librisrouge Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I like rough riders and death riders. I apologize for nothing. I'm strongly considering running a list with: Lord Solar Leontus Lord Marshal Dreir 30 Rough Riders 30 Death Riders If the points I've seen are correct, that adds up to 970 points, leaving 1030 for the rest of the list. I'm 100% sure I'll be running it as a Recon Element. It is the detachment that offers the most to mounted units and is powerful in general. What I'm not sure about is what I'd using the rest of the points on. Part of me wants to make it simple and say armor but the detachment offers literally nothing to them. Another part of me wants to lean in to the Krieg mindset and take infantry with heavy weapons and field guns (including the new Krieg ones). They'd benefit more from the detachment and can add a lot of firepower to the mix. Krieg with a command squad and auto-cover can get disgustingly tough, IMO. What are folks' thoughts on how to make a meme list like this tough? Casual Heresy, INKS and DemonGSides 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Since you’re looking to add infantry and have quite a mobile but fragile list, you probably want either 2x20 man krieg squads with double medipacks to help hold down the midfield/act as the anvil to your cav hammer, or go all in on rapid advances with some catachan squads scouting (they’re practically running as fast as horses initially!!) bringing along Gaunt’s Ghosts or a couple of deep striking scions to grab secondaries would really help too, and couple of the new Artillery with the siege cannon would be useful as well against both tanks and Meq/Geq. basically you’d be playing 40k Brettonians Casual Heresy and librisrouge 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, UtariOnzo said: basically you’d be playing 40k Brettonians Casual Heresy, DemonGSides and Plaguecaster 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I think Gaunts are an easy add. I think field guns are a fun idea too, akin to old armies where the horses brought forth batteries of artillery; so maybe FOB's as a fun side theme, and then maybe some of the new Field Artillery. That plus a bunch of "Hold the line" infantry is a nice throw back to old style warfare. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 How about some Sentinels? They'd bring mobile heavy guns to supplement your riders. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 some troops, some tanks, think you are good to go. give your opponent something to shoot at that isn't a horse. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Some Leman Russ Exterminators for the AP bonus and some Vanquishers for keeping up with the horses backed up by some infantry and heavy weapon squads to take advantage of the exterminators. librisrouge and INKS 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Forgive me, but I slapped together a list to see how an all cavalry list would look. Granted it's using current points, so might have to change up a few things. Lord Solar - Cavalry commander. Could be swapped for the new Krieg commander 4x 10 cadians - mainly for sticky objectives. 3x 10 Rough Riders 3x10 Death Riders 3x2 Armoured Sentinels 3x2 Scout Sentinels currently sitting at 1910 points, but again will likely change with the new codex. If Legends is your cup of tea/coffee/caffeinated beverage, then you could also run a few Tauros and Venators in place of Sentinels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 44 minutes ago, Cpt_Reaper said: Forgive me, but I slapped together a list to see how an all cavalry list would look. Granted it's using current points, so might have to change up a few things. Lord Solar - Cavalry commander. Could be swapped for the new Krieg commander 4x 10 cadians - mainly for sticky objectives. 3x 10 Rough Riders 3x10 Death Riders 3x2 Armoured Sentinels 3x2 Scout Sentinels currently sitting at 1910 points, but again will likely change with the new codex. If Legends is your cup of tea/coffee/caffeinated beverage, then you could also run a few Tauros and Venators in place of Sentinels Drop one unit of Cadians and take Drier. He at least makes one of your death rider squads REAL nasty. It'd also look cool him and solar charging into a line together leading two units. Cinema! librisrouge and INKS 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I would 100% take Drier, You don't really want Solar out there charging things. I know that is kinda your theme but let him lead from his horse from the back, that is what he is good for. Drier though... yeah he's a fighter. Adding him to Death Riders almost makes the unit worth it. Rough riders x10 are still kinda better or at least close and not even when you consider the point spread difference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Hats off to you if you take 30 deathriders after the points increase, they look like trash now Rough riders on the other hand, look decent with the reductions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 It's tough because death riders are slightly better into softer targets, like ork boys or gaunts. But worse into tougher targets like marines or tanks etc. To compound the problem, Rough riders are cheaper... so the points really don't make sense. It doesn't really make sense to have 2 identical units and then for one of those units - the worse of the two - cost more. I think Drier is a little over costed as well but not terribly so. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385070-all-cavalry-list-theory-posting/#findComment-6087578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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