Kill Team 2024 Kill Team: Typhon

[INKS]

I have to say the negativity for the Ad mech on reddit is overwhelming. they are really upset with this box and I can't love it enough. Odd how I always seem to find myself at odds with the popular opinion. lol

 

someone was claiming that the servitors are all copy pasted from the Inquisition Gun servitor... so I had a look. Nope. Actually all 8 bodies are different from each other. no copies. i get that they kinda look the same, it has the same feel but they are all different.

[Robbienw]

Reddit is not representative of public opinion!

[Antarius]

4 minutes ago, Robbienw said:

Reddit is not representative of public opinion!

Indeed. Plus, every release will be met with different opinions and the negative opinions are usually the loudest (which is not to say that they are necessarily wrong or even in the minority, but they do tend to be the loudest and most hyperbolic). So, depending on what community you’re in, the perception of public opinion might vary wildly.

 

Personally, I like the servitors, even if I wouldn’t have minded them being more grimdark-zombie-like, I think they fit the established servitor aesthetic well enough. I am somewhat curious about the specialists, though. My perception of servitors was that they can do advanced tasks, but only if they don’t require actual intelligence to perform, so I think it’s going to be interesting to see how they explain those.

[lhg033]

14 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

They said on the stream a unit of gaunts were included for the pve mode.

 

So I agree, more expensive box but I am personally hyped for this.

 

 

Sold!!

 

My birthday present recently was a box of Hormogaunts (and a Hive Tyrant) and already thinking at least another will be needed to create the endless tide. If there will be some here I may hold off and be forced to get this instead - it will be a saving so it just makes sense.......

 

At this rate my Nids may end up outnumbering my Orks!

 

[apologist]

Thought I'd copy the images for the Servitors here, for reference, and add a few thoughts.

I like both of these techpriests; though with some slight reservations. The Technoarcheologist is a lovely model, so while I would have liked to have seen a new model in this box, certainly don't object to its presence.

 

I'm less immediately impressed with the Servitor Underseer. It appears nice enough from this angle, but after seeing it described as 'spare bits from other, better Mechanicus models', I can't help but see it as a bit... unrefined? I'll reserve judgement until I have the Underseer in hand – I suspect it may be one of those models that looks better in-person.

 

There are some nice bits – the face is very cool, and I suspect as I've got one of the Technoarcheologists, perhaps I'll use the head from the Underseer on the other techpriest.

 

I like these models. If you'd told me that a Servitor Kill Team was coming out, these are exactly what I would have expected given the two recent plastic models, X-101 from Combat Patrol and the one from the Inquisitorial Kill Team (pictured below). I prefer the robotic feet of these new ones to the Inquisitorial version, and like the slightly chunkier overall feel – they're more like X-101. who is a cool model.

 

  

 

The poses are predictably solid, and assuming the heads are on a ball joint, could be canted slightly to give a more vacant expression – which is what I suspect I'll do, to give a more mindless feel. I am expecting a couple of other weapon options, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some alternative heads and possibly arms.

 

 

The specialists are cool; I think it likely that these will be able to be built as standard servitors, too – and perhaps that's why these are more divisive. I do see where the criticism of them looking a bit too collected/capable/conscious is coming from... The Auto-proxy in particular does look as 'present' as a Skitarii models, but I think that's got to be a matter of balancing making a striking model with reflecting the background. The background on Servitors has always been a bit vague – they're usually depicted as completely mindless, but then that's rather incompatible with what they're capable of; particularly those serving in combat. The Servitors term seems to cover everything from the utterly mind-wiped to those that retain some mental capacity (albeit firmly shepherded), so I don't object to some of these specialists looking more conscious – particularly in the presence of a Techpriest giving direction in a Combat Situation.

 

So while I like the old drooling gun Servitor (pictured below, right), I'm not sure a whole Killteam of them would have looked good – and if the team had been more mixed, with minor Techpriests in these specialist positions, it dilutes the box's secondary purpose as a Servitor box. In the particular case of the auto-proxy, which I'm assuming is a node for Techpriest communication, a more conscious look seems fitting.

 

 

Given the commercial balance coming down as it has, I can see why they've leaned more to the other historical expression (of grim determination, shown on the Servitor above left) though I think it's a shame that all seem to have half- or full-masks and be scowling. I hope – though with little expectation – that there are some alternative heads with a slack-jawed, vacant expression so we can dot a couple in alongside the more aggressive versions.

 

A bit of an unfortunate angle on the picture here, I think, given that it seems the weapons are the main distinguishing feature of these.

 

Again, nice and solid, if predictable. All the bodies in the preview all have unique detailing, which suggests a single larger sprue rather than duplicates of a smaller one. That in turn suggests just eight servitors are included on a sprue alongside the Underseer; rather than the Underseer being on a separate small sprue, perhaps alongside the Kill Team upgrades.

 

Overall, I think these could have been pushed a little further, but I'm certainly not unhappy with the release. Since I have little interest in the Tyranid side of the box, I'll likely look to pick these up in a box split.

[CL_Mission]

8 minutes ago, apologist said:

Given the commercial balance coming down as it has, I can see why they've leaned more to the other historical expression (of grim determination, shown on the Servitor above left) though I think it's a shame that all seem to have half- or full-masks and be scowling. I hope – though with little expectation – that there are some alternative heads with a slack-jawed, vacant expression so we can dot a couple in alongside the more aggressive versions.

