Codex & Edition Roadmap, The Return of More Primarchs, My Prediction

[crimsondave]

59 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

How do you know the Emperor was able to do that to Guilliman though because of "worship"? You don't, you're guessing. He was the strongest being in the galaxy by a wide margin. It's the first time in the setting of 40k he did something like that. He even outlawed worship of him like a god while alive, why would he if it made him stronger? I'm not sure how you can even make that connection. Pretty sure the thousand+ psykers that are sacrificed daily and the thought of losing his only loyal son after 10,000ish years was enough for him to panic and take action.

 

Care to cite your source(s) for "the direction GW seem to be heading into the lore with the Big E is that yes, worship can definitely empower you into godlike status"? Because Godblight doesn't support that. 

 

Read the End and Death books.  It is spelled out plain as day.

[Special Officer Doofy]

1 hour ago, Karhedron said:

 

Because he did not want to be a god. He wanted humanity to be able to survive on its own and complete its evolution into a psychic species rather than remain shackled to him, just as he was shackled to the Golden Throne.

 

I never said he wanted to be a god. All I was saying is there is no lore in the setting that worshipping a mortal, like a primarch, whose dead and spirit is in the warp, can somehow turn them into a god/demigod and let them assume the form of some avatar if worshipped hard enough. The Emperor was made from a bunch of psykers sacrificing themselves. The Emperor is currently alive on life support because of a bunch of psykers sacrificing themselves. His power comes from psykers, not worship.

 

Edit: and if it does come from worship, how? Could you cite the passages that specifically call out worship empowering him? Why let over 3.5+ million psykers kill themselves if worship will do the trick (spoiler tags if needed). The warp and beings created by it are powered by emotion, not worship.

Edited January 31 by Special Officer Doofy

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

8 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

I'll also point out that the direction GW seem to be heading into the lore with the Big E is that yes, worship can definitely empower you into godlike status, like with the power that Robute had when the big E possessed (and resurrected) him. Power enough to set Nurgles garden alight as a warning.

 

Of course, with new narrative leads, direction could change again (if they're going to try and sell us a narrative, then they need to own it, and release narrative related novels about every 6 months at least)

 

Dorn will be a interesting one when they choose to bring him back. They'll have to make a decision with him as Imperial Fists now play second fiddle to their own successor chapter, the Black Templars. So while their still gene-sons of Dorn, he is still the Imperial Fists primarch. How will GW square that circle? Create a rule where he can lead any Imperial Fists, Black Templar, Crimson Fists force and they all gain the Last Wall keyword allowing him to lead any of them? What colour scheme would they give him that would let him fit in?

 

If they want Dorn to stick with Imperial Fists, then they have their work cut out for them to make them a popular army to rival their successors.

How will they square the circle? Easy a <legion> key word for all chapters could just be the legion’s number, or <sons of dorn> <sons of sanguinius> etc.

this would also work for Dante as girlyman basically recreated the 9th legion under his control. Allowing Dante to be used in flesh tearers armies alongside gaberiel Seth.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

I never said he wanted to be a god. All I was saying is there is no lore in the setting that worshipping a mortal, like a primarch, whose dead and spirit is in the warp, can somehow turn them into a god/demigod and let them assume the form of some avatar if worshipped hard enough. The Emperor was made from a bunch of psykers sacrificing themselves. The Emperor is currently alive on life support because of a bunch of psykers sacrificing themselves. His power comes from psykers, not worship.

 

Edit: and if it does come from worship, how? Could you cite the passages that specifically call out worship empowering him? Why let over 3.5+ million psykers kill themselves if worship will do the trick (spoiler tags if needed). The warp and beings created by it are powered by emotion, not worship.

Why sacrifice 3.5 million psykers if it’s unnecessary? Because the people of the imperium and in charge of the imperium don’t know any better, which just furthers the tragedy of what the imperium has become.

 

the warp is powered by emotion not worship…um, have you ever talked to a true believe or fanatic of a religion and seen how they worship? It’s emotional. 
do you really need to have all of this spelled out to you or is critical thinking something you just never learned?

