New Black Templar squads

[SirJyo]

Kind of looks like the ornament the templar in the foreground is wearing.

Considering the new drop pod reveal and the one in the back of the image might not be coincidence.

Also the Templar that like he's holding an evicerator in the background.

It could be an upgrade kit for an existing unit.

Edited April 16 by SirJyo
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[Marshall Bretton]

Not seen that image before, it's really nice. There are some unusual markings on a few of the marines, probably just artistic licence but still interesting.

[Marshal Reinhard]

The prevalence of Navigator skulls used in the BT refresh's lineup makes me think this is really for us. It could be generic, but I think the skull would have been regular human skull in that case. So it's probably a character, maybe a backpack icon, terminator top icon or even a banner pole icon.

 

I'm finding myself hoping it'll be a Terminator Marshal as I would love to have a source for some BT Terminator bits.

 

The too good to be true dream scenario would be that it's actually a full squad, and that's the sergeant's icon. Yeah, not happening, but would be cool.

Edited April 17 by Marshal Reinhard

[Mordekiem]

I may be thinking old school, but it looks like an Iron Halo to me.  And a unique skull, not a standard human one as Reinhard mentioned.  So I am thinking a character Marshall, maybe a Castellan.

 

SB Termies would be nice so maybe it is a character to lead them?

[CastellanDeMolay]

Wild idea: (assuming it's based on the above artwork) what if It's another Sword Brethren [in Tacticus armour] kit? With the ETB versions from the last couple of new edition launch boxes both Bladeguard and Stenguard have 6 and 10 unique models, respectively. Enough for each to field a full squad; I could definitely see a lot of Frater buying another new kit to further build out their SB. Alternatively, could it be a Hounds of Morkai style witch-hunter unit? That thing looks a lot like the Skull of Cacodominus, and BT do famously hate witches, so it could make sense. 

 

That's a curious picture, it looks like there's a guy in gold in the back with no obvious BT iconography, indeed his backpack topper looks like a statue of an angel, he's almost Sanguinary Guard-esque; most of the other marines have no obvious rank markings, and that one guy has a Lieutenant stripe on his helmet and Fast Attack shoulder pads with the red trim. 

[redmapa]

I think it could be part of some sort of Ancient or relic bearer which could be singular or part of a BT Command Squad, the Iron Halo looks a bit too big to be on a backpack unless it's a Terminator model imo.

[Tokugawa]

I don't think that artwork is model-kit accuracy. If there coming a shooty/hybrid veterans unit like, "bolter brethen", shouldn't it belong to our Imperial fists brothers?

[CastellanDeMolay]

8 hours ago, Tokugawa said:

I don't think that artwork is model-kit accuracy. If there coming a shooty/hybrid veterans unit like, "bolter brethen", shouldn't it belong to our Imperial fists brothers?

I'm speculating that a kit may be based on the artwork, rather than the artwork being made for a kit, but given how much BT artwork exists that has never been turned into a model I would be very surprised if something like this got made. Personally, I could really go for an "army builder" type of kit; just put as many bodies, shoulder pads and backpacks on a frame as possible so I can have more variety in sculpts and throw all my spare arms and weapons at them, but I don't see that happening any time toon. 

[redmapa]

So apparently all the common datasheets that the cult legions have with CSM have a new spin to make them unique to their vanilla counterparts, do you guys think that's going to happen to our vehicles? In a way it already did as they are a "different" datasheet so they could just take it a step further.

[Marshal Reinhard]

The recent wolf guard reveal for the space wolves reaffirms that I hope whatever we get is terminator related, even if it's a single character. I want to see them do a Sword Brother Terminator and go ham with it.

[Sir Clausel]

Just now, Marshal Reinhard said:

The recent wolf guard reveal for the space wolves reaffirms that I hope whatever we get is terminator related, even if it's a single character. I want to see them do a Sword Brother Terminator and go ham with it.

Same. Give us a Terminator Castellan now and a Terminator Marshall with Swordbrethren Terminators next edition!

[Tokugawa]

13 hours ago, redmapa said:

So apparently all the common datasheets that the cult legions have with CSM have a new spin to make them unique to their vanilla counterparts, do you guys think that's going to happen to our vehicles? In a way it already did as they are a "different" datasheet so they could just take it a step further.

It's quite inconsistent now so we don't know whether BT hover vehicles would have different rules with universal ones and whether it would be a good thing. WE predator annihilator has better output at close range(BS 4+ but 3 turret shots instead of 1), DG predator annihilator is weaker and EC can't bring it at all.

