LightningClawLeonard Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) For anyone who owns/has used any of the old Imperial Armour books, which volume(s) are your favorites or stand out to you, and why? I am interested in acquiring one, maybe even a few, but I didn't get into the hobby until a couple years ago so I have no personal experience or point of reference. Further clarification of why I am asking: After buying a copy of the 4th Edition rules, the 3.5 CSM codex and a few other 3rd/4th Ed codices a while back, I have really sunk into the world and rules presented in those books. The quality of writing and worldbuilding is just so superior to anything GW puts out these days. I have seen copies of old Black Books and Imperial Armour volumes going for anywhere to $125 to $800 on eBay and other sites. I have no interest in paying $500 for a book, but in my estimation the writing, lore and color plates are at least 3-5 times better than a modern codex, so spending 3-5 times the cost of a modern codex, say $150-250ish, doesn't seem too unreasonable. Not to mention it seems like a big plus that most of the books will have rules, datasheets and missions that are either directly compatible or easily translatable to the 4th Edition ruleset, which I have settled on as my primary focus for potential projects/list building outside of HH 2.0. Note that I say "particularly standalone" in the title because from everything I have read or watched online, the Badab War volumes seem to be far and away the most lauded set of books, followed by the Siege of Vraks. While I still appreciate any opinions on those, the reason why I made this thread is because information or opinions on the other volumes is lacking. In addition, it seems that to get the full value out of those, you'd need all of the books, which is a more expensive proposition. Most of what is out there about the other books is basic, factual stuff that you could deduce for yourself from looking at the contents on Lexicanum, like "If you play Orks Raid on Kastorel-Novem is a good bet", or brief mentions that end up just falling back on the greatness of Vraks or Badab, such as "Volume 11 was pretty good, but the Badab War books were the best". I also left out the Black Books out of this particular discussion because there are a ton of opinions and descriptions of those available online due to the ongoing popularity of the novels and game. Also, yes I know that PDFs exist of these online, but I want to hear personal opinions from people who have enjoyed the books themselves, played with the rules, etc. I personally have no interest in digital copies of anything or subscription services, so a PDF or Warhammer+ subscription isn't something I want. Edited 20 hours ago by LightningClawLeonard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago If you’re a Chaos fan you need IA Vol. 13: War Machines of the Lost and the Damned. It has 5th (I think? Maybe 4th, should be compatible with either) edition rules for all of the FW Chaos vehicles, including Heresy relics and the FW demon engines, an army list for playing traitor guard, and a ton of awesome Chaos lore in the uniquely grounded and engrossing style of FW. sitnam, TwinOcted, DuskRaider and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Try to find a pdf on the interwebz before you pay a large sum of money for those books. Wormwoods and LightningClawLeonard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningClawLeonard Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Rain said: If you’re a Chaos fan you need IA Vol. 13: War Machines of the Lost and the Damned. It has 5th (I think? Maybe 4th, should be compatible with either) edition rules for all of the FW Chaos vehicles, including Heresy relics and the FW demon engines, an army list for playing traitor guard, and a ton of awesome Chaos lore in the uniquely grounded and engrossing style of FW. It's interesting, at first this one wasn't on my radar at all because it wasn't centered on a specific event or conflict, but recently I have seen more and more people speak positively about it, was actually just watching a recent youtube video where someone was paging through it. 20 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said: Try to find a pdf on the interwebz before you pay a large sum of money for those books. I'll certainly do this before I actually pull the trigger on buying one of these, I just think it's interesting to hear about people's specific experiences/enjoyment of certain books. Often I learn something that I think wouldn't have jumped out at me had I just paged through a document online. