Las Vegas Open 2025 Preview

[Lord Marshal]

Obviously we're finally getting Fires of Cyraxus. 

[Redcomet]

It will be nice to see how Lucius looks.

 

But if that is new Black Knight cavalry, my last resistance for doing a SBGL force will disappear.

[Indy Techwisp]

Just now, Dagoth Ur said:

I have no idea why people are speculating that the automata is a thousand sons psy robot. Its silhouette is exactly that of the already existing Thanatar Cavas, its main weapon is obviously the Solex pattern heavy lascannon and the ribbed tubing behind its right hand side matches that of the Calix' graviton ram weapon exactly. I'd be extremely surprised if this isn't a Thanatar Calix slated for the 2nd mechanicum wave in plastic. It doesn't even have any trim or anything that would tie it to the Thousand Sons.

 

There's been an ongoing rumour that Thousand Sons are getting Psy-Automata this edition, rumours that are backed up by Rumour Engine images.

 

Horus Heresy is notably absent from the list of gamelines being shown at LVO, along with Warcry and Killteam.

 

So the fact that there's a Horus Heresy Automata right there in the teaser for a preview show where Horus Heresy is absent from the gamelines getting previews heavily implies that it's the Psy-Automata.

[StrangerOrders]

Guys, I got it, the Thallax are actually the new unit the TSons are getting and the slight bit of extra gibbets on the silhouette are Tzeentchian mutations. That way 40k Admech players never get more robots and 30k TSons players can't use their unique automata in 40k, unfortunate side victory for Admech players.

 

Source: It came to me in a warp dust-fueled dream.

 

Edit: Darn it, got beat to the punch. Kinda hilarious how many people got the same idea though, kinda speaks volumes.

Edited January 6 by StrangerOrders

[Indy Techwisp]

3 minutes ago, -DonCorleone- said:

Whitefang said the SBGL is getting Deathrattle expansion army set.

 

Yep.

Black Knights, Wight King on Foot, Zombie Dragon and a few other things iirc.

4 minutes ago, Fire Golem said:

The first is clearly Lucius, and the 2nd is also exactly a Thanatar Calix, which isn’t in plastic yet. 

 

Yes, however Horus Heresy is not in this Preview, so it can't be the Thanatar Calix for Horus Heresy.

[Fire Golem]

1 minute ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

There's been an ongoing rumour that Thousand Sons are getting Psy-Automata this edition, rumours that are backed up by Rumour Engine images.

 

Horus Heresy is notably absent from the list of gamelines being shown at LVO, along with Warcry and Killteam.

 

So the fact that there's a Horus Heresy Automata right there in the teaser for a preview show where Horus Heresy is absent from the gamelines getting previews heavily implies that it's the Psy-Automata.

Except its point for point 100% a Thanatar Calix with absolutely nothing different or TS about it. I think it’s much more likely that they missed HH off the systems, or this is all we’re seeing for it so they didn’t bother mentioning it. 

[Ahzek451]

I was too slow, ninja'd.

As much as I would love the T.sons to have their robots revealed in this show, I would say with 90% confidence that is not what that is. Its a Thanatar calix siege in plastic, I would recognize that outline anywhere, I have a couple of the old resin models. I think them omitting Horus Heresy might be a mistake. 

Edited January 6 by Ahzek451

[TheMawr]

Community team making mistakes is not that uncommon. Likeliest answer is there is horus heresy, but they forgot to add the name

[Indy Techwisp]

1 minute ago, Fire Golem said:

Except its point for point 100% a Thanatar Calix with absolutely nothing different or TS about it. I think it’s much more likely that they missed HH off the systems, or this is all we’re seeing for it so they didn’t bother mentioning it. 

 

It wasn't in the video or the Graphic.

I can expect them to miss it from one, but not both.

 

Also as for "this is all we're seeing so they didn't bother mentioning it",  they had a preview Stream with Necromunda as the first thing on the list and all that was shown off was the Silhouettes of the Hive Secundis Van Saar guys.

[Dagoth Ur]

1 minute ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

There's been an ongoing rumour that Thousand Sons are getting Psy-Automata this edition, rumours that are backed up by Rumour Engine images.

 

Horus Heresy is notably absent from the list of gamelines being shown at LVO, along with Warcry and Killteam.

 

So the fact that there's a Horus Heresy Automata right there in the teaser for a preview show where Horus Heresy is absent from the gamelines getting previews heavily implies that it's the Psy-Automata.

 

I'm aware of the rumors. However, and this might just be Occam's Razor speaking, I fail to see how a mini that is a carbon copy of a missing (and crucial) plastic mechanicum release and has not a single element of the current 40k Thousand Sons design language represented in its silhouette and what few reflections of its surfaces we have seen "heavily implies" that it's a Psy-Automata - particularly given that we have at least one rumor teaser image that is probably a part of a Psy Automata (Given the banding) and clearly not part of this miniature. I think it's far more likely that HH just simply...wasn't listed (either someone forgot, or it might be the least substantial portion of the preview). If this actually turns out to be a Thousand Sons 40k release I'll smoke a Thallax.

