New Index List

[NKirkham24]

Hi all,

 

I’ve got my first game in Monday with the re-released index.

 

I’m waiting on a delivery before I can make a Talonstrike killteam, so the list is as follows:

 

Indomitor - 3x melta, 3x flamestorm aggressors, 4x heavy Intercessors 

Gravis Captain - Beacon Angelis

 

Indomitor - 2x melta, 1x bolt aggressors, 7x heavy Intercessors incl 2x Heavy Bolters

 

Veterans - xenophase & combi, 3x HTH, 4x shield and power weapon, 2x frag cannons

Judiciar - Thief of Secrets

Corvus Blackstar

 

Redemptor - plasma, Gatling, bolsters, icarus

 

Fortis - TH & hand flamer on Sgt, 2x Intercessors, 3x Pyreblasters, 4x Hellblasters

Librarian

 

Veterans - 2x shield & Bolter, frag cannon, infernus, xenophase

Watchmaster - Tome of the Ectoclades

 

Veterans - 2x shield & Bolter, frag cannon, infernus, xenophase

Artemis

 

Artemis and the Librarian were late additions, filling out points.
 

The small Veteran squads are to utilise the up & down strat for points and mission play

 

10 man Veterans and Judicar are in the Corvus, Gravis captain and friends are in deep strike. 
 

Looking forward running them. Any suggestions on the list?

[W.A.Rorie]

Interesting list. Curious how it goes, please keep us informed. 

[Dr. Clock]

My main suggestion is just to scratch together more thunder hammers obvs. It's the reason to take those for sure...

 

I just tried my first plasma/missile Fortis team and they did admirably - Infernus build is pretty dang cool tho! Librarian is a cool trick in there too : )

 

Other than that it's certainly somewhat character heavy, though dropping a bunch to get Talonstrike seems like a strong choice.

 

You may find that you're a unit or two short just on pure action economy after that tho... It's easy to forget that you should plan for at least 2 units a turn to do nothing at all in terms of damage... and at present it just won't feel great to give up any of your units' offense.

 

Thus, I think you could do worse than focusing on just like 3-4 'full teams' and making everything else cheaper trading pieces so you can spread out more for mission play, and to lose fewer attacks when doing actions. Like, be prepared for the possibility that instead of 1x10-man Talonstrike, 1x5 JPI and 2x3 Inceptors will just get you far more success from sheer coverage.

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

[HeadlessCross]

Immediately dump the Corvus. Yes it's the coolest looking Marine flyer, but none of the Marine flyers are any good, let alone even mediocre. 

[Indy Techwisp]

If you could free up 20pts from elsewhere, you could replace the Corvus Blackstar with a Spectrus Killteam.

[HeadlessCross]

2 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

If you could free up 20pts from elsewhere, you could replace the Corvus Blackstar with a Spectrus Killteam.

They could probably just lose the Librarian. 4++ is fun and all but otherwise Librarians don't contribute much outside the Librarius lists I see perk up online right now. 

[NKirkham24]

I’m definitely planning the Talonstrike once I’ve got it built and painted.

 

The Corvus is in for anti tank, I know it’s not great but not got too much else anti tank wise. 
 

I would like some Eliminators for the Spectrus team before using that.

 

And it would definitely be the Librarian and Artemis being dropped at some point, they’re more filler at this point 

[HeadlessCross]

The Corvus ain't it when it comes to anti-anything, really. I'd sooner take 2-3 Firestrike Turrets, and those have a LOT of issues. 

[Dr. Clock]

2 hours ago, NKirkham24 said:

in for anti tank

It is essentially combat ineffective. ~1.5 anti-tank shots is effectively no anti-tank. With the godhammer treatment for 2 shots it might be a threat... So I use it as a glorified Rhino to send a kill team on to an objective, but it always feels about 50 points overcosted. 2x Rhinos for projection/protection for kill teams will generally be better, and cheaper!

 

It's still my vanity unit tho, so I respect the choice to keep it in even if you accept it's sub-par.

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

[NKirkham24]

I’ve not played it yet in 10th, not had a game with the limited data sheets from the Imperial Agents codex, so the reborn index is the first play for me.

 

Definitely a vanity thing atm, and yes, the anti tank is sub optimal of course, but like you say, it’s rhino capacity with a few more guns.

 

I’ll probably ditch it after a couple of games but I still want to try it, mainly because it’s a great model.

 

I wouldn’t mind getting a Biologis and adding it to the other Indomitor squad, I think lethal would be very nice on this heavy bolt rifles

Edited Saturday at 11:13 PM by NKirkham24

[HeadlessCross]

18 hours ago, NKirkham24 said:

I’ve not played it yet in 10th, not had a game with the limited data sheets from the Imperial Agents codex, so the reborn index is the first play for me.

 

Definitely a vanity thing atm, and yes, the anti tank is sub optimal of course, but like you say, it’s rhino capacity with a few more guns.

 

I’ll probably ditch it after a couple of games but I still want to try it, mainly because it’s a great model.

 

I wouldn’t mind getting a Biologis and adding it to the other Indomitor squad, I think lethal would be very nice on this heavy bolt rifles

To say it's Rhino capacity is misleading. Rhinos themselves are 75 points. You're paying well above twice the cost for a total of 3-4 guns. 

 

Also the Heavy Bolt Rifles already have Lethal Hits. The Biologis only adds to melee and the Melta/Aggressor range weapons. That's not worth 70 points.