Teetengee Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, Arikel said: Depends. For me it would be a rules question. If these are going to proxy as ratling snipers, then 1 or 2 spotters and a bunch of bots. If they are something else, then it would depend on that something else’s rules (ex if proxied as an am heavy weapons las cannon team or auto cannon team, than 1 spotter per bot, with each spotter and bot sharing a base) I'm not worried about rules for now, just making stuff. For now, neither the bots nor the one spotter I've done even have bases. I suspect what I may end up doing is basing each separately and then creating joint bases to slot them into, so I can either use them as separate units when I use custom rules, or a wound marker for a heavy weapon team or similar when using counts-as. For now it's more an aesthetic and narrative question than a rules one. Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6105799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 (edited) Two more jezzail bots done! Bot 2 Bot 3 Family Shot: Still need 2 more spotters. ---Magistrate, attached are vids of the captain's assassin (S1919). It appears to be one of the mutant infestation being reported in Hive Captus. Unlike the swarm behavior of the others, it has been observed operating solo, and exhibits substantially greater tactical acumen. Proctor Carnecaput thought the solo activity presented a chance to capture for interrogation a higher level target within the mutant forces. What remains of the Proctor's body and two recovered bodies of slain squad members are included for further analysis. Survivors report that S1919 possessed extensive bionic enhancements and while it initially appeared to be armed with scavenged imperial weaponry, the munitions from rifle had mutagenic properties. Out of spiritual concern, I formally request alerting the Adepta Sororitas temple and have recommended the survivors for ecclesiarchal assessment. --- Edited April 20 by Teetengee Grotsmasha, Tallarn Commander, Dr_Ruminahui and 5 others 5 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6105884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 The notion behind the assassin is a heavily cybernetically enhanced combat expert armed with a sniper rifle modified to fire heavy warpstone (i.e. chaos corrupted transuranic element) which not only is highly radioactive, but bears the taint of chaos corruption. A target who is unable to withstand the warp influence will rapidly mutate, not generally anything useful, but certainly unpleasant. It also therefore poses a risk to not just the target's body, but their soul as well. Even survivors are often haunted by warp-addled dreams, and have increased risk of falling to corruption. RolandTHTG, Tallarn Commander, Firedrake Cordova and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6105886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusted Boltgun Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 That's a great idea for the armament. I like it a lot. I can imagine a rule in a Kill Team environment where the recipient has reduced movement or AP over subsequent turns.. Firedrake Cordova and Teetengee 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6105893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/19/2025 at 1:28 PM, Teetengee said: I'm not worried about rules for now, just making stuff. For now, neither the bots nor the one spotter I've done even have bases. I suspect what I may end up doing is basing each separately and then creating joint bases to slot them into, so I can either use them as separate units when I use custom rules, or a wound marker for a heavy weapon team or similar when using counts-as. For now it's more an aesthetic and narrative question than a rules one. Fair enough on that. Build it then find rules to suit. In that case I would consider how autonomous the bots are, whether they are simple automatons that are controlled individually by each spotter like a drone, whether they are capable of independent action but benefit from the direction of a fully sentient commander like servitors, gretchen or beasts with a handler, or even if they possess enough mental acuity to act completely individually(whether it’s heretical AI, a minor demon engine, or transplanted humanoid brains that are less damaged than the average imperial It seems you might be leaning to the more to the one per bot already, but just a few extra musings Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6105898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 Abominable intelligence, but controlled by handlers/overseers/etc. Yes this is a bad idea, but that's kind of how skaven do technology, with wild abandon. It's mainly a question of ratios. I'm leaning toward one and one because it feels like a logical extension from skaven jezzail teams. Dr_Ruminahui, Firedrake Cordova and Tallarn Commander 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6105913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 (edited) Made another spotter for the jezzails and for some reason I just feel they're unspeakably cute: Edited May 3 by Teetengee firestorm40k, Firedrake Cordova, Tallarn Commander and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6107804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Looks great Teetengee 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6107876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 Third spotter nearly done, just have to add a little bracket to his cabling in the back. firestorm40k, Tallarn Commander, Firedrake Cordova and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6107938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 Ok! Final spotter done! Very proud of doing the little bracket/clip for the wire since it's the first time I've been satisfied with a non-organic form sculpting work, I feel. And two more stormvermin (thunder, I think, maybe thunderguard to represent a unit intended for ranged weaponry like these are rather than something running around with powerhalberds) Command Model. Might try to even out some stuff on the sword sides. Rank and File Dr_Ruminahui, Rusted Boltgun, Firedrake Cordova and 4 others 3 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6108433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Looks great to me. more-more! Teetengee 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6108450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) at some point I should be getting the necessary components