Warhammer Preview AdeptiCon 2025

[TheMawr]

12 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

It'll be adepticon, no worry.

 

Boxset has never before been revealed as "early" as adepticon though.

 

Last 3 adepticons had new edition features, but very limited miniature content.. And each of them was a big rule feature because they where all reset editions.

So at this point we dont know if they plan to announce all editions this early or just the big reset editions... This is the first chance to get to know this. 

 

Even then the box set contents Where may/June.. if they show the box This adepticon it would be a first.

 

What i mean is, even if HH is completely absent, it doesnt necessarily break "patterns" nor does it mean HH 3.0 doesnt happen. If they do tease HH 3.0 but show nothing it slightly adjusts the past 3 year pattern, but  "Patterns" are only broken if they actually do show the boxset.

[Ammonius]

17 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

I was wondering about the Tyranid kill team.. what about rippers ?  swarms or not, could see them part of a kill team with an interesting mechanic

It's probably the caffeine speaking, but when I read this I imagined a Rippers Vs Nurglings box set with a scenario booklet for swarm vs. swarm games and how to use swarms vs other Kill Teams. 

Imagine a vicious battle in the bilges of a space hulk or the literal guts of a Hive-ship where "normal" sized operatives couldn't even fit.

[Mr Farson]

Assuming the box set for 30k is true they're going to have to plug in another show in April at this rate.

 

The next show should be mid May and that's probably not a big enough gap for the usual edition launch marketing to run it's course until the summer.

[TheMawr]

6 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

This may not be Volkus Q4 tho.
Instead, it may be this edition's equivalent to Ashes of Faith i.e. a "Campaign" Box.

I mostly meant it isnt next seasons Q1. Being an ashes of faith equivalent is always possible.. In such a case there likely wouldnt be new Tyranids at all ( just like ashes of faith had nothing new on the chaos side. ) and that would explain  no tyranid RE.

 

But personally ( though subjectively and wishfully) I do think its Volkus Q4.. I see no reason it wouldnt be Except maybe that Tyranids might be considered by the dev team work better as a "game mode" rather than a regular kill team.

 

The "quickness" of preview has little influence here :

B&C was previewed ( 5-10-2024 ) 2 weeks after Hivestorm went on pre order. ( 21 - 9 - 2024 )

Termination was previewed ( 21-3-2024 ) 2 weeks BEFORE Nightmare went on pre order ( 6-4-2024 )

Nightmare preview was spreaded out both before and after Salvation. And this is a quick look back, I know the gallowdark season has similar weird dates.

Kill team ( like WHU and Warcry) always has been a bit weird like that ( not just ashes of faith)

[phandaal]

2 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

"In fact the Warhammer we'll be covering is so new that we've had to get a Tech-Priest to approve the data slate..."

 

Between that and the Tyranid terrain, sounds like a sneaky tease about the KT rumour. Or I'm reading too much into it.

 

 

They are obviously talking about the newest full faction - the Leagues of Votann. Prepare yourself for a dozen new units, a new codex with brand new John Blanche artwork, and a brand new Space Gotrek and Space Felix series written by William King himself.

[Rain]

1 minute ago, phandaal said:

 

They are obviously talking about the newest full faction - the Leagues of Votann. Prepare yourself for a dozen new units, a new codex with brand new John Blanche artwork, and a brand new Space Gotrek and Space Felix series written by William King himself.

Or, failing that, one new model that looks a little bit like Shrek in Starcraft armor. Either, or.

[silverstu]

1 hour ago, TheMawr said:

 

Its almost a "pity" the tyranid planet rumor will likely turn out to be Volkus Q4... on my train commute home I was mentally preparing posting an entire theorizing part of a whole season of kill team basically following this as a background setting and using those stage names as boxes ( even if only 1 has an actual tyranid kill team ) : https://web.archive.org/web/20190709123112/https://regimental-standard.com/2017/11/01/the-stage-by-stage-guide-to-tyranid-infestation/ ( though ofcourse the best non-tyranid teams for a box named consumption would be Ratlings vs Kroot, missed oppurtunities and all that.) alas, that ship now sails.

