ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Brothers! Dawn of War 4 is rumoured to be in the works. When it arrives is anyone's guess. To make the wait bareable, I thought we could wishlist all aspects of the game and discuss where even the gold standard of Dawn of War (imo), Dark Crusade, could improve. Do you want the gameplay/mechanics to be more like DoW1 with base building etc or more like DoW2 with the squad tactics and a more in-depth cover system. I personally wouldn't mind a bit of a mix. I want base building to return, I don't know how to improve on DoW1's base building to be honest. I want full sized squads and therefore big battles, but the cover mechanics and positioning of squads in DoW2 was cool, as was the characters loadouts and progressions. I would prefer no backflipping catafractii chapter masters though... What Factions do you want the game to launch with and therefore what story? For me, launch has to have Space Marines, Eldar, Orks and Chaos Space Marines (Black Legion). I loved the Dark Crusade campaign style with the planet map, I'd love to see that return but could it be mixed in with linear levels? Either way, the campaign should be playable by all factions. As they add more factions, maybe that's another planet in the system. In terms of units, as a huge SM fan I would love the Primaris range to be fuly realised (including Terminators, Sternguard and upcoming VV). While it was cool seeing titans and knights in mods and such, I never understood why they were accessible by SM. The Titanium Wars mod let SM have a Warhound titan and it didn't really make sense to me. Just make Mechanicus a faction? So, what do you want? I open the floor to you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaMan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Is this the rumour based on the 4chan user who claims to have done a market research survey for DOW4? If we get DOW 4 and Total War: Warhammer 40,000 we really will be spoilt for choice. I’d want DOW1 style base building definitely. Didn’t really care for DOW2 or 3 RPG elements. ChapterMasterGodfrey 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domhnall Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Based more on DoW 1 rather than 2 or 3 please. I played DoW2 and it was alright, but it wasn't as good as DoW1 and it's expansions. As long as it's got a good campaign and single player content I'm happy. Obviously PvP, but I'd not be touching that. I much prefered the base building aspect over having a finite sqaud, though, I'm sure they could have aspects of the two: Get your army to the objective, do the stuff, win! Now, get your elite squad in to extract the survivors/execute the enemy general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 Yes and Relic have confirmed they're working on a new Compnay of Heroes and an untitled game. Could the latter be DoW4? I certainly hope so! I think if DoW4 is real, then I don't think we'll get TW:40K they'd just canabalise each other. I would prefer DoW4 over TW:40K at any rate. I wouldn't mind some degree of RPG elements, units gaining experience etc. But if it had to be a mix I'd want more 80 /20 DoW1 style to DoW2 style. ThaneOfTas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Domhnall said: Obviously PvP, but I'd not be touching that. I would, but only casually. The "Competitive Scene" is the death of games imo. 3 minutes ago, Domhnall said: I much prefered the base building aspect over having a finite sqaud, though, I'm sure they could have aspects of the two: Get your army to the objective, do the stuff, win! Now, get your elite squad in to extract the survivors/execute the enemy general. Yes this would be very cool. I wouldn't mind even if when they died to promote a new brother to the squad. I'd foregor excessive VA and Character backstory to make the chapter/craftworld/klan/warband feel like a living organisation. Domhnall 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 if it´s anything like DoW3 with it´s moba style of gameplay, it can be throw to trash without even looking... DoW 2 was okay, a change to regular RTS genre. But DoW itself was amazing, we need more of that ChapterMasterGodfrey 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, Jukkiz said: DoW 2 was okay, a change to regular RTS genre. But DoW itself was amazing, we need more of that Yes I'd like a return to DoW1 with sme RPG elements from 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaMan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said: I think if DoW4 is real, then I don't think we'll get TW:40K they'd just canabalise each other. I would prefer DoW4 over TW:40K at any rate. I wouldn't mind some degree of RPG elements, units gaining experience etc. But if it had to be a mix I'd want more 80 /20 DoW1 style to DoW2 style. I don’t know, I think they could have distinct identities. The total war formula is quite unique with its turn-based campaign/real time battles etc. I have to say, I can’t really fully imagine what total war Warhammer 40,000 would be like, so it’s hard to set up a compare contrast. If DOW did go back to base building that would offer something I feel total war really misses (I loved how in Rome one buildings you made in the campaign appeared on the battle map). I have no idea how the licensing works for this though. Did Relic retain the DOW license when they parted ways with Sega? Total War is creative assembly, owned by Sega. Can GW issue broad licenses to factions etc to both entities? I just don’t know. ChapterMasterGodfrey 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 didn't dawn of war get relegated to legends Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I'd prefer DoW1 style base-building for the multiplayer/quick-battle games as it's much more fun for those modes, but I feel it'd be nice if the campaign was more like DoW2's campaigns where you lead your squads across the map and have to reinforce at set points. What I'm really invested in is the army painter function. I'd much prefer full colour control (so you pick your colour from the wheel and can adjust glossiness, metallicness etc) rather than having pre-set colour swatches and nothing else. That's my biggest bugbear with SM2; having to unlock colours is lame. Also, some kind of official modding support would be nice. DoW1 still has a healthy modding community after all, so it'd be really good to have some actual in-built support for custom content. ChapterMasterGodfrey 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Guard, Nids and Orks could play like they did in DOW1- large armies with bases. Marines, Eldar and Tau like they did in DOW2 - small, mobile with an emphasis on squad custimzation ChapterMasterGodfrey 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Company of Heroes 2 but 40k, that's all I ask for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I'd happily take a modern update of Soulstorm or Dark Crusade. I love me a campaign map, with resources and bases, like on Civ when you zoom out and all the blue bits are you and all the red bits are the bits you have forcefully take from that most heinous of heretics, Gandhi. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6093343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 On 2/7/2025 at 6:44 PM, No Foes Remain said: Company of Heroes 2 but 40k, that's all I ask for. Is that not Dawn of War 2? I thought DoW2 was essentially a CoH reskin. I am speaking from second hand sources I didn't play Company of Heroes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6094100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 5 hours ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said: Is that not Dawn of War 2? I thought DoW2 was essentially a CoH reskin. I am speaking from second hand sources I didn't play Company of Heroes. Kinda? It's basically CoH 1.5 but at half scale force wise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385259-dawn-of-war-4-wishlisting/#findComment-6094178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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