Edited January 31 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Special Officer Doofy]

42 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Why sacrifice 3.5 million psykers if it’s unnecessary? Because the people of the imperium and in charge of the imperium don’t know any better, which just furthers the tragedy of what the imperium has become.

 

the warp is powered by emotion not worship…um, have you ever talked to a true believe or fanatic of a religion and seen how they worship? It’s emotional. 
do you really need to have all of this spelled out to you or is critical thinking something you just never learned?

 

Pretty sure they know he needs them. "The Black Ships increased in number and frequency of their harrowing voyages. According to some records, today four times the number of psykers are sacrificed daily to maintain optimal levels of power to the Golden Throne and the Astronomican as were originally required in the days immediately after the Emperor's Ascension." They even need more as time goes on.

 

The guy that references a source that he doesn't read and said source even contradicts his statement is asking someone else if they can critically think? Nice.

[Karhedron]

2 hours ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

Edit: and if it does come from worship, how? Could you cite the passages that specifically call out worship empowering him? Why let over 3.5+ million psykers kill themselves if worship will do the trick (spoiler tags if needed). The warp and beings created by it are powered by emotion, not worship.

 

Godblight, the conversation between Guilliman and the Farseer.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

39 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

Pretty sure they know he needs them. "The Black Ships increased in number and frequency of their harrowing voyages. According to some records, today four times the number of psykers are sacrificed daily to maintain optimal levels of power to the Golden Throne and the Astronomican as were originally required in the days immediately after the Emperor's Ascension." They even need more as time goes on.

 

The guy that references a source that he doesn't read and said source even contradicts his statement is asking someone else if they can critically think? Nice.

To keep his failing body alive maybe.

[Special Officer Doofy]

8 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

Godblight, the conversation between Guilliman and the Farseer.

 

‘We are talking here not of sorcery, or what you refer to as psychic power, but of faith. Faith is the most powerful force in this galaxy. It requires no proof to convince. It grants conviction to those who believe. It brings hope to the hopeless, and where it flourishes, reality changes. A single mind connected strongly to the warp can bend the laws of our universe, but a billion minds, a trillion minds, all believing the same thing? It matters little if they are psykers or not. The influence of so many souls has a profound effect. My kind birthed a god. Perhaps now it is your turn…’

 

I'm assuming that's the passage you're referring to by the farseer. Guilliman immediately responds with:

 

‘The Emperor smashed every idol He came across. He threw down churches and temples, even the meanest shaman’s hut was burned to the ground. We were commanded to destroy every sign of religion we found. Iterators stood in the ashes of belief and spread the Imperial Truth. The Emperor would brook no cult but that of reason…. reason is a faith of its own, with its own traps and heresies. I have not fallen into worship. Lorgar’s arguments are persuasive, but are built on several fallacies for all that. The Emperor said Himself that He was no god, over and over again. You should have seen Him when He commanded me to punish Lorgar. His anger was no sham. I cannot see any situation in which He would be happy with the way the Imperium has turned out.'

 

Haley intentionally sows seeds of doubt immediately after. Because one eldar says something one time from his point of view in a book it's automatically true? I guess agree to disagree.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

40 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

Pretty sure they know he needs them. "The Black Ships increased in number and frequency of their harrowing voyages. According to some records, today four times the number of psykers are sacrificed daily to maintain optimal levels of power to the Golden Throne and the Astronomican as were originally required in the days immediately after the Emperor's Ascension." They even need more as time goes on.

 

The guy that references a source that he doesn't read and said source even contradicts his statement is asking someone else if they can critically think? Nice.

Lmao ok.

