Space Marine Rumours

[chapter master 454]

In terms of missing components, we have quite a lot due to various bits of mismanagement and/or complete failure in their plan to axe firstborn like they were doing with Stormcast in Sigmar.

 

Leader options have become disjointed and lacking in a rather large area of things that need addressed and if we were to complete them out, the space marine roster would swell uncomfortably not to mention various unit gaps we still have. For characters, I'll try and keep this organised:

Captains: Bike

Lieutenant: Bike, Jump, Gravis, Terminator

Chaplain: Jump (technically, I don't think BA get to count here), Gravis, Phobos? (Do we want to count phobos? I will just for the sake of it)

Librarian: Bike, Gravis

Ancient: This one is up to you guys, do we need Ancients in all armour variants?

Apothecary: Bike, Terminator, Phobos (depends on how you count the Helix Adept)

Judiciar: Another odd ball. Due to being a chaplain in training, I would like to see maybe Phobos and Biker variants.

Techmarine: Bike, Phobos, Terminator, Gravis

 

Historically we haven't had all of these in the past technically but may as well note all of the possible missing options and as we can see...marines likely would have more HQ (Headquarter...old-guard name for leaders) options than most armies have actual dataslates in total. This doesn't even touch on units we are missing as people have pointed out, Outriders and Suppressors needing their MPK (Multi-Part Kit) not to mention updates to other units such as Vindicators and Whirlwinds.

Space marines are in no shortage of possible options for kits to be made to keep sales going but yet GW keep making new units that bloat the codex badly. However, that is a symptom of trying to get "clever" with space marines and finding out the the lesson of Optimus Prime past.

I think that shows how unfavourable Sigmar is compared to 40k as a note. Good game, but certainly struggling to hold an audience and GWs handling of it is just herramaging players it feels.

 

So of the colossal list of possible characters we could get, what would I like to see?

Well, a nice solid reinforce on the biker front would be great. Biker Librarian, Captain and Lieutenant would be a major boon and great additions to the codex, helping shore up a weak front in what is an iconic army style. Maybe even a Biker Command Squad to cover the Apothecary and Ancient if they aren't to receieve their own stand-alone units.

Some odd ball left fields could be Techmarine variants, maybe slip a few jump packs in.

 

But we all know that actually filling gaps isn't what GW does...they give us completely new units that we didn't ask for. So I wager it will be the Decimator Siege battery assault support tank transport with character tank option that is a command transport orbital drop gun platform mobile fortifation Fronteris Defender Command Battle Bunk-tank.

...that floats...

[siegfriedfr]

Pretty certain that GW will expand all the big legions over time with a small-sized release (ie Primarch (when alive), character, elite, special), accompanied with more generic units for all SM factions.

Wouldn't be surprised that's the main theme for 11th and 12th, same for the left over Chaos Legions.

[Karhedron]

4 hours ago, chapter master 454 said:

Leader options have become disjointed and lacking in a rather large area of things that need addressed and if we were to complete them out,

 

I strongly doubt that GW will fill in all the missing blanks for Leader and armour combinations. Having removed the Dark Angel Strikemaster (Terminator Lieutenant) I doubt we will see a generic one added back in. I fully expect the Wolf Guard Terminator Battle Leader to disappear when the new codex arrives. 

[WrathOfTheLion]

55 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

I strongly doubt that GW will fill in all the missing blanks for Leader and armour combinations. Having removed the Dark Angel Strikemaster (Terminator Lieutenant) I doubt we will see a generic one added back in. I fully expect the Wolf Guard Terminator Battle Leader to disappear when the new codex arrives. 

GW giveth and taketh based on model availability at any given time. They also scrubbed the Chaos Lord on Jump Pack in the 9E CSM codex, only for it to return with a new kit at the 10E launch. So I'm not sure I'd try to read too much sense out of it.

[Madao]

On 12/31/2024 at 1:55 PM, ThaneOfTas said:

Well no, we don't *know* that Russ is coming or that the wolves are getting anything more than a single model with their codex. We strongly suspect based on moderately reliable rumours and predictions informed by past actions, but that's not the same as knowing.

 

We also do know that they're the last of the divergent chapters to get their upgrade, seeing as the others have already gotten (at least the beginning of) theirs.

 

As to your speculated list of updates, there's no guarantee at all that all of those are getting upgraded in this release, and every chance that some of the ones that do come will be "upgraded" the way that Death Companies kit was, which is to say a bare minimum upgrade sprue while ridding it of any character. 

They are definitely not last if we count GK into divergent chapters - they have 1. ONE! Upscaled model (Castellan Crowe)

[ThaneOfTas]

40 minutes ago, Madao said:

They are definitely not last if we count GK into divergent chapters - they have 1. ONE! Upscaled model (Castellan Crowe)

Considering that the Grey Knights have their own full codex and don't make use of Codex Space Marine or the army rule... I say that they dont count, they really are their own army far more so than BT, BA, DA or SW.

[Sete]

Could use some Primaris Jetbikes. 

 

 

[Orange Knight]

I am hoping we get some jetbikes. Sammael may have had the last jetbike of a certain pattern, but the Mechanicus vaults have been opened and technologies not seen for millenia are now commonplace across the battlefields of the 40k galaxy.

 

If we don't get a whole unit, I would be ok with the White Scars being the only chapter in the standard codex with access to a jetbike character because they deserve support, but ideally there could be a generic option and a named character variant.

Edited Thursday at 09:14 AM by Orange Knight

[Felix Antipodes]

I would love a generic Primaris Chapter Master (with or without accompanying Honour Guard) release.  One can dream…

[Evil Eye]

Honestly I'd rather Marines didn't get mass-produced jetbikes. Sammael being the only one with one, and Custodes being the only force with access to them as part of their regular arsenal makes them feel more "special". A plastic Sammael would be cool (providing they don't "update" him too hard).

 

A Captain on bike would be nice, as would a new model for Kor'sarro Khan on Moondrakken. If we are getting a new Lysander, I hope he's good, the metal one was a classic. As mentioned prior, new Assault Terminators would be nice too; they could possibly get away with an upgrade sprue for the existing kit, to be fair.

[Redcomet]

12 minutes ago, Evil Eye said:

Honestly I'd rather Marines didn't get mass-produced jetbikes. Sammael being the only one with one, and Custodes being the only force with access to them as part of their regular arsenal makes them feel more "special". A plastic Sammael would be cool (providing they don't "update" him too hard).

 

A Captain on bike would be nice, as would a new model for Kor'sarro Khan on Moondrakken. If we are getting a new Lysander, I hope he's good, the metal one was a classic. As mentioned prior, new Assault Terminators would be nice too; they could possibly get away with an upgrade sprue for the existing kit, to be fair.

Agree. Normie marines should only have bikes with wheels. Samael should be easy to update. Just make it slightly larger and give his armor the mk x update. Pose and details are darn near perfect 

[Wispy]

imo all space marines should ride winged wolves instead of jetbikes

[Indy Techwisp]

@Redcomet @Evil Eye

I was under the impression that Samael's "big thing" was that he had the only working Jetbike in the Imperium, right, so what if the flying bikes Generic Marines get simply... aren't jetbikes and are Cawl-Pattern Gravbikes instead?

 

That still leaves Samuel with the only Jetbike and allows for other LSM factions to have a jetbike style unit.

[drakheart]

I would like a primaris flyer, but I guess a plastic Overlord is a bit much to hope for.

[Sete]

2 hours ago, drakheart said:

I would like a primaris flyer, but I guess a plastic Overlord is a bit much to hope for.

Yeah would love one of those aswell.