Warhammer on BBC News

[Cactus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr5369029dzo

 

Nothing groundbreaking here, it's a fairly general piece about GW entering the FTSE100 and licensing potential.

[MechaMan]

I sometimes wonder how much I’d have if I’d spent my money on Games Workshop shares instead of Warhammer models. 

[Beef]

22 minutes ago, MechaMan said:

I sometimes wonder how much I’d have if I’d spent my money on Games Workshop shares instead of Warhammer models. 

Especially since i have been a customer since 2nd edition and at some point early on their stocks were cheap

[LameBeard]

There’s an episode of ‘Sex and the City’ where Carrie wonders why she can’t afford the deposit for her own flat, then adds up everything she’s spent on shoes…

 

The models were more fun though, right?

[Scribe]

4 hours ago, MechaMan said:

I sometimes wonder how much I’d have if I’d spent my money on Games Workshop shares instead of Warhammer models. 

 

Only madness awaits at the end of that road Brother.

 

(Been there, did the math, not pretty!)

[No Foes Remain]

4 hours ago, MechaMan said:

I sometimes wonder how much I’d have if I’d spent my money on Games Workshop shares instead of Warhammer models. 

There was that lull were they weren't worth more than £1, I very much regret not buying loads then.

[Dark Shepherd]

8 hours ago, MechaMan said:

I sometimes wonder how much I’d have if I’d spent my money on Games Workshop shares instead of Warhammer models. 

Youd have a big pile of unpainted shares

[Xenith]

On 1/19/2025 at 1:20 PM, Beef said:

Especially since i have been a customer since 2nd edition and at some point early on their stocks were cheap

 

If you'd bought £1000 worth of shares in 2000 when they were ~£3 each, they would be worth £46,475 today, before we even get to dividend returns. 

[Emperor Ming]

30 minutes ago, Xenith said:

 

If you'd bought £1000 worth of shares in 2000 when they were ~£3 each, they would be worth £46,475 today, before we even get to dividend returns. 

[Domhnall]

1 hour ago, Xenith said:

 

If you'd bought £1000 worth of shares in 2000 when they were ~£3 each, they would be worth £46,475 today, before we even get to dividend returns. 

Pfft. If I had put all the money I spent on 40k since 2000, I'd have at least 5 times that  
Seriously though, that is quite a jump in price and anybody who had the foresight to buy any needs to get a knock on the door for any signs of Tzeentch corrruption! 

[Xenith]

Yea, there was absolutely zero signs of potential from 2003 to 2014/5 or so, unless you studied the inner workings like @N1SB you would not have known.

 

You could still get shares for £3 a pop in 2009, and even £4.75 in 2016 right before they went stratospheric! 

[01RTB01]

On 1/19/2025 at 6:20 AM, Beef said:

Especially since i have been a customer since 2nd edition and at some point early on their stocks were cheap

 

I was working for GW back in 2000 and it was before the LOTR license was announced. I said to my parents then they should get shares. I was ignored for a change lol

[Xenith]

2 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

I was working for GW back in 2000 and it was before the LOTR license was announced. I said to my parents then they should get shares. I was ignored for a change lol

 

Haha, not quite working for GW but knew about LoTR and black crusade - the usual response of 'it's a fad and will never take off'. 

[MechaMan]

12 hours ago, Xenith said:

 

If you'd bought £1000 worth of shares in 2000 when they were ~£3 each, they would be worth £46,475 today, before we even get to dividend returns. 

Why is there no ‘break into remorseful tears’ reaction?

[Wispy]

mostly just thinking out loud here, but with warhammer seemingly entering mainstream relic should try to get funding for a DOWIV now that they've gone independent. or to do a remaster or remake of DOW1 to get the ball rolling. 

 

before someone else beats them to it, anyways. 

[MechaMan]

19 minutes ago, Wispy said:

mostly just thinking out loud here, but with warhammer seemingly entering mainstream relic should try to get funding for a DOWIV now that they've gone independent. or to do a remaster or remake of DOW1 to get the ball rolling. 

 

before someone else beats them to it, anyways. 

Dawn of War is owned by GW and used under license. I don't know whether the licensee was Sega or Relic? Either way it would be up to GW if another DOW was made, doubt they could make one of their own volition.

 

If there's any truth to Creative Assembly (a Sega company) making Total War: Warhammer 40,000 rumour then the chances of a new a DOW to me seem close to none. 

[Wispy]

1 hour ago, MechaMan said:

Dawn of War is owned by GW and used under license. I don't know whether the licensee was Sega or Relic? Either way it would be up to GW if another DOW was made, doubt they could make one of their own volition.

 

If there's any truth to Creative Assembly (a Sega company) making Total War: Warhammer 40,000 rumour then the chances of a new a DOW to me seem close to none. 

So, like, i worked at Relic for like 11 years lol. DoW3 flopping ended my time there, but here's what i know:

• There was chatter about CA wanting to do TW: 40k in my last days there, so I 100% believe the rumors.
• Relic PROBABLY owns the back catalogue for DOW (I think back catalogue is the only thing helping them survive independently right now. Certainty they are the only people capable of maintaining it, especially the live services for it).
• GW owns the DOW IP and they could take it to a different developer like they did for Space Marine 2
• The one reason Relic could out compete GW taking the IP to a different developer is because there's no off-the-shelf RTS engine like there is for shooters (SM2 was made in Unreal engine). RTS requires a ton of custom tech. Well, Relic has a propriety RTS engine and tools that already does all the DOW gameplay things. They also have an asset catalogue for relevant models and animations that are still useable.
  • It's entirely possible GW did take it to a different developer to make and it's in progress all ready... I'm side eying the Realm of Ruins people, who already made a facsimile of DOW2 with that Age of Sigmar game. That game bombed but they have a leg up on most shops. 

Relic still has to want to make it. Studio leadership ran scared of the Warhammer IP after DOW3's flop, so they'd need to get over that. Someone just needs to want to pay for it, and well, no one in this :cuss:ing industry wants to pay for anything right now. So, yeah, hoping Warhammer entering mainstream changes peoples mind about these two things.

 

 

[Wispy]

13 hours ago, Xenith said:

 

Haha, not quite working for GW but knew about LoTR and black crusade - the usual response of 'it's a fad and will never take off'. 

eh, the LoTR bubble did burst on them, so unless you sold right away that's probably a loss. 

[ZeroWolf]

I'd only take another DoW if it was closer to the first than the other two. Lost so many hours to the original game and all the expansions. I loved the base building aspect

[Wispy]

15 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

I'd only take another DoW if it was closer to the first than the other two. Lost so many hours to the original game and all the expansions. I loved the base building aspect

that's why i say start out with a remake or remaster before doing a sequel! 

[ZeroWolf]

Oh in that case, I'd definitely be down for it. I also think that DoW and a proposed TW:W40k could live side by side by virtue of having different scopes as DoW feels more zoomed in compared to what TW might give us

[Halandaar]

3 hours ago, Wispy said:

 

• It's entirely possible GW did take it to a different developer to make and it's in progress all ready... I'm side eying the Realm of Ruins people, who already made a facsimile of DOW2 with that Age of Sigmar game. That game bombed but they have a leg up on most shops. 

 

This is Frontier which is down the road from me. Realms of Ruin was such a disappointment in terms of sales that they announced shortly afterwards they were revising performance targets down and ditching efforts to diversify the kinds of games they put out, going back to focusing on their Planet Coaster / Zoo and Jurassic World sim/management games. Can't see them taking the risk on another Warhammer game.