[Fire Golem]

My guy, it’s literally just the Thanatar Calix. 
 

Why would the Thousand Sons just get a Mechanicum Calix with no changes whatsoever, before HH even gets it? 

[ZeroWolf]

So far, no clarification about Horus Heresy being accidentally missed off the list on social media so far (from a look on X) might be different on Facebook.

[Indy Techwisp]

Just now, Dagoth Ur said:

I'm aware of the rumors. However, and this might just be Occam's Razor speaking, I fail to see how a mini that is a carbon copy of a missing (and crucial) plastic mechanicum release and has not a single element of the current 40k Thousand Sons design language represented in its silhouette and what few reflections of its surfaces we have seen "heavily implies" that it's a Psy-Automata - particularly given that we have at least one rumor teaser image that is probably a part of a Psy Automata (Given the banding) and clearly not part of this miniature. I think it's far more likely that HH just simply...wasn't listed (either someone forgot, or it might be the least substantial portion of the preview). If this actually turns out to be a Thousand Sons 40k release I'll smoke a Thallax.

 

What if we're both right tho?

What if they forgot to put Horus Heresy in for the Thallax because they've got both a 40k TSons Thallax and a HH Admech Thallax to preview and got confused?

[Dagoth Ur]

Just now, Indy Techwisp said:

 

What if we're both right tho?

What if they forgot to put Horus Heresy in for the Thallax because they've got both a 40k TSons Thallax and a HH Admech Thallax to preview and got confused?

 

......What?

[Indy Techwisp]

2 minutes ago, Fire Golem said:

My guy, it’s literally just the Thanatar Calix. 
 

Why would the Thousand Sons just get a Mechanicum Calix with no changes whatsoever, before HH even gets it? 

 

Games Workshop works in mysterious ways.

 

For all we know it's neither HH Admech or 40k TSons and this is the Necromunda mini for a "Reprogramed Battle Automata" Brute for House Van Saar or something. 

[Fire Golem]

Okay, sure, whatever. It’s definitely anything except the model that it very clearly is just because they missed a system out. 

[Dagoth Ur]

1 minute ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

Games Workshop works in mysterious ways.

 

For all we know it's neither HH Admech or 40k TSons and this is the Necromunda mini for a "Reprogramed Battle Automata" Brute for House Van Saar or something. 

I suppose that is a theory one can have.

[TheMawr]

Psy automata are also described as merger of flesh, daemon and machine. I really think they want to go for a contrast with rubric there.

[Ahzek451]

I think it is far more likely the T.sons bots will be revealed at Adepticon. We still have to get through the Kreig release, Eldar(feb-ish), imperial/chaos knights, and whatever else GW has for the next couple months before their proclaimed "year of Chaos" even begins, which I geuss is going to be kicked off with Emperors Children. (before death guard, t.sons, and world eaters get their turn). The spotlight mostly on the E.Children for awhile since its the biggest shiny new toy, hence we get to see a special drip feed of things over a long period of time. 

Edited January 6 by Ahzek451

[TheMawr]

The 16th is a thursday btw 

So, even if not on the show, it can still be a hh thursday reveal on the same day   

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

1 hour ago, DeadFingers said:

Lucius is that you me boy me lad?

Yep. Lovely Lucius. I hope they bring also a W40K version of Eidolon.

[Indy Techwisp]

They've still yet to confirm if they did miss our Horus Heresy or not.

 

If they didn't forget, and they confirm as such, then it's probably the Psy-Automata.

 

Otherwise, it probably it just a Plastic HH Thanatar that they forgot to include on the list.

[Lord Marshal]

It's been pointed out to me elsewhere that on the article they state "But for now, here’s a taste of what’s to come in 2025…", which could be implying they're not necessarily what's getting shown at LVO, thus the presence of the obvious Thanatar? 

[Indy Techwisp]

Just now, Lord Marshal said:

It's been pointed out to me elsewhere that on the article they state "But for now, here’s a taste of what’s to come in 2025…", which could be implying they're not necessarily what's getting shown at LVO, thus the presence of the obvious Thanatar? 

 

Maybe, but it's also in the video which in which they say its about LVO

[TheMawr]

Just now, Lord Marshal said:

It's been pointed out to me elsewhere that on the article they state "But for now, here’s a taste of what’s to come in 2025…", which could be implying they're not necessarily what's getting shown at LVO, thus the presence of the obvious Thanatar? 

 

I assumed this too, as the article implies that , but the video makes it clearer for LVO... using the word reveals instead