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[roryokane]

The silhouette looks like a scout marine or one wearing Phobos armour. Given that it’s just a shadow, and the Salamanders have been teased… Raven Guard?

 

or, going ultra-tinfoil-hat for a moment, the background colours are roughly those of the Astral Claws, and we’re going to get Badab War stuff. :p

Edited January 17 by roryokane

[Wormwoods]

[Fire Golem]

I must say I’m really excited for the Ash Waste Nomads stuff for Necromunda. I love the AWN, the Helamites are excellent, all the Forge World models are superb, but I’ve always found the base gang kit to be a bit static. These new guys look like a great balm for that, particularly kitbashing between the two kits.

[Nephaston]

3 minutes ago, Jukkiz said:

don´t know why that commisar/adept looks like shy school girl, holding her hands behind her back and looking at her crush.

I guess the main difference between a stern old man surveying what's in front of him and a shy schoolgirl would usually be the shyly pivoting leg, which is obstructed on that commissar, so not entirely obvious.

 

I got left out in school ground romances though, so I'm not sure if school girls hide axes behind their backs.

[Northern Walker]

EC range looks really good, I really like what they've done with them.

Interested to see marines sort of on a roadmap without any hint of the rumoured SW updates. Must say the pace of codexes coming out is frustratingly slow.

[Borbarad]

That Salamander on the roadmap preview was probably the most surprising thing. Is that a stand-in for codex space marines or are we getting an actual Salamanders codex - and perhaps big daddy Vulkan?! 

[Marshal Loss]

Not sure why they keep insist on making Minka Lesk models instead of other more notable/famous/long-running BL characters, even from among the Imperial Guard (other than the fact that she's new and they're actively writing books for her), but eh. Can't say I agree with the choice but I'm clearly not the target audience

[Wormwoods]

3 minutes ago, Borbarad said:

and perhaps big daddy Vulkan?!

Please no we have so many primarchs running around already.

[Nephaston]

1 hour ago, Indy Techwisp said:

...what do you mean we didn't have a Horus Heresy roadmap?"

To be fair, if the rumour of a new edition are even remotely true then a roadmap would look like various random minis peppered throughout until summer, with a big REDACTED on the rest of it.

[Mogger351]

RIP imperial knights I guess?

[Fire Golem]

2 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

RIP imperial knights I guess?

Either a simultaneous release with Chaos Knights, or maybe a shared codex even, is my guess. I dunno why you wouldn’t release them together anyway. 

[Magos Takatus]

I'm not normally much of a Chaos boy, but I'm quite keen on those Noise Marines. They look like a hybrid of the ugly 2nd edition noise marines and the Kakophani, but in a good way. I even like most of the EC models apart from some of the weird, rubbery heads.

[Mogger351]

13 minutes ago, Fire Golem said:

Either a simultaneous release with Chaos Knights, or maybe a shared codex even, is my guess. I dunno why you wouldn’t release them together anyway. 

It's kinda like saying it's obvious to release space marines and chaos space marines at the same time.

 

Largely it's more that they were next up after eldar in the last road map the  yeeted off to oblivion.

[Fire Golem]

8 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

It's kinda like saying it's obvious to release space marines and chaos space marines at the same time.

 

Largely it's more that they were next up after eldar in the last road map the  yeeted off to oblivion.

I guess, but there’s like 6 kits total for Knights over both ranges and they’re essentially the same, whereas there’s probably like 150 between SM and CSM and much more variety. Knights and Chaos Knights are pretty small books with so much overlap I’d do them together, if I were in charge. 
 

Edit: I’d forgotten that we’d had the ‘roadmap’ with Knights on though, I thought their placement was just from rumours. That is weird. 

Edited January 17 by Fire Golem

[ZeroWolf]

33 minutes ago, Borbarad said:

That Salamander on the roadmap preview was probably the most surprising thing. Is that a stand-in for codex space marines or are we getting an actual Salamanders codex - and perhaps big daddy Vulkan?! 

This could be how they set up the rest of the Primarchs returning datasheet wise (I'd assume either IF will get love similarly or Dorn will just get added to BT codex with rules that he counts as IF, BT or CF as someone else here suggested) this way we don't get a codex with three-four Primarchs jammed in.