 

He wasn’t a god before, he didn’t show any sign of being a god for roughly 10k years, and suddenly he’s making saints, possessing primarchs and calming the warp in the rift after around 10k years of being worshipped…

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

3 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

‘We are talking here not of sorcery, or what you refer to as psychic power, but of faith. Faith is the most powerful force in this galaxy. It requires no proof to convince. It grants conviction to those who believe. It brings hope to the hopeless, and where it flourishes, reality changes. A single mind connected strongly to the warp can bend the laws of our universe, but a billion minds, a trillion minds, all believing the same thing? It matters little if they are psykers or not. The influence of so many souls has a profound effect. My kind birthed a god. Perhaps now it is your turn…’

 

I'm assuming that's the passage you're referring to by the farseer. Guilliman immediately responds with:

 

‘The Emperor smashed every idol He came across. He threw down churches and temples, even the meanest shaman’s hut was burned to the ground. We were commanded to destroy every sign of religion we found. Iterators stood in the ashes of belief and spread the Imperial Truth. The Emperor would brook no cult but that of reason…. reason is a faith of its own, with its own traps and heresies. I have not fallen into worship. Lorgar’s arguments are persuasive, but are built on several fallacies for all that. The Emperor said Himself that He was no god, over and over again. You should have seen Him when He commanded me to punish Lorgar. His anger was no sham. I cannot see any situation in which He would be happy with the way the Imperium has turned out.'

 

Haley intentionally sows seeds of doubt immediately after. Because one eldar says something one time from his point of view in a book it's automatically true? I guess agree to disagree.

What seeds of doubt?

 

1. The worship was against his will, and the warp doesn’t care what any individual wants, not even the all mighty emperor of mankind

2. people can change over time, if big E saw the only way to defeat the gods of chaos was to ascend himself, then there’s little doubt he’d do so, because above all else as far as we have seen is that he wants for humanity to thrive.

 

 

[Special Officer Doofy]

1 minute ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Lmao ok.

 

He wasn’t a god before, he didn’t show any sign of being a god for roughly 10k years, and suddenly he’s making saints, possessing primarchs and calming the warp in the rift after around 10k years of being worshipped…

 

Is alive for almost 40,000 years before going to the throne. Is an immortal perpetual. Strongest psyker in the universe. Is made up of 1000+ people. Took over most of the galaxy. Created the primarchs. Won the heresy. Killed the strongest being in the galaxy who is empowered by 4 gods. That's all before 40k. I guess we have different definitions of what a made up God is in a made up Sci fy setting. But at this point we are getting so far off topic Lensonven. Agree to disagree, we wasted enough of everyone else's time reading our back and forth. 

[DemonGSides]

10 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

‘We are talking here not of sorcery, or what you refer to as psychic power, but of faith. Faith is the most powerful force in this galaxy. It requires no proof to convince. It grants conviction to those who believe. It brings hope to the hopeless, and where it flourishes, reality changes. A single mind connected strongly to the warp can bend the laws of our universe, but a billion minds, a trillion minds, all believing the same thing? It matters little if they are psykers or not. The influence of so many souls has a profound effect. My kind birthed a god. Perhaps now it is your turn…’

 

I'm assuming that's the passage you're referring to by the farseer. Guilliman immediately responds with:

 

‘The Emperor smashed every idol He came across. He threw down churches and temples, even the meanest shaman’s hut was burned to the ground. We were commanded to destroy every sign of religion we found. Iterators stood in the ashes of belief and spread the Imperial Truth. The Emperor would brook no cult but that of reason…. reason is a faith of its own, with its own traps and heresies. I have not fallen into worship. Lorgar’s arguments are persuasive, but are built on several fallacies for all that. The Emperor said Himself that He was no god, over and over again. You should have seen Him when He commanded me to punish Lorgar. His anger was no sham. I cannot see any situation in which He would be happy with the way the Imperium has turned out.'

 

Haley intentionally sows seeds of doubt immediately after. Because one eldar says something one time from his point of view in a book it's automatically true? I guess agree to disagree.

 

I think you're making more of semantic argument than anything; faith is the same as belief is the same as emotion.

Gulliman also isn't infallible in this situation, so leaning on his caustic rebuttal to Eldrad here isn't any more of a concrete fact than Eldrad's is.

 

But Eldrad is speaking truthfully; the Eldar's collective 'faith'; in this instance, 'faith' meaning their devotion to excess and debauchery of that time; did in deed birth a god.  Ork's 'faith', aka their belief in something working, has been shown to do pretty ridiculous things multiple times in the lore.

 

To try to make some big distinction between the psyker batteries (Which for what Psyker means in universe, is basically just distilled 'faith') just feels like making a distinction that the universe itself doesn't.

