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On 1/30/2025 at 12:09 AM, NKirkham24 said:

I just watched the trailer and thought it was great, I wasn’t worried about trumpeting firstborn or no primaris.

 

just enjoy the space marines in action guys!

 

Really enjoying the deathwatch love too

Uhm the repulsor smushes everything it floats over. It basically punches the ground to stay aloft

27 minutes ago, Mmmmm Napalm said:

It'd be neat if they released a commemorative Retributors model to tie into this at some point. Perhaps that could be the WH+ subscriber miniature for 2026.

It should be, but sadly probably won't or if they do...it won't be what people are expecting. This is GW we're dealing with.

Having watched the trailer for the umpteenth time, I only now noticed that the predators don't have sponsors. As some one who loves the Predator/Rhino design but hates the sponsons, it really is nice to see official stuff that doesnt include them too.

1 hour ago, System Sound said:

Having watched the trailer for the umpteenth time, I only now noticed that the predators don't have sponsors. As some one who loves the Predator/Rhino design but hates the sponsons, it really is nice to see official stuff that doesnt include them too.

Yeah, just looks a lot cleaner. I wish that was still a option in both 40k and 30k, Sicarans too.

 

1 hour ago, Orange Knight said:

 

The Repulsor doesn't have sponsons :laugh:

 

Instead it has a ridiculous number of little weapons mounted all over it, to the point were it looks like its been thrown in a bits box full of weapons and ammo boxes :laugh:

1 hour ago, Robbienw said:

 

 

Instead it has a ridiculous number of little weapons mounted all over it, to the point were it looks like its been thrown in a bits box full of weapons and ammo boxes :laugh:

They’re appealing to the American audience.

12 minutes ago, Iron Father Ferrum said:

As an American, I've never met any 40K player who liked the aesthetic choice of "slap another gun barrel or grenade pack on the Repulsor."  It looks utterly ridiculous.

 

The joke is that we love guns. Do not think it was a comment on the aesthetics of that particular tank. Just a joke about 'Merica.

 

As a Texan (which is like 'Merica++), we DO love guns. I chuckled. The tank is goofy though. :laugh:

32 minutes ago, Iron Father Ferrum said:

As an American, I've never met any 40K player who liked the aesthetic choice of "slap another gun barrel or grenade pack on the Repulsor."  It looks utterly ridiculous.

 

GW: *Repulsor*

Meanwhile on Valhalla: 'Remember Comrade, No Sponsons.'

 

WWII-experimental-secret-weapon-Russian-

On 2/3/2025 at 12:57 PM, Orange Knight said:

 

The Repulsor doesn't have sponsons :laugh:

 

every new vehicle introduced in the primaris age looks like something a 9 year old would draw. 

 

As previously argued by Scribe I believe; The general art direction of the new stuff is just atrocious.

 

You are going to have to just live with the fact the creator of Astartes seems to prefer the older generation, buddy ;)

 

 

 

 

On 2/3/2025 at 11:13 AM, Iron Father Ferrum said:

As an American, I've never met any 40K player who liked the aesthetic choice of "slap another gun barrel or grenade pack on the Repulsor."  It looks utterly ridiculous.

Tell that to the WWII USN.

On 2/3/2025 at 11:28 AM, phandaal said:

 

The joke is that we love guns. Do not think it was a comment on the aesthetics of that particular tank. Just a joke about 'Merica.

 

As a Texan (which is like 'Merica++), we DO love guns. I chuckled. The tank is goofy though. :laugh:

In WWII the navy added so many new AA guns to some ships there was legitimate concern about their stability 

31 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

In WWII the navy added so many new AA guns to some ships there was legitimate concern about their stability 

 

That is the most American thing I have heard all day! This must be how the Mechanicus feel whenever they work on a Bolter. Blessed firepower, explosive be thy payload, forever and ever, Ka-boom.

Finally got round to watching it. That was delightful. 

 

I think my favourite snippits are:

1: The Orks, that's gotta be one of my favourite Ork depictions ever. Instantly recognizable as 40K Orks but more than a little terrifying.