 

I was wondering about the Tyranid kill team.. what about rippers ?  swarms or not, could see them part of a kill team with an interesting mechanic ( though likely the team itself would have larger nids in there and in such a case it would possibly be one of those expandable teams with 40k kits like ogres for ratlings, blades of khaine, and both sides of Ashes of faith.)

I was thinking if the new kit is Shrikes they might bring back sky slashers .. we need more rippers in my opinion !

[Mostwanted]

2 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

Nice little bit of terrain! Good to see a callback to the old FW brood nest, too.

This looks so much better than what they have just shown. I love the idea of GW doing dedicated Tyranid terrain but the detailing on this new peice looks terrible to me. I really hope whatever else they show looks better.

[Tastyfish]

1 hour ago, TheMawr said:

I mostly meant it isnt next seasons Q1. Being an ashes of faith equivalent is always possible.. In such a case there likely wouldnt be new Tyranids at all ( just like ashes of faith had nothing new on the chaos side. ) and that would explain  no tyranid RE.

 

But personally ( though subjectively and wishfully) I do think its Volkus Q4.. I see no reason it wouldnt be Except maybe that Tyranids might be considered by the dev team work better as a "game mode" rather than a regular kill team.

 

It did sound a bit like everything was going to a bit a more 'stand alone' rather than so heavily grouped into themed seasons around a type of terrain in the recent WarCom article. Wouldn't surprise me to see that this announcement is going to say that things are going to be more like 'Ashes of Faith' style releases in the future rather than the Gallowdark/Beta Decima era.

 

"Each new mission pack will be thematic and exciting, and you will be able to play them with any team. They will provide completely new ways to play, including new components. This might mean plastic terrain, additional card decks, and even models from Warhammer 40,000 used in specific missions as unique NPO* enemies. We plan to expand on head-to-head, co-op and solo play, too, so each new Battle Box will add further new ways to play. "

[Archaeinox]

21 minutes ago, Mostwanted said:

This looks so much better than what they have just shown.

 

The plastic one on WarCom today reminds me of an RTS level editor where you hold and drag the topography upwards. It seems lazy and uninspired compared to some of their other bases (Deathleaper, and the Tomb Kings Necrolith Bone Dragon). 

 

A friend of mine hopes we will get a tyranid shrike warrior KT. That'd be cool.

 

 

[TheMawr]

23 minutes ago, Tastyfish said:

 

It did sound a bit like everything was going to a bit a more 'stand alone' rather than so heavily grouped into themed seasons around a type of terrain in the recent WarCom article. Wouldn't surprise me to see that this announcement is going to say that things are going to be more like 'Ashes of Faith' style releases in the future rather than the Gallowdark/Beta Decima era.

 

"Each new mission pack will be thematic and exciting, and you will be able to play them with any team. They will provide completely new ways to play, including new components. This might mean plastic terrain, additional card decks, and even models from Warhammer 40,000 used in specific missions as unique NPO* enemies. We plan to expand on head-to-head, co-op and solo play, too, so each new Battle Box will add further new ways to play. "

 

You are misinterpreting that quote. The mission packs are an additional thing added to each battle box, they are not replacing the battle box format. It already started in Blood and Zeal. Its the first sentence of the text above the one you quoted. 

 

 

 

Edit : 

How i interpret it is for example, lets call the box Hivefall, Hivefall box comes with 2 teams, like usual, and a central pièce or pièces of terrain.. The Hivefall Dossier goes on with the narrative Where blood and zeal ended. ( however your teams are regular Kill teams, they dont necessarily represent the 2 teams fighting in the narrative, as is usual for kill team.) Hivefall also comes with the Tyranid terrain and its appropiate rules... so far its the usual offering.

 

however the new addition is the mission pack, this time its not an optional card mechanic like blood and zeal, but a new game mode losely tied  thematically to Hivefalls contents: A co-op Tyranid invasion ( wich we already got in WD i think ? ) there are some cards and tokens for this as well. 

 

After Hivefall comes the set Soulbane, a season set on a fallen exodite world, first set is Ynnari+ ghostly exodites vs A grey knight team of the 4th brotherhood.. all is business as usual for battleboxes but the mission pack comes with a new game mechanic usable with other teams in other settings : Haunted warzones. Etc etc.   