[Special Officer Doofy]

52 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

I think you're making more of semantic argument than anything; faith is the same as belief is the same as emotion.

Gulliman also isn't infallible in this situation, so leaning on his caustic rebuttal to Eldrad here isn't any more of a concrete fact than Eldrad's is.

 

But Eldrad is speaking truthfully; the Eldar's collective 'faith'; in this instance, 'faith' meaning their devotion to excess and debauchery of that time; did in deed birth a god.  Ork's 'faith', aka their belief in something working, has been shown to do pretty ridiculous things multiple times in the lore.

 

To try to make some big distinction between the psyker batteries (Which for what Psyker means in universe, is basically just distilled 'faith') just feels like making a distinction that the universe itself doesn't.

 

Well Eldrad is using the word "birth" and I remember another source using the word "created", but other stories in 40k use the word "awaken" or "came self aware", which means they didn't actually create Slaanesh and it existed before. "Slaanesh is the youngest of the four major Chaos Gods, having come to full self-awareness within the Immaterium only during the 30th Millennium." I get it, that's more semantics but those words mean completely different things. Creating and birthing implies there was nothing before. Awakening means it was already there and something ended it's slumber (like a spark). That's two wildly different energy amounts. Might not be the best example, but get a pile of wood and cover it in gasoline. It's not on fire. Now, Light it with a lighter. The energy of the fire is alot. The energy from the lighter used to start the fire is tiny relative to the wood and gas burning. 

 

The psyker thing is different in my opinion. The Emperor was not created by faith. He was created by psykers sacrificing themselves and being reincarnated as a single entity. Psykers are feeding the machine keeping him alive, not faith. And I don't think psykers translate to "faith" in the universe, I think it's more "energy". Psychic spells and abilities use energy from the warp. "All psykers draw their powers from the extradimensional realm of psychic energy known as the Immaterium or the "Warp" that underlies and penetrates four-dimensional realspace and is the source of all psychic energy in the universe." I somewhat understand your argument that faith is an emotion, but not all emotions are faith or beliefs. You don't have to know or worship Khorne to go on a rampage collecting skulls to add emotion to the warp. I don't think the words are interchangeable because of those differences. All the excess and other emotions fed into Slaanesh before it became aware, how can you have faith in something you don't even know exists?

 

Like I told the others, agree to disagree I suppose. The warp is fickle! 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

2 hours ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

Is alive for almost 40,000 years before going to the throne. Is an immortal perpetual. Strongest psyker in the universe. Is made up of 1000+ people. Took over most of the galaxy. Created the primarchs. Won the heresy. Killed the strongest being in the galaxy who is empowered by 4 gods. That's all before 40k. I guess we have different definitions of what a made up God is in a made up Sci fy setting. But at this point we are getting so far off topic Lensonven. Agree to disagree, we wasted enough of everyone else's time reading our back and forth. 

And none of that is godly, unlike literally smoothing a path through an entire warp storm…possibly the bogged in recorded history…

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

When the next edition comes around the tracked 40K SM vehicles will become obsolete. So I will have only this year to get hold of any remaining rhinos and predators which are still needed for my collection.

[ZeroWolf]

10 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

When the next edition comes around the tracked 40K SM vehicles will become obsolete. So I will have only this year to get hold of any remaining rhinos and predators which are still needed for my collection.

I personally wouldn't feel confident in saying that. They may want it eventually, but I think they'll be going the slowest way possible with it

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

If we want to continue the discussion about the emperor godhood and primarchs etc let’s do it here

 

 

[TheMawr]

2 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

I personally wouldn't feel confident in saying that. They may want it eventually, but I think they'll be going the slowest way possible with it

 

When it comes to vehicles GW is very slow with both removing and updating them.. slow being an understatement and non-existant being more correct. For an elment of the game I have no real interest in its still something that keeps me wondering, it cant be because of cost/sales thing because Horus Heresy, wich I assume has less customers than 40k, has had more new tanks in a one or two years than 40k had in a decade.

 

Moving from tanks to the primarchs.

