Confused about dating system

[crimsondave]

Can someone explain what these dates mean.  I thought I more or less understood the Indomitus system but apparently I don’t.

[Madao]

Have you checked https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System ?

[Rain]

A 40k forum is not where I would go to resolve my confusion about dating.

 

Sorry, I had to.

[apologist]

This gives a good overview of the pre-Indomitus system:

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…though whether the examples given are pre-or post the appearance of the Cicatrix Maledictum, I can’t say.

 

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… actually, from reading it, it looks like these are the new calendar, with the last three numbers saying 7 and 17 years after the rift appearing, rather than indicating the millennium. That’s probably why they look weird to someone familiar with the old system.

Edited March 2 by apologist

[jaxom]

Not sure. It's lacking the indicators for the old dating system and the new dating system. Maybe a sort of time mark similar to the Ultramarines legion mark for timing a campaign?

[crimsondave]

I know the old system well and kinda get the new Indomitus system more or less.  I've never seen one that didn't have the MXX in it somewhere, though.  Idk.  At least I'm not alone I guess.

 

The whole post riff timeline is frustrating.  Trying to do a Black Library submission was frustrating this year because it was so hard to figure out when things actually happened.

[Vassakov]

 

 

When in doubt, ask the Arbitors.

[crimsondave]

7 hours ago, apologist said:

This gives a good overview of the pre-Indomitus system:

IMG_3165.webpUnavailable

 

…though whether the examples given are pre-or post the appearance of the Cicatrix Maledictum, I can’t say.

 

+edit+
 

… actually, from reading it, it looks like these are the new calendar, with the last three numbers saying 7 and 17 years after the rift appearing, rather than indicating the millennium. That’s probably why they look weird to someone familiar with the old system.

That’s probably right and that helps but I still have no idea what the other numbers are.

[Nephaston]

12 hours ago, crimsondave said:

Can someone explain what these dates mean.  I thought I more or less understood the Indomitus system but apparently I don’t.

This doesn't look like a dating system, or at least not one counting up (unless they forgot the check number the second time around. We have 8 million for the first number, and 8 hundred thousand for the second number.  The number pre-decimal can neither be the complete number of the old system since the first is too far along and would be in year 791 of M42, while the second number, even when disregarding it being too small would be 144 M42. 

Neither could it be the new system as that is a standard terran year of  356 divided into chronosegments of 8 hours, which results in 1095 chronosegments per year

Though the number past the decimal might just be the year in the old style since the war of beasts/nightmares goes from 001 to 025 M42 or 1.192.VCM - 25.141.VCM

 

My guess is this is either some mechanicus shenanigans and they are for some reason counting seconds, since both numbers fit into the 31,556,926 seconds of the standard terran year OR they are the number of reports on that war.

If it is the former then the first timestamp is at the 8.795.791st second of the 7th year of M42, and the second is the 882.144th second of the 17th year of M42.

If it is the latter it is the 8.795.791st report of the war in the 7th year of M42 and the 882.144th report of the 17th year of M42.

 

Either seem plausible to me.

 

10 hours ago, Vassakov said:

 

 

When in doubt, ask the Arbitors.

 

Ian here seems to misinterpret the purpose of the new style. It is not meant to relate to Terra, because time CAN'T relate to Terra anymore. The new system is meant to keep time locally so the Logos Historica Verita can collect them as timestamps accounting for time dilation until Guilliman can get around to piecing it together.

It is meant to be a stopgap solution to show that even timekeeping in the grimdark future can be degraded, cause wars, and to show that the great rift doesn't care about the speed of light and would be the single unifyingly simultaneous event in the galaxy in living memory.

[Kaede45]

I found this site: https://calendar.40k.gg/