to build another big walker, a screaming bell, and also a lightning cannon to slap together with a krios (which I am planning on trying to push myself for sculpting fabric and reinforcement plates for, as well as maybe some additional skaveny weaponry) For right now I am trying to get through infantry backlog. Hopefully I should have some horde to mill about the legs and wheels of my fantastic war creations, all the better to highlight their magnificence Edited May 8 by Teetengee Arikel, Dr_Ruminahui, RolandTHTG and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6108453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 (edited) And heavy weapons for the stormvermin. I am curious how many you feel should be in a unit of ten, so please weigh in there if you have thoughts. The idea for this one is some sort of radiation weapon, so I'll likely paint the end as a focusing lens or emitter of some kind, thus the lack of drilled barrel. Edited May 10 by Teetengee Tallarn Commander, kabaakaba, Rusted Boltgun and 3 others 3 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6108766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted Monday at 12:18 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 12:18 AM (edited) In addition to the heavy weapons question (how many in a unit of 10 elites?), I started in on my krios conversion: Gotta trim up the wheel (or put some spinning blade thing on it if I can figure out how to sculpt/kitbash it). But also, how the warp am I supposed to paint this? Should I leave the krios treads completely disassembled and paint before assembly? Should I leave just the treads off to add some angle options but otherwise assemble? Should I intend to just paint the whole interior the same color with heavy wash so I can do a full assembly and not worry about it? (I am keeping the central piece in a couple pieces and without the wire stabilizers to paint then assemble) I am also planning on sculpting up a rat tail for the driver and figuring out some options for irregular plating, symbols, maybe some hanging fabric, and what to do with side sponsons (if any). Lore-wise, I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm thinking the word crisis could be fun to incorporate somehow. Edited Monday at 12:20 AM by Teetengee firestorm40k, phandaal, Dr_Ruminahui and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6108937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallarn Commander Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:54 PM If possible, I would probably paint the model as sub-assemblies. It looks fantastic by the way—pure Sci if Ikkit Klaw! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6109051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted Tuesday at 10:29 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 10:29 PM Some more work done! I still want to do sculpting, add some gribblies, and figure out how to skaven up some sponsons, but at least I have figured out subassemblies for painting. Tallarn Commander, firestorm40k, Rusted Boltgun and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6109613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted Wednesday at 12:11 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:11 AM (edited) That's peak space skaven there. Nice. Edited Wednesday at 12:12 AM by Dr_Ruminahui Tallarn Commander and Teetengee 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6109660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted Thursday at 08:24 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 08:24 AM I'm so excited for Call to Arms, it's gonna be perfect to get this lot painted, and I should have just enough time to get the full 20 clanrats, 10 stormvermin, some characters, and a screaming bell all assembled (maybe also another tank if I'm feeling industrious) before or near the start! Perfect timing, and I get to break out my xmas present (kolinsky brush set my husband got me) that I haven't had a chance to use yet. For the crisis tank (I need more words for this) I am torn between doing some sort of ratling gun or some sort of warpflame projectors for the sponsons. The flame has the added benefit of being able to clean off the spinning blades, while the ratling gun could theoretically be synched with them to avoid damage. Both have strong lore concepts (and in practice I think when I write up army rules for these clowns I might allow both sponson types, maybe also some sort of single shot high powered weapon like the jezzails), but looking for advice on which. I am thinking of getting stormfiend bits (or if doing the single shot, maybe a bombard type like I have on the rat ogors) for either scenario, but I'm curious as to people's thoughts on it? Rusted Boltgun, Tallarn Commander and Dr_Ruminahui 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6109921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallarn Commander Posted Thursday at 05:42 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:42 PM Ratling Gun! Yes! Yes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6110029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusted Boltgun Posted Thursday at 10:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:07 PM If it were mine, it would be The Greater Tracked Kryzys (my apologies to anyone Polish). Or Kry-kry for short. Whatever you call it, it is absolutely mega! Teetengee 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6110073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted yesterday at 08:32 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 08:32 AM I think Crisis-Track works, as it seems to fit into the Screaming Bell/Plague Catapult/Doomwheel/Doom-Flayer naming scheme, thanks! Rusted Boltgun 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6110149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Hephaston Posted yesterday at 12:41 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:41 PM On 1/9/2025 at 5:31 PM, ZeroWolf said: As far as rules go, I'd say try proxy necrons, they aren't exactly 1:1 but I think you could make them work (say the regeneration rule is either them eating warpstone or getting more rats in to take others place! Stalingrad it is then. "First rat gets a gun! second rat gets ammo! If the rat with gun dies, the rat with ammo picks it up!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385038-space-skaven-spavenerrr-skace/page/4/#findComment-6110191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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