 

but again its just my interpretation

Edited March 24 by TheMawr

[Tastyfish]

20 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

 

You are misinterpreting that quote. The mission packs are an additional thing added to each battle box, they are not replacing the battle box format. It already started in Blood and Zeal. Its the first sentence of the text above the one you quoted. 

 

 

No I mean that there will be less of a throughline across the new sets. More random individual storylines rather than slowly building up more bits for Gallowdark or Beta Decima terrain. The new sets may or may not be set on Volkus or being focused across the various "flash points" of the 40K galaxy, and whilst they may come with terrain - something like Brutal and Cunning's fortifications being designed to work with the previous set being the odd ones out rather than something to expect.

 

[edit] Sounds like we're on the same page, though I can certainly see them being split in two depending on how many need cards, which seem to only being produced with the battleboxes if Blood and Zeal is the new model. 

 

 

Edited March 24 by Tastyfish

[TheMawr]

7 minutes ago, Tastyfish said:

No I mean that there will be less of a throughline across the new sets. More random individual storylines rather than slowly building up more bits for Gallowdark or Beta Decima terrain. The new sets may or may not be set on Volkus or being focused across the various "flash points" of the 40K galaxy, and whilst they may come with terrain - something like Brutal and Cunning's fortifications being designed to work with the previous set being the odd ones out rather than something to expect.

 

 

 

Ohh in that way, sorry. Yeah i thought it was already kind of obvious a while ago with volkus this was abandoned.. I think there was even a mention about it on warcom that this season would not do that ?  

 

But if it was in response to me pitieing we didnt have an entire season on a Tyranid planet ( I think the only place Where i refer such a themed terrain format ) Its because I could see them hopping back to it just as easily, you never know with GW.

 

When valrak mentioned the (uncertain) exodite rumor i was wondering if it was a sign of GW "cheaply" going with old terrain next season: the eldritch ruins series of terrain released during gathering storm , and them re using the SoB shrine makes me think there is a possibility for that still. But that likely goes beyond the adepticon preview. And again, its true.. they abandoned themed terrain now and it might indeed not return.

[Tokugawa]

On 3/24/2025 at 8:13 AM, Tokugawa said:

And patrol boxes. Usually 10th patrol boxes have worse discount than earlier products, but for DG collectors anything which don't contain 30 poxwalkers would bring better purchase value.

Valrak rumor says new DG patrol box includes LoV, Tallyman, 1 PM squad, 1 Deathshroud squad, 1 Rhino.

 

DG players: we have most unique and most complete models range among all chaos factions.

 

GW: I still can sell 20+ years old kits to you!

[Alby the Slayer]

In this picture of the new piece of terrain, on the right of the skull, it appears to be a space marine terminator helmet, in the process of being assimilated by the structure?

 

So maybe assault terminator against nids kt box?

 

 

 

 

[Nephaston]

16 minutes ago, Alby the Slayer said:

In this picture of the new piece of terrain, on the right of the skull, it appears to be a space marine terminator helmet, in the process of being assimilated by the structure?

 

So maybe assault terminator against nids kt box?

 

 

That is so subtle I didn't even notice at first.

[HeadlessCross]

Just now, Nephaston said:

 

That is so subtle I didn't even notice at first.

I can see the vague resemblance, but I'm not so sure it's actually a helmet. 

[N1SB]

15 hours ago, Joe said:

 

18 hours ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

 

 

I saw the Tyranids-themed terrain and aaaaah accidental alliteration aaaaaah I did it again, but I was thinking of Advanced Space Crusade.

Advanced Space Crusade took place inside Tyranid hive ships, the board was like giant Tyranid stomachs and the terrain was like organs.

 

Also, ew, but it's good ew.  Like you could put that Nurgle slime technical paint in the holes and stuff for extra ew.

[Cyrox]

I'd love a new Space Crusade, but alas I think the rights are now owned by someone else.

 

A new Warhammer Quest game thats just like Space Crusade, but not called that, would be awesome!

[ZeroWolf]

23 minutes ago, Cyrox said:

I'd love a new Space Crusade, but alas I think the rights are now owned by someone else.

 

A new Warhammer Quest game thats just like Space Crusade, but not called that, would be awesome!

