a character or another infantry upgrade kit, since the old vehicle upgrades tended to make vehicles look rather samey if you used them on everything, and didn't really add anything to the game. wrong - they stated that Black TEmplars are involved. I think thats the reason why we will get our supplement on this date.... Its just not highlited as much because we will not receive a model range like Emperors children, Space wolves .... did or will have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6103000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) On 3/30/2025 at 9:53 AM, Maritn said: I don't expect us to get BT specific Assault Terminators with this release, but seeing how DA received a DA specific Terminator Squad with shields and CCW, I don't think a generic squad has to be released first. Expecting a chaplain, but hoping for an Ancient if it's just one model. I hope on somehting very different. I hope its a new squad - but because a character is more likely I hope on something smaller then just something we already have. A new special type of Chaplain or even something smaller ( for example a relique bearer ) which is cheap and buff more types of units. My biggest hope would be a new type of Terminator character... if it is a named one or a new generic model does not matter... I want Terminators. Edited March 31 by Medjugorje Maritn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6103002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I still think we will be the platform for new assault terminators. Release them for us with an upgrade kit and then general release I'm a few months Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6103197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/31/2025 at 7:30 PM, Medjugorje said: wrong - they stated that Black TEmplars are involved. I think thats the reason why we will get our supplement on this date.... Its just not highlited as much because we will not receive a model range like Emperors children, Space wolves .... did or will have. Do you have a link? The closest I've been able to find is a picture of Grimaldus in this article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kd8ir91o/daemons-ravage-armageddon-and-only-the-grey-knights-can-throw-them-back/ to accompany details of a non-BT unique Crusade rule, and Auspex said they were in one of his videos, but not where he got that information. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6103228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I would absolutely love a swordbrethren terminator kit of any kind but not holding my breath. It's possible assault terminators might follow a fists (along with Lysander) release too. Then there's the possibilty of assault terminators being the big thing for 11th. (8th -> shooty intercessors, 9th -> assault intercessors, 10th -> shooty terminators, 11th -> assault terminators?) Getting very curious what we will get regardless Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6103698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted Monday at 09:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:38 AM Anybody hear an "Official" word yet? Kinda fell out of the loop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6104992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted Monday at 10:46 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:46 AM Nothing yet. I dont expect to hear anything until after the chaos legions and space wolves gets their releases Marshal Reinhard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6104996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted Monday at 01:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:09 PM Pretty much. Need to get the all the lesser chapters out of the way first. Sir Clausel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6105021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Before our 9th codex I remember expecting nothing and still being disappointed. I think GW has turned a new leaf, and the sales speak for themselves. I'm hopeful they will have something fun for us this time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6105409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago The latest rumour engine looks like it's for us, either a character of some kind or an elite unit, I'm still guessing something in terminator armour SirJyo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384894-new-black-templar-squads/page/3/#findComment-6105440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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