DemonGSides Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, Evil Eye said: One thing that bothers me about the whole "Look, we're going back to Cadia!" thing is that, to my way of thinking at least, the point of 40K was that you and Your Dudes (and your friends and Their Dudes) were fighting in their own corner of the galaxy; a setting as vast as the entire Milky Way should be the ultimate sandbox for making microcosms/mini-settings, that whilst not important to the overall state of the galaxy (which is thematically the entire point- "You will not be missed" meaning "you are insignificant in the cosmic scale of things and nothing ever makes any lasting impact on the galaxy") is still large enough to tell grand stories in their own right. By focusing on the same locations over and over again, it not only gets very boring but also shrinks the setting. The sandboxed microcosms which make 40K so engaging to tell stories in suddenly play second fiddle to the "official" settings; it's gone from the written about, canonical battles being historical footnotes to inspire the really important battles (the ones YOU fight) to the other way around, where the games you play with your friends are insignificant to whatever stupid storyline GW cooked up this month, where two named characters fight and come away basically unscathed ("So, next time next week, Abaddon?" "You betcha, Big G!") and nothing actually happens. It's the culmination of 40K's transition from a setting into a story, and I for one don't like it at all. Throwing out plot hooks for the stories YOU want to tell is one thing ("Rumours abound of holy relics and sacred weapons from Fallen Cadia making their way around the galaxy...") but dragging everyone into the same location AGAIN, with anyone who doesn't take part being "unimportant" is a bit crap, frankly. I don't think anyone's making you play games on Cadia, this is just a cool animation. Ming the Merciless, ZeroWolf, Nightwing and 7 others 2 7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6086717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, DemonGSides said: I don't think anyone's making you play games on Cadia, this is just a cool animation. You say that, but GW will send those hit-squads if you have the gall to play a plague war campaign once the animation hits. ZeroWolf, Nightwing, Evil Eye and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6086723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsondave Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 So we already went back to the 9th edition narrative with Pariah Nexus. Now we’re back to end of 7th with Cadia. Can I buy bitcoin at 2017 prices? Marshal Rohr, HolyPestilience and DemonGSides 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6086726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 WarCom Article. And another trailer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6087430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/8/2025 at 2:25 PM, Robbienw said: "Look we progressed the storyline and destroyed Cadia" "Yeah its actually pretty much still there lol" Cadia is now the supervillain that gets thrown off a cliff but has disappeared by the time they look over the edge. skylerboodie, roryokane, Domhnall and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6087435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, grailkeeper said: Cadia is now the supervillain that gets thrown off a cliff but has disappeared by the time they look over the edge. Indy's family - the Imperium mourning the loss of Cadia Indy - Cadia crimsondave, Domhnall, skylerboodie and 3 others 1 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6087441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 'Cadia Stands!' 'Yeah, that checks out actually' roryokane and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6087446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 "coming back was bad idea" Not a single purple eye to be seen, smh Noctis, bloodhound23, Cenobite Terminator and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6087617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastyfish Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Jukkiz said: "coming back was bad idea" Not a single purple eye to be seen, smh I suspect that is intentional given the shots they've taken. Perhaps the purple isn't entirely genetic and with Cadian regiments having spent so much time so far from home there aren't that many real, original ones left (which in turn makes the pilgrimage back to Cadia even more important a ritual for those wanting to hold onto their identity as Cadians). Could even be a case like with Salamanders and Nocturne, so you can tell who is a 'real' Cadian within the regiments as they are the ones who's eyes have turned purple after returning to the Cadia and the Eye itself. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6087752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, Tastyfish said: I suspect that is intentional given the shots they've taken. Perhaps the purple isn't entirely genetic and with Cadian regiments having spent so much time so far from home there aren't that many real, original ones left (which in turn makes the pilgrimage back to Cadia even more important a ritual for those wanting to hold onto their identity as Cadians). Could even be a case like with Salamanders and Nocturne, so you can tell who is a 'real' Cadian within the regiments as they are the ones who's eyes have turned purple after returning to the Cadia and the Eye itself. No its not genetic, its from staring directly into the eye of terror for a certain unspecified length of time not to say it could be passed on genetically thou Cenobite Terminator 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6087758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_In_Alaska Posted Thursday at 12:15 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:15 AM Anyone else notice Lorgar at the end of this? Just insane that GW casually throws that out there. MechaMan, Cenobite Terminator and Dark Shepherd 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Thursday at 12:53 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:53 AM 37 minutes ago, Jason_In_Alaska said: Anyone else notice Lorgar at the end of this? Just insane that GW casually throws that out there. Guess the question is, is this show canon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted Thursday at 01:06 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:06 AM 50 minutes ago, Jason_In_Alaska said: Anyone else notice Lorgar at the end of this? Just insane that GW casually throws that out there. We've known Lorgar is active in realspace for a while now tho... