Downloads Whole bunch of downloads updated- Jan 15th

[Indy Techwisp]

A whole bunch of Downloads have been updated today including:

 

The Balance Dataslate Document.

The Errata for Grotmas Detachments.

The Munitorum Field Manual.

 

I've not had the time to fully look through all the changes yet, however.

[The Yak]

I looked through the different games systems and noticed Warhammer Old World had some updated on the 13th. Maybe they will refresh all throughout this week? 

 

I'm hoping they add something to the Adeptus Titanicus section to clarify how to fully integrate the new Dark Mechanicum Stalker constructs. Fingers crossed.

[DemonGSides]

Grotsmas FAQ and errata, and then the Astra Militarum MFM and FAQ as well. 

[HeadlessCross]

Here's two posts on the competitive Subreddit that sum it up:

Grotmas Detachments:

 

Solar Spearhead fall back and shoot enhancement is now used in the command phase.

 

Haloscreed can now only select Ad Mech units for the detachment rule (RIP advance and charge Canis Rex).

 

Iconoclast Fiefdom's rules now specify friendly damned models.

 

Deathwatch Handflamers are now pistols, and Fortis Chainswords now have a 3+ WS. Additionally, unit restrictions on things like scouts and devastators are now a part of Codex Marines' sub chapter rules for running Deathwatch.

 

Starshatter Arsenal has been nerfed. Both Merciless Reclamation and Unyielding Forms now cost 2 CP, their fall back and shoot enhancement is now activated in the command phase, and Reactive Reposition gives a D6" normal move, regardless of unit type.

 

Hexwarp Thrallband's Empowered Manifestation now says you "can" increase the psychic power's range by 6" (presumably to avoid screwing over the 18" lone op on Sorcerers?"

 

Other FAQs for Daemons, Space Wolves, T'au, and Astra Militarum are in the reply below.

 

Edit: The Balance Dataslate was also updated. The changes listed are the following, for Chaos Daemons, Dark Angels, and T'au:

 

Chaos Daemons: Delete the restrictions section of "Denizens of the Warp". This change allows them to charge on the stratagem's 6" deep strike

 

Dark Angels: Mounted Strategist is correct to allow the bearer to re-roll advance and charge rolls, and the Black Knight Command Squad has the new combat weapon profile found on regular Black Knights.

 

T'au: Retaliation Cadre now gets the AP boost when within 9" of a target, as

opposed to within 6".

 

Chaos Daemons: Explicitly states that Greater Daemons 6" shadow in the warp aura doesn't let them always 6" deepstrike in the Warp Rift detachment.

 

Space Wolves: Venerable Dreadnoughts' missile launchers now have the correct damage on Frag and Krak weapons (1 and D6 respectively, they were swapped before).

 

Both Index and Codex points are available for guard, the former for competitive matches, the latter for casual games until the standard release of the codex.

 

T'au: Ethereals are now a part of the Greater Good. Please debate whether this change is loreful or not.

 

Astra Militarum: A few day one changes.

 

Siege Regiment's creeping barrage only affects charge rolls, not advance rolls.

 

Recon Element now specifies that the armour save improvement for having cover from terrain applies model to model.

 

Both Tempestus command squad and scions regained Deepstrike, and the Tempestus Command Squad lost the REGIMENT keyword.

 

Death Korps of Krieg regained a mssing boltgun weapon option for the Watchmaster.

 

Kaskrin pistols are now BS 3+. Same for Tempestus Scion's plasma pistols, and Aquillon bolt pistols.

 

Aquillons regained the ability to shoot with its sentry upon deep strike.

 

'Ogryn Bodyguard' gained the CHARACTER keyword.

 

Krieg Heavy Weapons laspistols now have a 12" range, and their Final Duty ability only works when the Fire Coordinator model is on the battlefield.

 

Basillisks now only subtract 2 from charge rolls, just like the Siege Detachment rule.

 

Two FAQs, one just clarifying that the Siege Regiment's player chooses which units are rolled for in an order of their choice, and that Ogryn can't fly (Ogryn bodyguards don't gain deep strike from joining a Tempestus Command Squad).

 

 

Can't say I'm a fan of removing the 48" range Laspistol. I'd have loved to watch that kill a model. 

[MechaMan]

Unless I'm mistaken Guard Forge World options have been absolutely obliterated. Gone from 29 options to two. Real shame. 

[Indy Techwisp]

Just now, MechaMan said:

Unless I'm mistaken Guard Forge World options have been absolutely obliterated. Gone from 29 options to two. Real shame. 

 

Yes, 27 Forgeworld options have been removed according to the MFM.

 

That said, can we please not have this thread also devolve into a tide "GW Bad" posts like the Kreig thread is already becoming?

[DemonGSides]

47 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

Yes, 27 Forgeworld options have been removed according to the MFM.

 

That said, can we please not have this thread also devolve into a tide "GW Bad" posts like the Kreig thread is already becoming?

 

It's to be expected when people just buzz by the boards/hobby and don't understand the Legends situation.

 

Those forgeworld tanks were all banned in tournaments already. The only difference between yesterday and today for FW tank stuff is that now it's not gonna be in the app once they update it when the codex releases. Which is insanely stupid but doesn't stop you from playing the tanks, just means that you've gotta do your list building outside of the 40k app, which I think is how most people probably do it anyways. 

[Indy Techwisp]

On another note, I'm surprised that there wasn't an article to go along with any of this.

[MechaMan]

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

 

It's to be expected when people just buzz by the boards/hobby and don't understand the Legends situation.

 

Those forgeworld tanks were all banned in tournaments already. The only difference between yesterday and today for FW tank stuff is that now it's not gonna be in the app once they update it when the codex releases. Which is insanely stupid but doesn't stop you from playing the tanks, just means that you've gotta do your list building outside of the 40k app, which I think is how most people probably do it anyways. 

Ah my mistake, I thought GW had clearly stated here* that the Forge World units with Imperial Armour datasheets found in the Munitorum Field Manual could be used in tournaments?

 

I also could have sworn I've seen retired units like the Death Korps Marshal on tournament winning lists. 

 

*"The Imperial Armour datasheets comprise many units found on the Forge World webstore, and unlike Warhammer Legends, these forces are all sanctioned for use in official tournament games. Points for these units are available in the Munitorum Field Manual." 

 

Edit: I also remember Mordian Glory taking a list with some Malcodor tanks, although I was expecting them to go given they're heresy now.

Edited 50 minutes ago by MechaMan

[Dark Legionnare]

20 minutes ago, MechaMan said:

Ah my mistake, I thought GW had clearly stated here* that the Forge World units with Imperial Armour datasheets found in the Munitorum Field Manual could be used in tournaments?

 

I also could have sworn I've seen retired units like the Death Korps Marshal on tournament winning lists. 

 

*"The Imperial Armour datasheets comprise many units found on the Forge World webstore, and unlike Warhammer Legends, these forces are all sanctioned for use in official tournament games. Points for these units are available in the Munitorum Field Manual." 

You beat me to the punch. I was JUST about to say the same then scrolled down and saw yours because we had to explain the same thing last shop low-stakes tournament we did in December.

>> Other dude derides others for "not taking the time to understand the situation at hand" -> *Does that exact thing* (In a very ironic fashion) 

I was just saying a few hours ago "At least I can still bring my macharius instead of a Dorn".  Which, of course, I still can even with this stuff, but it's still annoying they either forgot-and-will-rectify the IA stuff, or they decided "Time to squat/legends in earnest."

The big brick will still sow havoc regardless!

Edited 33 minutes ago by Dark Legionnare