Heresy 3.0 in Spring/Summer

[Mr Farson]

The scourge of ghyran for AOS being an extended month long event feels like it could be the big content drop for AOS while that goes quiet for a while.

 

40k has had it's big content drop with some more still to come. Perhaps the last vestiges of get everything else out prior to the summers big release 

[Imriy]

7 hours ago, crimsondave said:

 The book is likely printed in China but if it goes through the UK for packaging it will probably be ok, but I’m not sure how that works.

I believe the tariff only applies to import location, so it should be fine. 

[Matcap86]

Seems someone got the new Lotarra model a tad early.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/236086815774

[Wraith776]

10 hours ago, crimsondave said:

I seriously doubt it.  $32 on a $315 box is noticeable but I can’t see it keeping people willing to spend $300+ away.  GW has been well in the black so they could eat it or share it.  Even if they passed 100% on I think people will buy it regardless.  The book is likely printed in China but if it goes through the UK for packaging it will probably be ok, but I’m not sure how that works.

 

Its not just the 10% though. It also pushes up the costs of operating in the country in other ways.
Their store fronts likely import products from elsewhere as well, sometimes from china or other countries with higher tarrifs. To maintain the same profit margin prices will need to rise by more than 10%.

That or they eat it and don't pass it on, or raise prices everywhere like other companies have done.

They are more insulated though as the bulk of their product comes from the UK.

[Nephaston]

IIrc GW has some local production in the US, so depending on how it's set up they might get tariff'd by packaging and raw materials that would come from outside US/UK.

And even then, at least anecdotally, I know of one person that had tariffs applied to one piece of clothing despite ordering it, and shipping from the UK, said piece was originally made in china and therefore saw the then 125%.

 

Spoiler

https://imgur.com/gallery/tariffs-just-another-tax-on-we-people-089yyte#/t/tariffs

 

 

Either way it seems this might be good on amicus outside of this thread, since it's gonna be a couple of weeks before anything to the actual topic manifests again.

[twopounder]

This isn't the thread to complain about tariffs, its about HH 3.0.

 

In terms of domestic production, GW had manufacturing in the US, but I recall they shut down all of it over 10 years ago. Not sure what insanity convinced them to do that, as the biggest complaint they have is production limitation due to their power grid. Considering that NA is around 40% of their total sales, any price increase you see in HH 3.0 is almost certainly due to them redlining production and releasing everything as a FOMO package. Their webstore is terminally out of stock and I'm betting that the HH 3.0 box set ends up selling out in most places rapidly and FLGS get screwed out of copies.

 

When they can only meet half or less of demand, prices will be high. And that's before scalpers. They shouldn't have closed down their US manufacturing, as that would have very easily taken the strain off the releases for the rest of the world and allowed sustainable production rates.

[Matcap86]

2 hours ago, twopounder said:

This isn't the thread to complain about tariffs, its about HH 3.0.

 

In terms of domestic production, GW had manufacturing in the US, but I recall they shut down all of it over 10 years ago. Not sure what insanity convinced them to do that, as the biggest complaint they have is production limitation due to their power grid. Considering that NA is around 40% of their total sales, any price increase you see in HH 3.0 is almost certainly due to them redlining production and releasing everything as a FOMO package. Their webstore is terminally out of stock and I'm betting that the HH 3.0 box set ends up selling out in most places rapidly and FLGS get screwed out of copies.

 

When they can only meet half or less of demand, prices will be high. And that's before scalpers. They shouldn't have closed down their US manufacturing, as that would have very easily taken the strain off the releases for the rest of the world and allowed sustainable production rates.

 

I mean, I can still get the age of darkness box just fine at my local FLGS and most of the FOMO boxes also stuck around for a bit. Plastic stock seems to be mostly just fine.

 

I also think they're building up stock on the resin stuff for when they actually launch. So people can go kid in a candy store and get all the things they want from the store. 

[Halandaar]

2 hours ago, twopounder said:

In terms of domestic production, GW had manufacturing in the US, but I recall they shut down all of it over 10 years ago. Not sure what insanity convinced them to do that, as the biggest complaint they have is production limitation due to their power grid. Considering that NA is around 40% of their total sales, any price increase you see in HH 3.0 is almost certainly due to them redlining production and releasing everything as a FOMO package. Their webstore is terminally out of stock and I'm betting that the HH 3.0 box set ends up selling out in most places rapidly and FLGS get screwed out of copies.

 

When they can only meet half or less of demand, prices will be high. And that's before scalpers. They shouldn't have closed down their US manufacturing, as that would have very easily taken the strain off the releases for the rest of the world and allowed sustainable production rates.

 

What you have to remember in discussions like this is that GW has the numbers, we do not. 

 

The single highest cost in producing minis is the metal injections molds - having to have two of those for each kit so you can have one on both sides of the Atlantic is an absolutely massive expense, very probably in the millions when you consider how many kits they make. I suspect that is probably the main reason they stopped duplicating production in the US in favour of just importing finished products.

 

Would it be useful in the current situation to have at least some manufacturing on US soil? Sure, but investing tens of millions to set up a production facility from scratch and then nearly doubling the setup cost of every kit in production to avoid a 10% import tariff of dubious longevity doesn't seem like a obvious winner to me.