Taliesin Posted Monday at 02:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:16 PM Apparenly, as per Valrak, big boxset of Salamanders and Iron Warriors and new models, gun emplacement. End of Spring/Summer. Curious what kind of books will be released with it. HolyPestilience and Matcap86 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted Monday at 02:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:25 PM I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. LSM, LightningClawLeonard, roryokane and 17 others 20 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted Monday at 02:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:29 PM 3 minutes ago, Fire Golem said: I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. Hopefully, the rules don't shift significantly. ThaneOfTas, Dalmyth and SalamandersBro 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted Monday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:41 PM Yeah its disappointing to hear that his source says its HH 3.0 Will be interesting to see if it will leave all the Liber books compatible with 3.0, and it just be a rules sweep up SalamandersBro 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Monday at 02:45 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:45 PM I've been sat on the cusp of wanting to be involved in HH for ages, but the remaining resin stuff and larger game size have held me back. If they can do something to make a lower entry point than 3k b3ing the norm, that'd be a big help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted Monday at 02:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:46 PM (edited) 23 minutes ago, Fire Golem said: I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. If it's functionally 2.5 with "new edition" slapped on because the beancounters in head office demanded it, I won't be overly bothered. It doesn't really seem in the Specialist Team's wheelhouse to reinvent a game on a whim anyway. Three years for a glorified balance pass and errata implementation I can live with. I'm sure that won't stop months of "Heresy DUMBED DOWN? Swapping to 10TH EDITION RULES???" clickbait and fake rumours, mind. Edited Monday at 02:49 PM by Lord Marshal SalamandersBro, lokkorex, TheNicronomicon and 11 others 1 3 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted Monday at 03:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:07 PM Cool for MK2. Boo for Saturnine stuff. Would've much preferred resculpted Cataphractii or Tartaros MasterBlaster, Marshal Mittens, Aarik and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted Monday at 03:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:15 PM 29 minutes ago, Cyrox said: Yeah its disappointing to hear that his source says its HH 3.0 I'm seeing it as either it is, the source or Valrak see it as HH3.0, or Valrak is intentionally saying this to help with views (it is YouTube and it helps get the views! No slight against Valrak but it's what he has to do). 31 minutes ago, Cyrox said: Will be interesting to see if it will leave all the Liber books compatible with 3.0, and it just be a rules sweep up I've been toying with Heresy for a while now but not committed as I had a feeling new books would be on the way. I have some 40K World Eaters that I'm itching to convert up to either Sons of Horus Reavers or World Eater Berzerkers in Heresy, and I've kind of been waiting to see what happens. Cyrox and Cenobite Terminator 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted Monday at 03:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:18 PM I really hope it's just an evolution. If it changes to 10th like rules I'm out. Interrogator Stobz, Xirix, Deus_Ex_Machina and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted Monday at 03:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:24 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said: I really hope it's just an evolution. If it changes to 10th like rules I'm out. I feel like if they were ever going to swap to 8th/10th edition-esq rules it would have been last edition, back before the game was generally considered 'dead' by a lot of people and at a time when lots of 40k influencers were going "Heresy NEEDS to adopt 8th edition rules, none wants pre-7th anymore!". We've now had three years of proof there's still an appetite for crunchier, pre-8th style games. While I wouldn't doubt GW's willingness to blow it's foot off on a whim, I think TOW coming back relatively faithful to ye olde editions puts Heresy 3.0 in good stead to not follow the 10th edition gravy train. Edited Monday at 03:28 PM by Lord Marshal ThaneOfTas, Casual Heresy, Aarik and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted Monday at 03:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:40 PM As people have already stated its probably more like 2.5 but we know Games Workshop would never do that, the whispers are saying that this boxset will deffo be Hours Heresy Third Edition. Iron Father Ferrum, WrathOfTheLion, Marshal Mittens and 4 others 6 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirix Posted Monday at 03:44 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:44 PM Dreading the rules change, but maybe it'll be fine... after all, 3rd through 7th were all 'kinda' similar in their own ways, if this isn't 2.5 and is more of an actual new version, here's hoping it's still quite similar overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted Monday at 03:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:51 PM I'm hoping it's not an indication of a churn, so much as a need for a fix, but yeah, it probably is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted Monday at 04:07 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 04:07 PM 26 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said: As people have already stated its probably more like 2.5 but we know Games Workshop would never do that, the whispers are saying that this boxset will deffo be Hours Heresy Third Edition. Did you hear anything about what books, if any, this 3rd edition launch boxset would come