SW unique combo after the oath "nerf"

[TiguriusX]

Rough time to be a special codex marine.  We did NOT get the oath +1 benefit because GW wants to encourage people to use the generic marines.

 

I have no problem with that...but the ultramarines also get the oath +1 so the meta quickly shifted to all UM all the time b/c they have RG and he can do 2 oaths a turn.  Too much value for the ultra competitive players to pass up.  I am also in that camp for my team events b/c I don't want to handicap my team.

 

However...in my solo events I still experiment with SW and recently some SW librarius ideas are showing promise.

 

I wanted to share in case anyone else is interested...it is a SW only option and you get to play terminators again!!!

 

The combo just delivers pure dev wounds and doesn't care about the oath + 1 not being available

 

Librarius conclave detachment

Librarian in terminator armor + fusillade enhancement

10 Wolf guard terminators with 8xcombi-weapons and 2xassault cannons

I give the combi guys SS so I have 4 wounds to stay alive longer...I have seen other players go PF for melee

 

Here is how it works

-Librarian gives sustain hits to ranged weapons

-Fusillade enhancement gives anti monster/vehicle 5+ to ranged weapons

Every ranged weapon in the terminator brick has DEV wounds to take advantage of the anti keyword

 

In addition...there is a 1 CP stratagem called ASSAIL to basically get grenade MW out to range 18 on 3+ (must be in telekinesis mode...which also makes your rapid fire range bigger and helps defend incoming fire after your drop the alpha strike)

 

Now that the gladius fire discipline combo is gone this appears to be the best terminator combo we can drop...but wait...there is more!

 

Librarius conclave ALSO has an enhancement to give advance + charge...so you can bring melee oriented terminators in addition to the dev wound shooting terminators

 

Just slap the CELERITY enhancement on another brick of Wolf Guard terminators with a librarian and you have a mobile melee threat....during the biomancy mode you also get +2 movement and the IRON ARM stratagem can give you S+2 buff

So you have base move 7" with advance and charge and S10 PF/THs with the brick in biomancy mode

 

This is not S tier but it is fun to play and has some punch behind it...mostly I am enjoying using terminators again

 

I know this is not a fun time to be a SW but maybe you have your own terminators collecting dust and this will let you take them out for a spin and just have some fun

 

 

[Grimtooth]

This does sound fun. 
 

Basically runenpriests and WG going ham. 

[Kassill]

On 1/23/2025 at 10:05 PM, TiguriusX said:

 

 

I know this is not a fun time to be a SW but maybe you have your own terminators collecting dust and this will let you take them out for a spin and just have some fun

 

 

 

Idk, I'm pretty excited about the Champions of Russ list I'm building up for next month. We are in a healthy 49% wr which is within the margin of balance GW shoots for. Some weekends we do a little better and scrape up to 53%. And we have a spread of detachments to chose your flavor of Wolves, now that Stormlance had it's claws filed down a bit we are seeing the improved Champions of Russ hitting the table more as well as Gladius and Ironstorm occasionally. And the ones who played Stormlance the longest still find reasonable success.  

 

Librarius is neat. I think Fussilade combo is better with Sternguard for fishing for devs with full wound rerolls on oath targets. I do like the biomancy combo you have with WGTDA, but if your goal is just putting more terminators on board then go for it, have fun. 

It's a shame our grotmas detachment is such a dud... 
 

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

Yeah I have been trying to get milage out of the Grotmas one as it looked so fun and I just can't get a list with enough staying Power because the pieces are so pricy points wise.