I think Hasbro has the rights, at least to the name but so much is tied to 40k that they know they can't pull a Heroquest with it

[Cyrox]

6 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

I think Hasbro has the rights, at least to the name but so much is tied to 40k that they know they can't pull a Heroquest with it

 

AFAIK it's Prodos Games now, but you are quite correct but they only really own the name of the game, GW still own the rights to stuff like 'Genestealers' and all the other cool stuff.

[grailkeeper]

No Blood Bowl is unexpected. GW has been releasing teams every 6 months and the last team was 6 months ago. 

[Evil Eye]

2 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

I think Hasbro has the rights, at least to the name but so much is tied to 40k that they know they can't pull a Heroquest with it

I won't lie, if Hasbro (or anyone else) did a serial-numbers-filed-off Space Crusade with an original setting and models that clearly homaged their roots whilst still being new designs ("Cosmic Commandos versus Xenosaurs") I'd be down for that. Assuming the models were good anyway, I heard the Heroquest models were made of horrifically rubbery plastic and I'll be honest I was not a fan of the designs.

[ZeroWolf]

4 minutes ago, Evil Eye said:

I won't lie, if Hasbro (or anyone else) did a serial-numbers-filed-off Space Crusade with an original setting and models that clearly homaged their roots whilst still being new designs ("Cosmic Commandos versus Xenosaurs") I'd be down for that. Assuming the models were good anyway, I heard the Heroquest models were made of horrifically rubbery plastic and I'll be honest I was not a fan of the designs.

Definitely weren't the best quality of miniatures that Hasbro. I'd also love a new Space Crusade that captured the spirit of the old.

[TheMawr]

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

Definitely weren't the best quality of miniatures that Hasbro. I'd also love a new Space Crusade that captured the spirit of the old.

 

Wich one ? Im not very familiar with the tyranid heavy Advanced spacecrusade.. but wouldnt that be easy to do for GW with existing kits ? Space crusade ( or Star quest as it was called here.) has one key element ( well it was key to me, dont know about others.) that I dont see GW do with their miniatures : switchable pushfit weapons, I figure it would also stand in the way of the quality of the miniatures.. though to be honest, if I remember correctly we hardly switched them once a desired configuration was found  Though I think I would go with 3 5man scout squads for the player side.

 

More on topic, I already posted this on another forum before the weekend, but this image is the actual kit reveals past 3 adepticons ( the upper row needs some explanation ) :

 

The upper row represents the teasers etc.

2022 was trailer for HH2.0, a look into new rules and a single spacemarine (could be the spacemarine captain from the trailer was also shown.. not sure.) and a teaser for chaos cultists release.
2023 was trailer for 40k 10th edition, a look into new rules and a single terminator and single gaunt. also the first tease of the CoS troops for AoS and a HH book.
2024 was trailer for AoS 4th edition, a look into new rules and no miniatures, and teasers for HH admech ( a very light teaser.) and the Necromunda box.

 

The bottom 3 rows is in order : AoS family of games, 40k family of games and FW/SGS family of games. 

Coincidentally the regular previews represent 6 releases per adepticon ( I dont think its a pattern.)

2022 : WHU Q4 box, Nighthaunt BT, Thondia campaign, Chaos knights codex, Blood bowl team & Ash wastes box  ( 9 miniature kits and 4 "terrain" kits total )
2023 : WHU Q4 box, Seraphon BT, Bonereapers BT, Soulblight BT, Arks of Omen the Lion & Kill team Q4 box ( 10 miniature kits and 1 "terrain" kit total )

2024 : WHU Q4 box, Warcry Q4 box, AoS chaos campaign book, Chaos Spacemarines codex, Kill team Q4 box and TOW dwarves ( 12 miniature kits and 3 "terrain" kits total )

( for amount of kits I use their final "form" not the boxsets they are presented as at the show.)

 

Not that it all means anything, GW is too random for that. But I like making these analysises myself. :)

 

With that said I wonder if the 3 chaos releases ( WE, DG and TS ) from a preview pov will be treated as a single preview or as 3 seperate ones... I could see it either way, if the latter I dont expect much else from 40k apart from probably a teaser. But if the former I really could see them adding a second 40k focus preview... grey knights as a "counter" to the chaos ones or chaos knights as a completion of them. Though it would be a rather high expectation.