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*Insert thunderwolf slander here*

 

While they're 100% gonna be a tacticus clad squad, this is one of the cases where I would prefer phobos, if just for the idea of lowering the burden for the poor overworked puppies.

TWC are like are being a Furry, the people who like TWC really really like TWC, the people that dont like them etc etc

 

GW really like money

 

If they did a TWC character kit that made Harald/Canis/WL/WGBL (and moonshot of Wolf Priest) they would sell so freaking many, it wouldnt even need that many weapon or head options

Hyped for this, Hopefully all the current SW characters get a Primaris Update, while that Ulric Model is nice the scale is not.  As for TW i loved the idea of them just not the scale.

 

Space Wolves have always had Wolves.  That's what makes them Space wolves all the way back from 2nd Ed with the original Leman Russ model with Wolves.  The 3rd/4th editions where you could take wolves with your HQ as extra wounds.  The Viking thing came after and was leaned into more with the HH stuff.  

 

More wolves in wolf armour wielding wolf weapons whilst riding giant wolves.  

 

Yes the sleigh was dumb and we dont need that

I do have to support Tyler’s statement, in manage your expectations. 
 

Space wolves has the biggest unique roster out of any divergent chapter and the most datasheets, the purge is going to hurt, a lot.
Mass resin models thrown into legends.

Also according to rumours the big ol’ sleigh and wolf riding cavalry may go the way of the Dodo too.

 

However to create first you must destroy, so I’m definitely sure we’ll see some new 6 man unit elites coming for SW that we’ve seen for every Astartes refresh to date even in chaos, and some new terminators for SW since that seems to be the flavour of this edition, and there’s that new art teaser of Bjorn so there’s a lot of speculation if he’s coming with a new model too (Redemptor chassis Bjorn maybe?) 

 

I think everyone should ultimately prepare themselves however for a massive datasheet purge, bigger then what we saw with DA and BA.

Edited by Alternis
1 hour ago, Alternis said:

I do have to support Tyler’s statement, in manage your expectations. 
 

Space wolves has the biggest unique roster out of any divergent chapter and the most datasheets, the purge is going to hurt, a lot.
Mass resin models thrown into legends.

Also according to rumours the big ol’ sleigh and wolf riding cavalry may go the way of the Dodo too.

 

However to create first you must destroy, so I’m definitely sure we’ll see some new 6 man unit elites coming for SW that we’ve seen for every Astartes refresh to date even in chaos, and some new terminators for SW since that seems to be the flavour of this edition, and there’s that new art teaser of Bjorn so there’s a lot of speculation if he’s coming with a new model too (Redemptor chassis Bjorn maybe?) 

 

I think everyone should ultimately prepare themselves however for a massive datasheet purge, bigger then what we saw with DA and BA.

The rumors of a unit that includes wolves more like attack dogs makes way more sense.

1 hour ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

The rumors of a unit that includes wolves more like attack dogs makes way more sense.

Well that’s essentially the case with the rumoured 6 man elite unit, coming with wolves on the bases. 
 

also if the new art is anything to go by, there are indeed still wolves on Fenris

They should kill off Bjorn. Have his Death tie in with Leman's return. Remove him to legends then when Leman returns at the end of the edition next year give him a truly noble and heroic end so his death in the catalyst for Russ' return. 

 

They really need to learn it's okay to kill off characters. Grimnar should have been gone and replaced by Ragnar two editions ago. 

 

Grimnar is just going to be Leman Lite when the big guy himself comes back anyway.

27 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

Grimnar is just going to be Leman Lite when the big guy himself comes back anyway.

 

Calgar and Azrael still see a lot of use despite the return of their respective Primarchs.

  

7 hours ago, Alternis said:

I think everyone should ultimately prepare themselves however for a massive datasheet purge, bigger then what we saw with DA and BA.

 

I hope you are wrong but fear you are right.

1 hour ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

They should kill off Bjorn. Have his Death tie in with Leman's return. Remove him to legends then when Leman returns at the end of the edition next year give him a truly noble and heroic end so his death in the catalyst for Russ' return. 

 

They really need to learn it's okay to kill off characters. Grimnar should have been gone and replaced by Ragnar two editions ago. 

 

Grimnar is just going to be Leman Lite when the big guy himself comes back anyway.


Nah, you gotta keep Bjorn. I want to see the conversation between him and Russ when he comes back.

 

Bjorn: Hey

Russ: Hey

Bjorn: Where the hell have you been?

Russ: Killing :cuss: in the warp for ten millennia. You?

Bjorn: Killing :cuss: in real space for ten millennia. While stuck in a box. Oh, and sleeping. Yeah, I do a lot of that. Hate this box. 
Russ: Brother, you just gotta think outside of it sometimes.

Bjorn: :mad:

Slightly more to the rulebook than the models, but what's folks vibes towards what we will see from Successors?