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Plague Zombies are the best thing about the Lost and the Damned. I can field 220 of them. Blasting those walkers with template weapons never gets old. :) DuskRaider and LightningClawLeonard 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) The Anphelion Project is the most intriguing one for me story wise. It's a rather small scale campaign, and its presentation relies more heavily on in-universe texts than later volumes. The backdrop is basically Jurassic Park meets Aliens. Edited 17 hours ago by Lay LightningClawLeonard and Valkyrion 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago I have the second edition (meant for 7th) of Anphelion Project and it is a fantastic book. You'd want the original version though. I've also heard great things about the Taros Campaign, particularly with how the Imperium was handed a defeat without resorting to Deus Ex Machina or idiot balls. LightningClawLeonard and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, Evil Eye said: I have the second edition (meant for 7th) of Anphelion Project and it is a fantastic book. You'd want the original version though. I've also heard great things about the Taros Campaign, particularly with how the Imperium was handed a defeat without resorting to Deus Ex Machina or idiot balls. True. If they had given me a call then I would have given the fish people a run for their money. sitnam and Evil Eye 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago My favorite thing to ever come out of the IA series was the Traitor Guard lists that started with Vraks and got expande dupon in IA:13. As far as campaigns, I think Taros might be my favorite. I'm pretty sure my love of Kroot started from their secions in that book DuskRaider 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The only IA books I own are the Badab War books, but I'm very glad I have them. I enjoy them describing a fratercidal conflict that isn't because of Chaos but due to the arrogance of one man and unrelenting imperial tithes. Plus it expanded on so many obscure Space Marine chapters which are now legendary fan favourites. Space Sharks being re-done as the Carcharodons Astra is still the greatest glow up in 40k in my opinion. I am also very glad GW put the IA books on to Warhammer+. Wish they were complete but it's still good to have all that lore available. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Anphelion Project is my favourite by a HUGE margin, then the Badab books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allart01 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Man, they are really awesome books and none of them will disappoint you. My personal favourite is the Vraks Trilogy, but as a standalone book I'd recommend Anphelion. Taros and Kastorel are not to be slept on, though! The latter in particular is really growing on me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Favourite Volumes thusly: 'The incomplete and nonsensical volumes accounting of the unjust and unrighteous persecution of the Lord and Master of the Maelstrom, his regal majesty by Divine Right of war and the Emeperor's own decree, ratified by the High Lords, whom none shall impeach - His military and civic governor-in-stead, the esteemed and ennobled by birth Imperial Lord Commander Lugft Huron, and the wickedly inopportune, hastily conducted and poorly presented without evidence or causus belli, trials of his allies and liegemen the Astral Claws and the noble and tireless Maelstrom Warders in whom the Emperor laid his trust, power and will.' Those. Edited 3 hours ago by Mazer Rackham Rain, Bung, Xin Ceithan and 1 other 2 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Badab War is my favorite AS a SM Player as it is Horus Heresy for grown ups. (Tax evasion vs. Daddy issues). :D I liked the Dead of Mynamera too, as you got the Eldar Corsair list, which sounded quite funny. Mazer Rackham, Rain and sitnam 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Vraks was and still is one of my favorite events in the setting, save perhaps the Heresy itself. Obviously not a standalone book, but I vividly remember reading those books as if they were a historical recount of actual events, the writing certainly helps as do the illustrations. Book Two in particular was my favorite, as it focused on the Death Guard warbands involved in the conflict and gave us rules to play a Nurgle Traitor Guard army, which I leaned heavily into. Xin Ceithan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: Favourite Volumes thusly: 'The incomplete and nonsensical volumes accounting of the unjust and unrighteous persecution of the Lord and Master of the Maelstrom, his regal majesty by Divine Right of war and the Emeperor's own decree, ratified by the High Lords, whom none shall impeach - His military and civic governor-in-stead, the esteemed and ennobled by birth Imperial Lord Commander Lugft Huron, and the wickedly inopportune, hastily conducted and poorly presented without evidence or causus belli, trials of his allies and liegemen the Astral Claws and the noble and tireless Maelstrom Warders in whom the Emperor laid his trust, power and will.' Those. In this house, Lugft Huron is a hero, endastory. Xin Ceithan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385399-your-favorite-volume-of-imperial-armour-particularly-standalone-books/#findComment-6097568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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