 

I really wish Marshall/Castellan receive different rules with Captain/Lieutanant, instead of "the identical unit but with worse wargear options".

[SirJyo]

Chaos on pre-order,

next week seems light.

Imagining an AOS release in between and we can expect to see our preorder at end of may? Early June?

[Medjugorje]

far too early. I think TS and Chaos Knights are early june and then our supp will be in late summer

[SWORD BROTHER RYAN]

17 hours ago, Medjugorje said:

far too early. I think TS and Chaos Knights are early june and then our supp will be in late summer

 

I think you might be right on that timeline. Looking at what we already have, it does seem like something either Terminator related would be on offer, or maybe a BT specific generic Chaplain (to go with our BT Marshal)? Terminator Chaplain?

[Sete]

I'm still hoping for Terminators, with an Option for Terminator Castelan/Marshall like the sword bros kit. 

[redmapa]

47 minutes ago, Sete said:

I'm still hoping for Terminators, with an Option for Terminator Castelan/Marshall like the sword bros kit. 

 

I'm convinced that it's going to be Terminator related and we haven't been shown yet so they could focus on showing SW Terminators which got an article just to show that update. I'm pretty sure the next preview is on the 22nd so we'll see what we get next week, fingers crossed it's Terminator Sword Bros, even as an upgrade  sprue it'd be cool to see.

[Sir Clausel]

39 minutes ago, redmapa said:

 

I'm convinced that it's going to be Terminator related and we haven't been shown yet so they could focus on showing SW Terminators which got an article just to show that update. I'm pretty sure the next preview is on the 22nd so we'll see what we get next week, fingers crossed it's Terminator Sword Bros, even as an upgrade  sprue it'd be cool to see.

No preview show for minis next week. Its just video games.

[redmapa]

18 minutes ago, Sir Clausel said:

No preview show for minis next week. Its just video games.

 

Bummer, I thought the skulls preview was in addition and not instead of the one scheduled for the 22nd.

[Marshal Reinhard]

5 hours ago, Sete said:

I'm still hoping for Terminators, with an Option for Terminator Castelan/Marshall like the sword bros kit. 

that would be the dream scenario

Edited May 15 by Marshal Reinhard

[MadGamerAK]

There was kinda something, GW released a picture on there website, it looks like a relic type item with a psycher skull in the middle, everybody is assuming it's a anti psycher Black Templar unit type thing, I am trying not to get my hopes up but there is a very high chance as of right now we will be getting a new unit.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Said image has been posted and discussed in this very thread. There are several instances of mounted Navigator skulls (sanctioned mutants with three eye sockets) in the Black templar range, none of them serve any specific rules function, aside from the Cacodominus's artifact skull.

 

The image in question appears to be yet another ordinary Navigator skull which is why the running assumption is its for us. That said given that none of the ordinary Navigator skulls serves any practical purpose, its a bit of stretch to assume that the new one will, or to assume its neccessarily mounted on something new. 

 

Given that the skull has iron halo type spikes around it, it feels fairly safe a bet that its a backpack icon, mounted on a banner or possibly on top of a terminator chassis for a marshal or castellan.

Edited May 16 by Marshal Reinhard

[SWORD BROTHER RYAN]

So,,, nothing yet...

 

Admittedly, hard not to fall back on our old-school pessimism of getting overlooked time and time again, but I'm hoping for some kind of Terminator too. I just hope they tell us what it is, whatever it is, soon. I know there was a lot of speculation about an IK combat patrol that never came about, but we're a lot easier to get something into. (Please don't make it part of a larger box set full of things I already have!)

Edited May 16 by SWORD BROTHER RYAN
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[Marshal Reinhard]

Well, getting fully overlooked doesn't seem to be an option, everyone is getting *something*, and the aforementioned image really does feel like it would be for us.

 

Question remains what that something is, the seemingly worst possibility, is that's something like what the Grey Knights got (upgrade sprue to an old vehicle) which seems unlikely as the rumor image doesn't appear to be vehicle related, while the better one would be the "Terminator something" option that most people are hoping for.

 

What has me the most concerned, is while both DA and SW got some neat Terminator kits as part of their refreshes, BA only got pads a head and a stormbolter bit. The skeptic in me finds it odd that'd we'd get a bespoke terminator model while BA didn't?

 

And yeah, no large box please. I feel the need to prune my selection as it is already.

[Medjugorje]

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