New Balance Dataslate just dropped

[Metzombie]

9 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

Where was this?  I seem not to have twigged onto this or what they are.

Here

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hajnar5i/quarterly-detachments-new-rules-for-the-tau-empire-orks-and-adeptus-custodes/

Plus one in the Deamon Index for Belakor.

[Nephaston]

12 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

Where was this?  I seem not to have twigged onto this or what they are.

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hajnar5i/quarterly-detachments-new-rules-for-the-tau-empire-orks-and-adeptus-custodes/

for tau, orks, and custodes

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jl3uxdbu/index-chaos-daemons-updated-datasheets-and-a-new-detachment/

for daemons, their new detachment is in the index

[Evil Eye]

GW's obsession with only having models be useable in the "correct" system strikes again I see. Marvellous.

[Karhedron]

4 hours ago, HeadlessCross said:

Which you won't do because they're better off being as cheap as possible. 

 

On the whole I agree but there have been more than a few occasions where I have wished for a bit of melee on my HInts. If only the Sergeant could take a power fist.

Edited 15 hours ago by Karhedron

[WrathOfTheLion]

11 hours ago, Joe said:

• If your Army Faction is World Eaters, you can only include Khorne Legiones Daemonica units using these rules.
• If your Army Faction is Thousand Sons, you can only include Tzeentch Legiones Daemonica units using these rules.
• If your Army Faction is Death Guard, you can only include Nurgle Legiones Daemonica units using these rules.
• If your Warlord is Lucius the Eternal, you can only include Slaanesh Legiones Daemonica units using these rules.

Games Workshop, we need to talk.

Since the Emperor's Children standalone codex isn't out, the current rules in Codex: Chaos Space Marines are the official ones at this moment in time. That'll change in probably a couple weeks, but that's their thought process.

[Tawnis]

Kroot got points cuts again. 

 

At what point do they become so good that the meta chasers just invest an absurd amount of money into a new army? Because at this point I have to assume that's what GW is going for. 

 

The only reason Hunting Pack hasn't won a major event yet, is because so few people play it. The detachment was very strong two data slates ago, I was taking on top tier lists and players with it last data slate after the last mix of nerfs and buffs, and winning more often than not. Now we've got another points cut again. Full Kroot Hunting pack is a very strong and oppressive list in the right hands. 

 

Mark my words, one of the top players is eventually going to invest in this army and handily crush an event. 

[ThePenitentOne]

Man, I gotta build my Kroot and get in on this.

[HeadlessCross]

4 hours ago, Tawnis said:

Kroot got points cuts again. 

 

At what point do they become so good that the meta chasers just invest an absurd amount of money into a new army? Because at this point I have to assume that's what GW is going for. 

 

The only reason Hunting Pack hasn't won a major event yet, is because so few people play it. The detachment was very strong two data slates ago, I was taking on top tier lists and players with it last data slate after the last mix of nerfs and buffs, and winning more often than not. Now we've got another points cut again. Full Kroot Hunting pack is a very strong and oppressive list in the right hands. 

 

Mark my words, one of the top players is eventually going to invest in this army and handily crush an event. 

Kroot lack real firepower even if you decide to use Vespid. Mobility is great but not without killing power behind it. 

 

That Rampagers are just good is another topic. 

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

These constant updates bother me to no end. I get why the do them, but it so hard to keep track of them. A single Chapter Approved book annually compiling FAQS and errata would be sufficient for casual gaming and then these sorts of updates could be included three monthly in a tournament pack they could release for the metachasers and the hyper competitive scene.

Edited 8 hours ago by FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants

[Redcomet]

3 hours ago, FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants said:

These constant updates bother me to no end. I get why the do them, but it so hard to keep track of them. A single Chapter Approved book annually compiling FAQS and errata would be sufficient for casual gaming and then these sorts of updates could be included three monthly in a tournament pack they could release for the metachasers and the hyper competitive scene.

It is a substantial part of why I stopped playing. 

[HeadlessCross]

3 hours ago, FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants said:

These constant updates bother me to no end. I get why the do them, but it so hard to keep track of them. A single Chapter Approved book annually compiling FAQS and errata would be sufficient for casual gaming and then these sorts of updates could be included three monthly in a tournament pack they could release for the metachasers and the hyper competitive scene.

Three months is not "constant updates" objectively. It isn't like these updates are hidden either. 

13 minutes ago, Redcomet said:

It is a substantial part of why I stopped playing. 

Yeah, the old days where armies went years without a balance patch were so much better. 

[Mogger351]

Being in the last 1/3 of the edition, it does feel we're back at the race to the bottom on point values again.

 

Regards casually tracking things, people might not like it but their app is good at automatically updating if you aren't fussed about using a dead tree.

Edited 3 hours ago by Mogger351

[Xenith]

5 hours ago, FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants said:

These constant updates bother me to no end. I get why the do them, but it so hard to keep track of them. A single Chapter Approved book annually compiling FAQS and errata would be sufficient for casual gaming and then these sorts of updates could be included three monthly in a tournament pack they could release for the metachasers and the hyper competitive scene.

 

Come join us in heresy. Only minor faq's in the last 3 years, otherwise rules and balance has largely remained unchanged (somethings unbalanced but moderated by the community). The scale of the update in summer will give an indication as to the type of game. 

[Magos Takatus]

I got about three games out of my Taktikal Brigade before the nerfs came in. Since both the Shokk Attak Gun Mek and the Mek Kaptin have gone up in points, I'll probably have to shed an entire squad from my army, because cutting wargear won't do anything right now.  I mean, it's not as bad as the absolute state the Adeptus Mechanicus was left in for a while, but it does irritate me somewhat. I am glad they at least have Legends rules for Zagstruk, though the lack of synergy with a detachment that suits him perfectly is a bit frustrating.

 

Over all it's not the end of the world for me personally, but it's a bit annoying that I barely get time to play any games to learn to use this new detachment and they are already fiddling with it.