Heresy 3.0 in Spring/Summer

[Taliesin]

Apparenly, as per Valrak, big boxset of Salamanders and Iron Warriors and new models, gun emplacement.

End of Spring/Summer.

 

Curious what kind of books will be released with it.

 

 

 

[Fire Golem]

I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. 

[01RTB01]

  On 3/10/2025 at 2:25 PM, Fire Golem said:

I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. 

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Hopefully, the rules don't shift significantly.

[Cyrox]

Yeah its disappointing to hear that his source says its HH 3.0

 

Will be interesting to see if it will leave all the Liber books compatible with 3.0, and it just be a rules sweep up

[Mogger351]

I've been sat on the cusp of wanting to be involved in HH for ages, but the remaining resin stuff and larger game size have held me back. If they can do something to make a lower entry point than 3k b3ing the norm, that'd be a big help.

[Lord Marshal]

  On 3/10/2025 at 2:25 PM, Fire Golem said:

I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. 

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If it's functionally 2.5 with "new edition" slapped on because the beancounters in head office demanded it, I won't be overly bothered. It doesn't really seem in the Specialist Team's wheelhouse to reinvent a game on a whim anyway. Three years for a glorified balance pass and errata implementation I can live with.

 

I'm sure that won't stop months of "Heresy DUMBED DOWN? Swapping to 10TH EDITION RULES???" clickbait and fake rumours, mind.

 

Edited March 10 by Lord Marshal

[darkhorse0607]

Cool for MK2. Boo for Saturnine stuff. Would've much preferred resculpted Cataphractii or Tartaros

[Gaz Taylor]

  On 3/10/2025 at 2:41 PM, Cyrox said:

Yeah its disappointing to hear that his source says its HH 3.0

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I'm seeing it as either it is, the source or Valrak see it as HH3.0, or Valrak is intentionally saying this to help with views  (it is YouTube and it helps get the views! No slight against Valrak but it's what he has to do).

 

  On 3/10/2025 at 2:41 PM, Cyrox said:

Will be interesting to see if it will leave all the Liber books compatible with 3.0, and it just be a rules sweep up

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I've been toying with Heresy for a while now but not committed as I had a feeling new books would be on the way. I have some 40K World Eaters that I'm itching to convert up to either Sons of Horus Reavers or World Eater Berzerkers in Heresy, and I've kind of been waiting to see what happens.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

I really hope it's just an evolution. If it changes to 10th like rules I'm out. 

[Lord Marshal]

  On 3/10/2025 at 3:18 PM, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

I really hope it's just an evolution. If it changes to 10th like rules I'm out. 

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I feel like if they were ever going to swap to 8th/10th edition-esq rules it would have been last edition, back before the game was generally considered 'dead' by a lot of people and at a time when lots of 40k influencers were going "Heresy NEEDS to adopt 8th edition rules, none wants pre-7th anymore!".

 

We've now had three years of proof there's still an appetite for crunchier, pre-8th style games. While I wouldn't doubt GW's willingness to blow it's foot off on a whim, I think TOW coming back relatively faithful to ye olde editions puts Heresy 3.0 in good stead to not follow the 10th edition gravy train.

 

Edited March 10 by Lord Marshal

[Chapter Master Valrak]

As people have already stated its probably more like 2.5 but we know Games Workshop would never do that, the whispers are saying that this boxset will deffo be Hours Heresy Third Edition. 

[Xirix]

Dreading the rules change, but maybe it'll be fine... after all, 3rd through 7th were all 'kinda' similar in their own ways, if this isn't 2.5 and is more of an actual new version, here's hoping it's still quite similar overall.

[Cleon]

I'm hoping it's not an indication of a churn, so much as a need for a fix, but yeah, it probably is.

[Taliesin]

  On 3/10/2025 at 3:40 PM, Chapter Master Valrak said:

As people have already stated its probably more like 2.5 but we know Games Workshop would never do that, the whispers are saying that this boxset will deffo be Hours Heresy Third Edition. 

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Did you hear anything about what books, if any, this 3rd edition launch boxset would come with?

[firestorm40k]

  On 3/10/2025 at 2:41 PM, Cyrox said:

Yeah its disappointing to hear that his source says its HH 3.0

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This. Stop making us buy the rules again every 3 years GW 

 

The very least that would make it tolerable would be that if it's more an FAQ'd version of the current rules, that doesn't require those with the current rule book to buy another £40 tome.

[phandaal]

  On 3/10/2025 at 2:25 PM, Fire Golem said:

I’m not happy that Heresy seems to be on the 3 year edition churn, but I’m always happy for a big box of new models. 