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted Thursday at 01:15 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:15 AM This was pretty cool. Some of the animation really made me feel like I was watching the original Starcraft and Brood War opening Cinematics with how they looked/were animated. Enjoyed it! A different type of one of these animations for sure. Cenobite Terminator and roryokane 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_In_Alaska Posted Thursday at 01:32 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:32 AM 35 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Guess the question is, is this show canon? Honestly that doesn't make sense. A show created by GW expressly to expand lore and stories within the 40k universe, what caveat would make you think that its not canon? Its kind of like asking if their audio stories are cannon or their novels. skylerboodie, Blindhamster, roryokane and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Thursday at 02:10 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:10 AM 36 minutes ago, Jason_In_Alaska said: Honestly that doesn't make sense. A show created by GW expressly to expand lore and stories within the 40k universe, what caveat would make you think that its not canon? Its kind of like asking if their audio stories are cannon or their novels. Plenty of official media for lots of franchises have not been canon. Star Wars holiday special is one one example. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_In_Alaska Posted Thursday at 06:00 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:00 AM 3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Plenty of official media for lots of franchises have not been canon. Star Wars holiday special is one one example. Yeah but not specifically with 40k. As someone who has played since 1987 I can say that the canon nature of 40k is "everything is canon until its retconed." or to put it another way "everything is canon, until its not". A great example of this is the 13th black crusade event that happened in the early 2000's the lore behind that event got a codex and was canon until GW decided that instead of a draw like the event turned out to be, they advanced the story line in the end of the 7th ed and beginning of 8th. The original event was canon until it wasn't, and only GW has the power to say something is not. We as fans never get a vote on canon because we are not the rights holder. Dalmyth, ZeroWolf and roryokane 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roryokane Posted Thursday at 07:15 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:15 AM 6 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Guess the question is, is this show canon? I didn’t clock it was Lorgar. Just thought it was the demon that possessed the marine showing its true power. DemonGSides, MechaMan, Avf and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaMan Posted Thursday at 07:26 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:26 AM 10 minutes ago, roryokane said: I didn’t clock it was Lorgar. Just thought it was the demon that possessed the marine showing its true power. Yeah me too, what makes people think it’s Lorgar? Avf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dried Posted Thursday at 09:35 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:35 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, roryokane said: I didn’t clock it was Lorgar. Just thought it was the demon that possessed the marine showing its true power. Yep I thought the same. I loved this episode btw! Edited Thursday at 09:36 AM by Dried Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted Thursday at 12:58 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:58 PM 5 hours ago, MechaMan said: Yeah me too, what makes people think it’s Lorgar? A growing chunk of the community wears primarch-tinted glasses. MechaMan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted Thursday at 01:01 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:01 PM Just now, Jareddm said: A growing chunk of the community wears primarch-tinted glasses. Probably doesn't help when a certain someone releases a video about it Still don't see it myself but I'm happy to be wrong It's still strange that we've never seen any Primarchs animated outside of trailers unless I'm missing any appearances. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenobite Terminator Posted Thursday at 02:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:12 PM I enjoyed it, the animation was tight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Thursday at 02:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:12 PM 1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said: Probably doesn't help when a certain someone releases a video about it Still don't see it myself but I'm happy to be wrong It's still strange that we've never seen any Primarchs animated outside of trailers unless I'm missing any appearances. People were already talking about this like 10 hours before valrak uploaded his video on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted Thursday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:41 PM 26 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: People were already talking about this like 10 hours before valrak uploaded his video on it. Yesterday someone tried to rob my house so I spent most of the day off the Internet, when I got back on I had literally hundreds of messages of people saying Lorgar has returned hes in this animation. I watched it soon as it came out and I saw nothing of that, I think people are confusing the Daemon at the end with Lorgar, they think he's saying the world 'SON' but if you turn on the subtitles it states: Spoiler MechaMan, DemonGSides, skylerboodie and 5 others 1 1 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385021-return-to-cadia/page/2/#findComment-6089871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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