2: The Predator, nice to finally have an image in my mind's eye of the rate of fire of the Predator's autocannon.

3: The Emperor Forgets. That's immeasurably sinister and I'm all for it.

4 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

Finally got round to watching it. That was delightful. 

 

I think my favourite snippits are:

1: The Orks, that's gotta be one of my favourite Ork depictions ever. Instantly recognizable as 40K Orks but more than a little terrifying.

2: The Predator, nice to finally have an image in my mind's eye of the rate of fire of the Predator's autocannon.

3: The Emperor Forgets. That's immeasurably sinister and I'm all for it.

For autocannons I always assumed they had an RPM between 90-100 rpm depending on which type, maybe as high as 120 for the suppressors.

 

aside from dedicated AAA, most autocannons fall into that range.

The over-gunned space marine vehicles started before the Repulsor. The Storrmraven and Stormtalon both look somewhat ridiculous compared to the Forge World fliers they will inevitably outlive. Sure, we can stick another lascannon barrel there! Who cares where the rest of the gun goes, as long as the barrel sticks out people know the gun is there! Centurions are over-gunned to the point that they have armpit missiles! Firstborn are not blameless in this.

 

That aside, it's going to be a long wait for this to be released. I'm eager to see what they do with it.

3 hours ago, Magos Takatus said:

The over-gunned space marine vehicles started before the Repulsor. The Storrmraven and Stormtalon both look somewhat ridiculous compared to the Forge World fliers they will inevitably outlive. Sure, we can stick another lascannon barrel there! Who cares where the rest of the gun goes, as long as the barrel sticks out people know the gun is there! Centurions are over-gunned to the point that they have armpit missiles! Firstborn are not blameless in this.

 

That aside, it's going to be a long wait for this to be released. I'm eager to see what they do with it.

Stormraven is just a land raider with wings. It’s about as heavily armed as it’s terrestrial cousins.

14 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Stormraven is just a land raider with wings. It’s about as heavily armed as it’s terrestrial cousins.

Which in my opinion is a bit silly. It's more heavily armed and armoured than many tanks and it can fly. It's got tiny engines, yet it can carry all that armour and guns and still tow a Dreadnought. It just feels like nonsensical power creep to me.

 

Prior to the Stormraven heavily armed gunship aircraft were either large (like the Thunderhawk), or had to sacrifice survivability. The Stormraven got to have it's cake and eat it. It also looks like a model designed to sit on a flight stand rather than actually offer fire support to ground troops. It's turret aims forward and  upward more than downward and it's sponsons aim directly into the thrusters in front of them, giving them poor fields of fire. Add to that its chibi proportions and I steer well clear of it. Sticking wings on a Land Raider might have looked more convincing.

44 minutes ago, Magos Takatus said:

Which in my opinion is a bit silly. It's more heavily armed and armoured than many tanks and it can fly. It's got tiny engines, yet it can carry all that armour and guns and still tow a Dreadnought. It just feels like nonsensical power creep to me.

 

Prior to the Stormraven heavily armed gunship aircraft were either large (like the Thunderhawk), or had to sacrifice survivability. The Stormraven got to have it's cake and eat it. It also looks like a model designed to sit on a flight stand rather than actually offer fire support to ground troops. It's turret aims forward and  upward more than downward and it's sponsons aim directly into the thrusters in front of them, giving them poor fields of fire. Add to that its chibi proportions and I steer well clear of it. Sticking wings on a Land Raider might have looked more convincing.

It’s T is only 10, and has 14W vs a gladiator’s 12

a raider is T12 16W, and also it’s only 1 toughness and 1 wound tankier than an impulsor.

 

as for armament, lots of aircraft these days are more heavily armed than tanks.

AC130s are way more heavily armed than any modern tank, and most tanks of the past.

A10 warthog, more heavily armed than tanks, heavily armored, and small engines.

 

as for engine size, they have lift thrusters as well as the engines for horizontal flight, but engine size doesn’t mean much, what matters is how the engines work. A modern V6 engine is likely more powerful than the steam engines on the USS monitor despite being much smaller.

Edited by Inquisitor_Lensoven

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