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Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic?

[DemonGSides]

My local place still has boxes of AoD kicking around, wonder if they'll print as much of the new box as they seemed to overprint of that old box.

[Valkyrion]

I know all Legions had everything, but the anticipated legions don't really suggest two distinct forces to lean in to different sides of the armoury, so I would imagine it'd be 30 MKII (tacticals for sure, Breachers maybe?), 2 Characters, Sicaran with turret upgrade, Rapiers and maybe a flyer in a box analogous to AoD2.0.

Can't seem them releasing outriders and seekers, for instance, if the box is marked as being Salamanders/Iron Warriors, and there's only really the Sabre of the non super heavy vehicles left to redo in plastic that isn't a flyer. 

 

[Valkyrion]

  On 3/10/2025 at 4:13 PM, phandaal said:

 

Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic?

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In terms of armour types - MKII and MKV, whilst MKIV, Cataphractii and Tartaros could do with an upgrade.

 

In terms of units - Breachers, Outriders, Javelins, Land Speeders, Seekers, Recons (Legion Scouts?), Sabre, Xiphon, Storm Eagle, Fire Raptor, Rapiers, Dreadclaw, Arquitor, Termite, Sicaran options

 

'doable' Centrepiece models - Fellblade, Falchion, Glaive, Kharybdis, Thunderhawk

[Lord Marshal]

  On 3/10/2025 at 4:20 PM, DemonGSides said:

My local place still has boxes of AoD kicking around, wonder if they'll print as much of the new box as they seemed to overprint of that old box.

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AoD wasn't a FOMO box. It's a normal item like in the good ol' days, or it will be until this boxset presumably.

 

  On 3/10/2025 at 4:13 PM, phandaal said:

 

Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic?

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They've still got quite a bit they could push out:

• Mark IV / V
• Rapiers (which may come in this release?)
• Recon Squads / Seekers
• Destroyers
• Breachers
• Arquitors
• Sabres
• Outriders
• Xiphon
• Storm Eagle / Fire Raptors
• Dreadnought Drop Pods
• Deathstorm Drop Pods
• Kharybdis Drop Pods
• Dreadclaw Drop Pods
• Javelin Land Speeders
• Proteus Land Speeders
• Termites
• Fellblades + Variants
• Mastadon
• Missing Sicaran variants.
• Legacies units they could 'return' like the Whirlwind and Basilisks/Medusa.
• Probably stuff I've missed off this list.

That's before getting into the Legion-specifics and non-Marine stuff, which is all largely still resin.

 

Edited March 10 by Lord Marshal

[Robbienw]

  On 3/10/2025 at 4:13 PM, phandaal said:

 

Yeah the models coming out of Horus Heresy are excellent. What all is there still left to release in plastic?

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For marines 3 Sicaran variants, 3 marine superheavies, Sabre, 3 Arquitor variants, Basilisk, Medusa, Rapier platforms, Mk2, 4 and 5 armours (mk7 armour possibly as well), specialised infantry units like Destroyers and Breachers.  Storm Eagles and the Xiphon.  New scale Terminators of all types.  Castaferrum Dreadnougts. All types of speeder.  

 

For SA the Aurox and Carnadon, Lightning, Avenger and Thunderbolt flyers, flamer sections, rapier platforms.

 

For Mechanicum, loads more stuff.

 

For Custodes, nearly everything.

 

For Sisters of Silence, nearly everything. 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 10 by Robbienw

[Redcomet]

If you don’t like 3 year rules cycles, stop supporting it. But big marine boxes are like catnip to the B&C members  :D

[WrathOfTheLion]

  On 3/10/2025 at 3:07 PM, darkhorse0607 said:

Cool for MK2. Boo for Saturnine stuff. Would've much preferred resculpted Cataphractii or Tartaros

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I think resculpted terminators are definitely coming at some point, given they never did plastic weapon upgrade sets for them.

[Matcap86]

Interesting to see if this will be the edition of infantry and specialist units support instead of waves of armour. 

[WARMASTER_]

  On 3/10/2025 at 3:07 PM, darkhorse0607 said:

Cool for MK2. Boo for Saturnine stuff. Would've much preferred resculpted Cataphractii or Tartaros

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It’ll be cool to see some new stuff though if it’s the old terminator design people have started called saturnine I’m less thrilled

 

I have to agree though I’d love to see some updated cataphractii sculpts 

 

we’ll get it all within the next few years but I’m dying to see MKV MKIV 

Edited March 10 by WARMASTER_