I am not so sure if the largescale primarch return people anticipate is really in the immediate cards, and definitely not at the speed or "balance between loyal and traitor" people are so convinced about, even if this edition would get another, its not because of some grand 2 primarchs per edition plan, but its because they had the big chaos 4 to cross off. Going forward I think we can have entire editions without any primarch, Horus Heresy probably having a selection of all the primarchs in plastic sooner than 40k has.

One that has been described as very likely, Ive started seeing as very unlikely; The moment Rogal Dorn became a tank in 40k it was clear there are no near future plans for Rogal dorn the primarch returning. I am aware that Horus Heresy has both Leman Russ the primarch and the tank, but it is a slightly different situation in a studio that has a slightly different attitude.

 

While that was purely talking hypothetical I can also remember GW talking about "When returning they may not all return leading the associated army/faction/chapter (I cant remember the exact wording)." this then took to discussions of some loyals turning traitor and vice versa.. wich was never very likely. I think they meant more things like Rogal Dorn being a Black templars character, Jaghatai Khan returning from the webway in the emperors palace and leading custodes, Corvus corax with deathwatch etc. that kind of ideas.

 

This would be controversial choices. And thinking further on that controversy, it made me think we could see some primarchs returning not as the primarchs. The Drazhar thing. How that works I wouldnt know. Just situations where in and out of universe its debatable of the new big powerful character named [redacted] is or isnt primarch X.

I would welcome it, but I think most people here would rather just have their chosen primarch back, but although that specific topic has moved elsewhere.. I noticed a trent when I returned in 7th that all ambiguity had left.. the eldar gods are described as being excisting ( or ex-excisting ) things instead of being able to discuss the nature in relation to the Old ones and superior arcane science etc. The whole Ynnead plot for example would be much more interesting if there was more focus on ambiguity of its nature ( its there, but its very shallow.)

 

Anyway just my two cents.

 

 

[TheMawr]

On 1/30/2025 at 4:18 PM, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

11th Edition is coming late Q2 or Q3, 2026. At this point I think that is inevitable. Just looking at the release cycle since 7th ediiton makes that a safe bet:

• 7th Edition Launch: Q2 2014 (May)

• 8th Edition Launch: Q2 2017 (June) - Marked starting point of "new" GW. Where their stock exploded.

• 9th Edition Launch: Q3 2020 (July) - Covid.

• 10th Edition Launch: Q2 2023 (June)

 

 

TL;DR: I predict:

• Russ will be the next primarch after Fulgrim, Then The Khan.

• Armageddon campaign book for Russ & new SM characters

• 11th Editon will launch in Q2/3 2026. 10th Edition books will be compatible.

• 11th Launch will be Fast Attack Space Marines vs Drukhari

• Drukhari storyline will herald The Khan

• Following Primarchs will be Lorgar and Perturabo.

 

( I misquoted a part but it isnt that important for the context.)

 

The Rumors of the new edition coming sooner have already been pointed out, but at that point it wont be really 11th edition I think, but as I said in another topic maybe a switch from a 3 year cycle to a 2+2 year cycle, with a theoretical first 2 years for the majority of the codexes and the last 2 years for the narrative aspect & supplements (beyond spacemarines) basically (end of) 7th edition.

 

If its this year, it could be October.. I think that is the latest in the year we have had new editions ? It would also finally be an actual Orktober if that part of the rumors is true.

 

Q1 : Eldar, Guard, EC for sure.. with the other 3 around april. GW has done 3 codex releases in a single month before, it isnt too farfetched. mind you even with all of this in the first few months, it still is half the releases in a same time period AoS has gotten, they are more than capable, its just that they usually focus this energy on AoS, not on 40k.

 

Q2-Q3 : the 3 other chaos books first obviously.
At first, because they didnt use codex art for the roadmap and there is a lack of worldeaters rumors, despite them being so soon I was thinking the picture represented a campaign book ( as that full illustration is Worldeaters vs Orks.) but upon closer inspection it specifically says world eaters, so I assume its world eaters codex.

 

However if this year has both a new edition and an end of edition campaign, it should start Q2 at its latest, wich could mean the last 4 images in the roadmap are all for Q2.