I don't have them myself but it turns out the Sanctifier Kill Team came with a bunch of spare head GW didn't show off at all, including one for the leader that looks pretty cool from the picture in the instructions so there is some hope, a couple of vacant/less with it heads would be pretty nice. Still, the more I look at the servitors the more I like them, will certainly try to get a hold of them for one project or another.

[Jscarlos18]

I'm really digging the Raveners and terrain. Cool to see all the unique strains the squad has. My favourite has to be the Prime with the weird fin replacing the standard elongated horn of the Winged Tyranid Prime and Hive Tyrant.

 

While the unit is most probably going to be added to the app and 11th edition codex eventually, I hope Typhon's terrain also becomes avaliable to buy separately.

 

Next units in need of a refresh should be Gargoyles and Tyranid Warriors.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

4 hours ago, Antarius said:

Indeed. Plus, every release will be met with different opinions and the negative opinions are usually the loudest (which is not to say that they are necessarily wrong or even in the minority, but they do tend to be the loudest and most hyperbolic). So, depending on what community you’re in, the perception of public opinion might vary wildly.

 

Personally, I like the servitors, even if I wouldn’t have minded them being more grimdark-zombie-like, I think they fit the established servitor aesthetic well enough. I am somewhat curious about the specialists, though. My perception of servitors was that they can do advanced tasks, but only if they don’t require actual intelligence to perform, so I think it’s going to be interesting to see how they explain those.

Servitors needed to be different for the sake of being different because it is a different game. This is the way GW thinks. You cannot even have a rule in 30K, 40K and Legions Imperialis with the same name (e.g. Rapid Fire) which also describes the same mechanic. Simply VERBOTEN! 

[Antarius]

21 hours ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

First make sure how large the terrain is. I suspect it to be tiny.

There's a skull at the base of two of the terrain pieces (the bottom right ones), so it should be possible to estimate the size from that:

Edited Friday at 12:42 PM by Antarius

[INKS]

FYI about the servitors. they have 8 different bodies, legs and heads. who knows how many different arms. so while they look very much the same they aren't actually. they do remind me more of borg but they have always reminded me of that personally even if that isn't how they are in the lore.

[firestorm40k]

5 hours ago, Antarius said:

There's a skull at the base of two of the terrain pieces (the bottom right ones), so it should be possible to estimate the size from that:

Indeed - I reckon they're all taller than a standard infantry miniature, ideal to hide behind in Kill Team. If you're wanting something that'll obscure a big tank or a Knight, these aren't going to be the size for that. 

[Cleon]

I like the box as a whole for 40k, I can't say either concept appeals to me as an actual kill team. I will probably try to pick up the box, but I won't be overly upset if it sells out before I do.

[Mogger351]

24 minutes ago, firestorm40k said:

Indeed - I reckon they're all taller than a standard infantry miniature, ideal to hide behind in Kill Team. If you're wanting something that'll obscure a big tank or a Knight, these aren't going to be the size for that. 

Not even that big:

 

[marspeople]

I hope the Raveners will get updated rules to use all their fancy new gear in the regular game.

I assume they will as they are also changing squad size from a 3-6 man squad to a flat 5 man seemingly. 

[Akylas]

Usually these GW dual boxes always have one warband/team I'm not interested in that prevents me from buying them. This time I love the ravenors, and at least like all the admech guys.

[Cleon]

7 hours ago, marspeople said:

I hope the Raveners will get updated rules to use all their fancy new gear in the regular game.

I assume they will as they are also changing squad size from a 3-6 man squad to a flat 5 man seemingly. 

 

I assume they are staying 3-6 as there are six shown in the preview, as I understand it you can only pick five at a time for a game of kill team.

[marspeople]

27 minutes ago, Cleon said:

 

I assume they are staying 3-6 as there are six shown in the preview, as I understand it you can only pick five at a time for a game of kill team.

I looks like there are only going to be 5 in the new box / on the sprue though. The warcom article is confusing but one looks duplicated. And they say there are only 5.

I am kinda confused as to whether we get 5 or 6 tbh. But if it is only 5 the unit size will for sure change.

 

Edit : Seems for sure to be a 5 man (snake) squad. That means the 40k squad size will change accordingly.

Edited Saturday at 07:50 AM by marspeople

[Nephaston]

It is 5, but it shows six because one is the default warrior which all can be built into, while the remaining 5 are the specialists that replace a warrior each.

[Tastyfish]

The video had a horizontal shot that gives you an even better idea on the size of the terrain, it is quite a bit smaller than you might expect.

[Doghouse]

I like Kill Team for the models that can add more models representing more granular aspects of the 40k universe but neither of these really appeal to me. I can't quite put my finger on it but the Servitors feel a bit off to me, I think I would be more inclined to convert the Horus Heresy versions. I echo some of the comments that these feel a bit too muscle bound spec ops but to be fair I can see why the ad mech wouldn't send frail looking units into a Kill Team scenario and utilize maybe Astartes or failed aspirants for a unit like this.

 

 But then again I am not really a Kill Team player and look at models through the lens of a 40k player.

[Urauloth]

Absolutely love the AdMech team. Already sizing up where to add spikes to the various models as soon as I can get hold of them.