with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted Monday at 04:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:09 PM 1 hour ago, Cyrox said: Yeah its disappointing to hear that his source says its HH 3.0 This. Stop making us buy the rules again every 3 years GW The very least that would make it tolerable would be that if it's more an FAQ'd version of the current rules, that doesn't require those with the current rule book to buy another £40 tome. TheArtilleryman, Matcap86, ThaneOfTas and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted Monday at 04:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:13 PM 1 hour ago, Fire Golem said: I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic? MasterBlaster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted Monday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:20 PM My local place still has boxes of AoD kicking around, wonder if they'll print as much of the new box as they seemed to overprint of that old box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted Monday at 04:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:26 PM I know all Legions had everything, but the anticipated legions don't really suggest two distinct forces to lean in to different sides of the armoury, so I would imagine it'd be 30 MKII (tacticals for sure, Breachers maybe?), 2 Characters, Sicaran with turret upgrade, Rapiers and maybe a flyer in a box analogous to AoD2.0. Can't seem them releasing outriders and seekers, for instance, if the box is marked as being Salamanders/Iron Warriors, and there's only really the Sabre of the non super heavy vehicles left to redo in plastic that isn't a flyer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted Monday at 04:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:33 PM 14 minutes ago, phandaal said: Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic? In terms of armour types - MKII and MKV, whilst MKIV, Cataphractii and Tartaros could do with an upgrade. In terms of units - Breachers, Outriders, Javelins, Land Speeders, Seekers, Recons (Legion Scouts?), Sabre, Xiphon, Storm Eagle, Fire Raptor, Rapiers, Dreadclaw, Arquitor, Termite, Sicaran options 'doable' Centrepiece models - Fellblade, Falchion, Glaive, Kharybdis, Thunderhawk Dalmyth, 01RTB01, roryokane and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted Monday at 04:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:41 PM (edited) 28 minutes ago, DemonGSides said: My local place still has boxes of AoD kicking around, wonder if they'll print as much of the new box as they seemed to overprint of that old box. AoD wasn't a FOMO box. It's a normal item like in the good ol' days, or it will be until this boxset presumably. 35 minutes ago, phandaal said: Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic? They've still got quite a bit they could push out: Mark IV / V Rapiers (which may come in this release?) Recon Squads / Seekers Destroyers Breachers Arquitors Sabres Outriders Xiphon Storm Eagle / Fire Raptors Dreadnought Drop Pods Deathstorm Drop Pods Kharybdis Drop Pods Dreadclaw Drop Pods Javelin Land Speeders Proteus Land Speeders Termites Fellblades + Variants Mastadon Missing Sicaran variants. Legacies units they could 'return' like the Whirlwind and Basilisks/Medusa. Probably stuff I've missed off this list. That's before getting into the Legion-specifics and non-Marine stuff, which is all largely still resin. Edited Monday at 04:49 PM by Lord Marshal roryokane and Castellan Wulfrik 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted Monday at 04:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:52 PM (edited) 39 minutes ago, phandaal said: Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic? For marines 3 Sicaran variants, 3 marine superheavies, Sabre, 3 Arquitor variants, Basilisk, Medusa, Rapier platforms, Mk2, 4 and 5 armours (mk7 armour possibly as well), specialised infantry units like Destroyers and Breachers. Storm Eagles and the Xiphon. New scale Terminators of all types. Castaferrum Dreadnougts. All types of speeder. For SA the Aurox and Carnadon, Lightning, Avenger and Thunderbolt flyers, flamer sections, rapier platforms. For Mechanicum, loads more stuff. For Custodes, nearly everything. For Sisters of Silence, nearly everything. Edited Monday at 04:54 PM by Robbienw Castellan Wulfrik 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted Monday at 05:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:00 PM If you don’t like 3 year rules cycles, stop supporting it. But big marine boxes are like catnip to the B&C members :D Brother Carpenter, ZeroWolf, Scribe and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted Monday at 05:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:00 PM 1 hour ago, darkhorse0607 said: Cool for MK2. Boo for Saturnine stuff. Would've much preferred resculpted Cataphractii or Tartaros I think resculpted terminators are definitely coming at some point, given they never did plastic weapon upgrade sets for them. skylerboodie and Casual Heresy 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted Monday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:06 PM Interesting to see if this will be the edition of infantry and specialist units support instead of waves of armour. Gaz Taylor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted Monday at 05:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:11 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said: Cool for MK2. Boo for Saturnine stuff. Would've much preferred resculpted Cataphractii or Tartaros It’ll be cool to see some new stuff though if it’s the old terminator design people have started called saturnine I’m less thrilled I have to agree though I’d love to see some updated cataphractii sculpts we’ll get it all within the next few years but I’m dying to see MKV MKIV Edited Monday at 05:12 PM by WARMASTER_ LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385463-heresy-30-in-springsummer/#findComment-6099165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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