 

April : 3 chaos codexes
May : Grey knights & Campaign
Jun : Templars & Knights
Jul : Campaign ( not teased on the roadmap )
Aug : Space wolves ( mind you this would be the first larger than 5 kits release in months, and the first more than 10 kits release in the edition.. 9th had 3 of those ( Orks, Guard and Votan ) as did 8th ( SoB, CSM and GSC )
Sep : Campaign ( not teased on the roadmap )
Okt : 11th edition

 

Jul and Sep could potentially also have the LoV and Drukhari codexes or august because like I said in another topic, I still see the chance that the space wolves release is heavily tied to the new edition release.. if not in the boxset ( I know the counter arguments, I still dont see it as impossible.) then just being the first big release after the boxset. I could also see them skipped over for now. Either way, I dont think LoV and Drukhari will be as big releases as fans want them to be if they are this year.

 

With the wording of the roll call for the open submission ( I know its a stretch, but people do base Armageddon getting attention on this same text as well.) I wonder if those 3 warfronts represent the campaigns; Armageddon, Vigilus and Commoragh.

If they split up the rumored ( and expected, because of the roadmap.) solo spacemarine characters, I could see Vulkan and the white scars character being tied to Commoragh, the imperial fists elements (incl Black templars, and nonrumored pedro cantor.) to Armageddon and the rest to Vigilus. Maybe even with other out-of-codex rumored characters.

 

btw regarding the amount of kits :

Not counting starterset or things like BSF ; 40k has a little under 50 kits per year (except last year, where it was only 35), and AoS around 60.
Guard, EC, Eldar, 3 Chaos = 23 kits
leftover Codex minimum 1 kit + Killteam = 13 kits
Space wolves rumor = 11 kits
This total would make 47 kits, but because of last year there is wiggle room of it being more. ( when AoS had 35 kits once, the next year was massive, with 3 10+ kits releases : Lumineth, Slaanesh, Soulblight, Cursed city and a packed end of edition campaign all coming in just a couple of months before the new edition and the starter release waves of that.)

in short, there is room to include all of the above comfortably.

 

And so ends my wall of text.

 

 

 

 

 

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

On 2/1/2025 at 3:19 AM, TheMawr said:

The Rumors of the new edition coming sooner have already been pointed out, but at that point it wont be really 11th edition I think, but as I said in another topic maybe a switch from a 3 year cycle to a 2+2 year cycle, with a theoretical first 2 years for the majority of the codexes and the last 2 years for the narrative aspect & supplements (beyond spacemarines) basically (end of) 7th edition.

I hope we do move to 4 year cycles, it give the editions room to breathe. However, with Horus Heresy getting a 2.5/3.0 edition this summer, would GW then do 11th in the same year?

[TheMawr]

29 minutes ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

I hope we do move to 4 year cycles, it give the editions room to breathe. However, with Horus Heresy getting a 2.5/3.0 edition this summer, would GW then do 11th in the same year?

 

Yes, I actually think they would, and I can see several core motivations for doing so.

However Im more skeptical about rumors of a new edition of Horus Heresy than I am of any of the 40k rumors, despite both coming from the same "there it is" repeating source ;)

 

As a distinct studio FW really doesnt have the resources or momentum to do 3 year edition cycles with their games even if they wanted to, wich I really dont think they do. Otherwise we would have seen it before with one of their other games. And if the edition switch rumor is based on narrative jumps and/or boxsets.. FW always have done these without making it a new edition thing.

 

Even if this year will see a 11th or more likely 10.5, I dont know if it will signal a change to 2+2=4 years editions pattern. I made a humorous post in another topic about a new edition coming this years just to make sure the one after that comes with 40ks 40 years anniversary in 2027. And despite the humorous tone of it, I genuinely do think this might be a motivation behind it. After said anniversary rolling back to 3 year editions.. or whatever they feel is most profitable then.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Based on the quality of the end product the 40k studio doesn't have the resources for 3 year cycles either. If GW want HH on a 3 year cycle there's no stopping it. GW is run by suits not the design studios. 

 

Anyway, the only important Primarch is Rogal Dorn. Literally, not figuratively, the best Primarch. Bring him back and then call it a day. 

Edited February 3 by The Praetorian of Inwit