 

It doesn't escape my notice that the DA and BA in latest codexes have, despite outliers, have gotten increasingly less subtle about bloodline-cohesion to the point where I think the BT might be mildly offended that they aren't unique for ignoring the codex (GMan being too entombed in paperwork to pretend to care). Really curious to see how many chapters they add and how synched they are.

 

One noteworthy thing from Valrak as well is that I think he mentioned that the new models skew much more 'viking'. Which bodes really well given their recent 30k models (although those seemed to be rocking more Sutton Hoo look than necessarily viking imo).

 

Anyone want to put bets on the Termi unit sizes btw? I am very curious if they are getting locked to five or maybe even go down to 3 man. 

 

I am also very curious about the idea of Wolves on the base, eyeing my Inner Circle atm and I am not sure how you'd place another model onto it without them being borderline-silly levels of tight. I wonder if they might even go up a base size to accommodate them?

 

Edited by StrangerOrders
On 1/18/2025 at 6:40 AM, Gorechilde said:

 

I personally would like to see him as a one-eyed Odin-like character. 

 

It would be cool, but it also wouldn't be surprising.

And the Lion already exists as the older brother type Primarch in appearance.

 

I would prefer they took another direction - with mutated wolf Russ. They probably wouldn't do this, but it would be more memorable and offer something different from the existing, regal Primarchs. Also the lore implications would be more interesting.

43 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

 

It would be cool, but it also wouldn't be surprising.

And the Lion already exists as the older brother type Primarch in appearance.

 

I would prefer they took another direction - with mutated wolf Russ. They probably wouldn't do this, but it would be more memorable and offer something different from the existing, regal Primarchs. Also the lore implications would be more interesting.

Given how they've apparently pivoted to more of a viking theme (might have something to do with the reaction to those wolfy mcwolf HH heads) i doubt they'd go wolfy mcwolf on leman. They'll either do Odin Russ or...there is another possibility, that of a straight glow up of his original RT era figure.

So judging by the rate they release things ,if they release emperors children during february,, all the chaos during march- april  and all the loyalists ( grey knights, templars, knights and spacemarines 2.0 during May-June) we may see wolves August -September the earliest :)

So given the warcom article for the eldar pre order specifically talks about the eldar end times, it seems reasonable that they have no issue doing the same for the wolves and bringing Russ.

 

I don't see this happening for a while though, the release map has 6 marine factions on it, it would be very odd if they didn't have a break for some xenos after that. At best I'd say we are the very end of this year if not this time next year.

 

Fortunately valrak has already confirmed grey hunters, blood claws, wolf guard and terminators all coming with new kits so that is a decent portion of our unique units already safe

5 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

 

It would be cool, but it also wouldn't be surprising.

And the Lion already exists as the older brother type Primarch in appearance.

 

I would prefer they took another direction - with mutated wolf Russ. They probably wouldn't do this, but it would be more memorable and offer something different from the existing, regal Primarchs. Also the lore implications would be more interesting.

On so many levels I hope this never happens, would rather go without the Primarch than have an extra goofy turbo wulfen running around. Also, doing that would be very divisive, in a faction which already seems to prompt division in a number od ways.

I think Russ needs to come back looking feral as hell. Huge wolf pelt, battle damage, all manner of trophies from daemon skulls to traitor marine helmets etc. Make him look like he’s actually been fighting chaos for thousands of years without anywhere to resupply. Big fangs, scars, much more shaggy locks. Not mutated or werewolf but looking like he could explode into one at any moment. Needs to evoke a serious sense of badassery. Dirty and brutal, the opposite of the Lion or Guilliman.

 

… and the Spear of Russ. Has to have the spear or they’ve kept it all this time for nothing. 

Edited by TheArtilleryman
27 minutes ago, Marshall Bretton said:

So given the warcom article for the eldar pre order specifically talks about the eldar end times, it seems reasonable that they have no issue doing the same for the wolves and bringing Russ.

 

I don't see this happening for a while though, the release map has 6 marine factions on it, it would be very odd if they didn't have a break for some xenos after that. At best I'd say we are the very end of this year if not this time next year.

 

Fortunately valrak has already confirmed grey hunters, blood claws, wolf guard and terminators all coming with new kits so that is a decent portion of our unique units already safe

Valrak's sources pointed towards end of the year, so could be looking at October/November time.

29 minutes ago, TheArtilleryman said:

I think Russ needs to come back looking feral as hell. Huge wolf pelt, battle damage, all manner of trophies from daemon skulls to traitor marine helmets etc. Make him look like he’s actually been fighting chaos for thousands of years without anywhere to resupply. Big fangs, scars, much more shaggy locks. Not mutated or werewolf but looking like he could explode into one at any moment. Needs to evoke a serious sense of badassery. Dirty and brutal, the opposite of the Lion or Guilliman.

 

… and the Spear of Russ. Has to have the spear or they’ve kept it all this time for nothing. 

 

This could work. Just something to really distinguish him!

 

I agree he should have the spear also.

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