What do Chaplains Wear?

[jaxom]

Like, when the 10th Company was all Scouts, did they wear Scout armor? We know full Marines have Scout armor, but like did the 10th Company Chaplain wear it? What about Phobos armor or Gravis nowadays?

 

Let the argument commence.

[Grotsmasha]

Although to the best of my knowledge, GW hasn't ever mentioned this, The precedent has been set by the Phobos Librarian and Gravis Apothecary models for Primaris marines, I feel confident in saying that Primaris Chaplains would wear any of the new mkX armour variants.

For firstborn though, I'm inclinded to think that Librarians and Chaplains remain in full plate vs wearing Scout armour.

Edited January 30 by Grotsmasha

[HeadlessCross]

Crozius Armani

[Tacitus]

5 hours ago, jaxom said:

Like, when the 10th Company was all Scouts, did they wear Scout armor? We know full Marines have Scout armor, but like did the 10th Company Chaplain wear it? What about Phobos armor or Gravis nowadays?

 

Let the argument commence.

The Scout Company Captains wore Scout Armor.  I would assume they also wore Power Armor from time to time.  I believe Chaplains did the same thing.  They wore scout armor when they were in the field doing scout things, and they wore the power armor for ceremonial/leadership functions - as a motivator to their Scouts to get their own Power Armor.  I believe that now, they wear Phobos armor pretty much full time as Phobos is Mission Specific but still Full Marine armor.

[TwinOcted]

11 hours ago, jaxom said:

Like, when the 10th Company was all Scouts, did they wear Scout armor? We know full Marines have Scout armor, but like did the 10th Company Chaplain wear it? What about Phobos armor or Gravis nowadays?

 

Let the argument commence.

Back in the 1st edition of Apocalypse, you could take the 10th company as a battle formation.  The captain, command squad, and chaplain, (which were all compulsory) wore power armour rather than scout armour.

[Tacitus]

2 hours ago, TwinOcted said:

Back in the 1st edition of Apocalypse, you could take the 10th company as a battle formation.  The captain, command squad, and chaplain, (which were all compulsory) wore power armour rather than scout armour.

It sounds like they put them all in Power Armor because they weren't available in Scout Armor.  We already know the Captain wore Scout Armor - but they never made the Captain. 

[TwinOcted]

5 hours ago, Tacitus said:

It sounds like they put them all in Power Armor because they weren't available in Scout Armor.  We already know the Captain wore Scout Armor - but they never made the Captain. 

Probably, but back in 4th edition (when Apocalypse was first released) Command squads and attached characters could take Infiltrate as an upgrade.  A good way of showing that the command staff didn't forget their scout training, despite upgrading their armour.

 

I miss the first edition of Apocalypse, it never failed to be fun for me.

[TheNicronomicon]

What does a Chaplain wear? Anything the Chapter Master says!

[AutumnEffect]

I always assumed that because a Chaplain's purpose was to be a visible and audible source of inspiration with their black armor, prayers and fancy staff of office, that they would scorn the use of stealth equipment.

 

This was why I assumed there isn't a phobos chaplain. Hard to sneak up on someone when you are shouting catechisms and waving a gold mace around.

 

I imagine in the 10th Company they would have their hands full enough with the spiritual and mental health and growth of the new recruits. It would be a far, far more important task for the chapter than bonking heads.

[Tacitus]

15 minutes ago, AutumnEffect said:

I always assumed that because a Chaplain's purpose was to be a visible and audible source of inspiration with their black armor, prayers and fancy staff of office, that they would scorn the use of stealth equipment.

 

This was why I assumed there isn't a phobos chaplain. Hard to sneak up on someone when you are shouting catechisms and waving a gold mace around.

 

I imagine in the 10th Company they would have their hands full enough with the spiritual and mental health and growth of the new recruits. It would be a far, far more important task for the chapter than bonking heads.

Going out with them under the stresses of their job is when he'd be at his busiest working on their mental and spiritual health.

[Indy Techwisp]

2 hours ago, AutumnEffect said:

I always assumed that because a Chaplain's purpose was to be a visible and audible source of inspiration with their black armor, prayers and fancy staff of office, that they would scorn the use of stealth equipment.

 

This was why I assumed there isn't a phobos chaplain. Hard to sneak up on someone when you are shouting catechisms and waving a gold mace around.

 

I imagine in the 10th Company they would have their hands full enough with the spiritual and mental health and growth of the new recruits. It would be a far, far more important task for the chapter than bonking heads.

 

Being visible and audible is kinda what Reivers want to do, so a Phobos Chappy that's Reiver themed would work.

Also as Tacticus said the place Scouts would most need their mental and spiritual health worked on is during an operation.

[TheNicronomicon]

He can give an inspiring speech in the drop pod or Land Raider. He could lead by example. He could start roaring out curses and benedictions on e the knives come out and bolts start flying. These guys all know sign language too, and it’s not like the books are full of them subvocalizing to each other over suit comms too. Many different ways to lead, inspire, and communicate. Don’t get locked into thinking one mode is the only mode. 
 

[Tacitus]

3 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

Being visible and audible is kinda what Reivers want to do, so a Phobos Chappy that's Reiver themed would work.

Also as Tacticus said the place Scouts would most need their mental and spiritual health worked on is during an operation.

Reivers want to be visible and vocal when they chose - which is why they're in Phobos. 

[AutumnEffect]

18 hours ago, Tacitus said:

Going out with them under the stresses of their job is when he'd be at his busiest working on their mental and spiritual health.

 

I think he'd be at his busiest after he blew their cover during the operation and got half the squad killed. The way that Space Marines compartmentalize and control their emotional responses (and Scouts are certainly far enough along to be capable of this) I actually dont think he would be most needed in the field, not for the 10th Company in any case.

 

The 10th Company isn't just scouts and phobos marines, it's also the default home of the dozens or maybe even hundreds of aspirants and neophytes of the chapter. Children and the future of the Chapter. The 10th Company Chaplain has to induct all of them into the Chapter's cult, rituals and rites besides other secular duties.

 

Honestly, I imagine that the 10th Company Chaplain would be second only to the Master of Sanctity, if not in chain of command then certainly in importance and honor, with fewer chances for glory but no less in importance. They would probably be on par with the Reclusiarch which also makes a certain amount of sense; one guards the Chapter's past, the other guards it's future.

 

To sum up, he has more important things to do than punching orks with the boys and probably doesn't have many opportunities to leave the Chapter's home world or Fortress Monastery unless something unusual is up and the entire 10th Company is fighting together. Let us not forget that members of the 10th, like the 1st, are usually split off and fight under the command staff of the other companies anyway.

------ Edit ------

Looking into it a bit further, there's another posibility.
There are no 10th company chaplains.
There are no company-specific chaplains at all any more.

The Chapter Organization charts that have been updated for the Primaris changes don't list them under the company sections any longer. It's distinctly likely that they are now detached on an as-needed basis rather than being permanently attached to any given company. 
 

Edited February 1 by AutumnEffect