12 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

It's kinda like saying it's obvious to release space marines and chaos space marines at the same time.

 

Largely it's more that they were next up after eldar in the last road map the  yeeted off to oblivion.

That is because that's largely what happened from my eyes. Which is why Valrak says he doesn't like talking about dates as GW can switch things up to some extent.

[TheArtilleryman]

Agree that xenos, particularly orks, should be sooner. What would be great is if instead if instead of jumping straight to 11th, they were to do a second 10th launch box with orks and an FAQd rulebook instead. Still get the hype train going but let us have longer on this edition so we’re not starting the cycle all over again.

 

… edited… never mind we’ve had tons of Eldar lol… I wonder why they didn’t get a battleforce though 

Edited January 17 by TheArtilleryman

[Wormwoods]

2 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

This could be how they set up the rest of the Primarchs returning datasheet wise (I'd assume either IF will get love similarly or Dorn will just get added to BT codex with rules that he counts as IF, BT or CF as someone else here suggested) this way we don't get a codex with three-four Primarchs jammed in.

I'm always in favour of generic versions of named character models. Give us a generic 'space marine primarch' option, give 'em a big aura and let them suplex tanks.

 

Who am I kidding, I still wouldn't spend 500 points on that.

[ZeroWolf]

1 minute ago, TheArtilleryman said:

Agree that xenos, particularly orks, should be sooner. What would be great is if instead if instead of jumping straight to 11th, they were to do a second 10th launch box with orks and an FAQd rulebook instead. Still get the hype train going but let us have longer on this edition so we’re not starting the cycle all over again.
 

I’m wondering why the Eldar are in that map as “now” when we haven’t previewed their launch box yet. EC look like they should be after Eldar on the roadmap but we’ve had their preview first. Hopefully this means their launch is imminent any day now. Got raging inspiration to build an army comprised of jetbikes, fire dragons and wraith constructs and paint them all orange.

 

… maybe they shouldn’t launch it yet 

You want Orks to get a 2nd codex? They got theirs last year.

[sairence]

Lol. That EC box has basically twice the model count of the Guard box. What is the world coming to? 

 

Also, please no combined Knight-Codex. I don't want to sully my place with those weird spiky things. Nobility or bust!

[TheArtilleryman]

4 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

You want Orks to get a 2nd codex? They got theirs last year.

I’m so confused right now… just realised how much Eldar have come out too when I thought they hadn’t … how have I missed so much 

 

Do some factions get a battle box when others don’t? I don’t remember seeing one for orks or eldar.

Edited January 17 by TheArtilleryman

[Wormwoods]

Combined Knights could work, just have some chaos-themed and imperial-themed detachements (but not so heavily themed that you can't do an aggressive Imperial house, or a cautious Chaos house). As has been stated, it's not an army with a lot of models, why not save on printing and put it all in one book?

[sairence]

Frankly, they need to do more to distinguish Imperial and Chaos Knights, not go back to muddling them together into two diminished halves of something that isn't one whole.

 

[Magos Takatus]

5 minutes ago, Wormwoods said:

Combined Knights could work, just have some chaos-themed and imperial-themed detachements (but not so heavily themed that you can't do an aggressive Imperial house, or a cautious Chaos house). As has been stated, it's not an army with a lot of models, why not save on printing and put it all in one book?

Only if the roll Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard and Thousand Sons into Codex Spiky Marines first. 

[TheArtilleryman]

1 minute ago, Magos Takatus said:

Only if the roll Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard and Thousand Sons into Codex Spiky Marines first. 

They should. I want a big liber Astartes too with every marine faction.

[ZeroWolf]

5 minutes ago, TheArtilleryman said:

I’m so confused right now… just realised how much Eldar have come out too when I thought they hadn’t … how have I missed so much 

 

Do some factions get a battle box when others don’t? I don’t remember seeing one for orks or eldar.

They got battleforce rather than army boxes (definition is that a armybox contains the codex and is mostly made up of new models, battleforce will contain the new model the faction got while putting in a lot of older stuff). If an army is having a limited number of additions (1-3 character models) then chances are they'll just get a battleforce available on release of the codex. Eldar could be the first one to get a significant number of releases and not get an army box. GW is consistent in being inconsistent.