Space Wolves refresh

[Tokugawa]

  On 3/28/2025 at 3:32 AM, Marshal Rohr said:

The more I look at the blood claws the madder I get. Imagine if they’d just don’t a bigger mark 7 instead of the primaris BS. We’d have all been rabid over it. What a waste. 

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If HH keep developing, it would expand its story and product line to 32K~35K someday in the future. 

 

If you are fans of old marks power armor,to buy more HH products may help new-scaled mk7 arrive sooner.

[Wispy]

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:53 PM, Dark Shepherd said:

Ulric is plastic I think? Most of the other characters in danger are resin sic

Super easy to have that Priest kit dual build

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Ulrik is indeed plastic. Came out with Curse of the Wulfen in 2016. Not to hard to kitbash him to Primaris scale if you're really intent on that - I combined him with the Indomitus Chaplain to great success.

[lonewolf81]

According to the datasheet blurry images in warcom grey hunters have the assault intercessor ability and bloodclaws have something else charge related looks like advance and charge fall back and charge

Edited Friday at 05:19 AM by lonewolf81

[Alby the Slayer]

Can't wait to see the lore, the, I hope, new artworks in the new codex!

 

Also I hope there will be space for some Wolfspear transfer sheets in the new boxes.

[sbarnby71]

I painted my first Space Wolf, 36 years ago, well before any SW bits and bobs existed and apart from some gaps when I was not into the hobby and doing a Skaven army, I have been Wolves all the way.  I'm not a player, I just love to build them!

 

I think we did well here, we got a lot of updates/sculpts so I'm happy that I will have new models to convert for years to come.  The priest is top notch, that hooded wolf hem, yes, yes, yes + 2 other heads and that unicorn horn blade, oh yes!. The Wolf Guard again, great models, furs and beefy look to them.  Then the Grey Hunters and Blood Claws have enough going on and a few new poses, so great.  And wow did we get a lot of new heads and Helms, now I feel spoilt!

 

The bits that that left me feeling a little, "oh, that's a bit of a shame" were the detailing on the weapons, if you take the axes, they have a sort of wolf head and a single Rune on them, where as we used to get weapons dripping with Wolf Heads, Runes, etc.  Same goes for the shields, a few runes compared to the runes all around the shield.  As I convert everything I build, it's not a big issue as I will bling my Axes, Swords & Shields and it leaves more space for me to do that.

 

I'm glad the Fenrisian Wolves poses got an update as the old ones just looked stupid-dumb, but they still look off to me (as others have said it), they look wet, like a dog that's been in the stream, then shook it's self off.  Wolves can be shaggy without being raggedy.

 

Based on the Wolf Guard, I have very high hopes for the Terminators to come.

 

I do feel for folks who have different armies and GW are not being fair with the amount of goodies each army is getting.  The Primaris upgrade process has been slow and painful, but compared to when I started painting when almost no Chapter specific sculpts existed, we're no doing to bad as a hobby.

[crimsondave]

  On 3/28/2025 at 6:08 AM, Alby the Slayer said:

Can't wait to see the lore, the, I hope, new artworks in the new codex!

 

Also I hope there will be space for some Wolfspear transfer sheets in the new boxes.

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Us Dark Angels, and I imagine the Blood Angels, would tell you good luck on the new lore and new art.  Don’t hold your breath.

[Karhedron]

I am curious about which units the Wolf Priest will be able to join. Will he be able to join the same units as a Chaplain or an Apothecary since he will apparently have both sets of rules. He would be very powerful in a squad of Headhunters or BGVs as the combo of +1 to Wound and bringing back a dead 3W 4++ model each turn is pretty strong!

 

I still have a Indomitus Chaplain kicking around. If I use one of the spare heads from the Wolf Priest and a few extra bits of bling, I can have 2 Wolf Priests running around! I like that idea quite a lot!

[Joe]

I'm curious about long-term additions to the range moving forward. The below is a loose collation of the rumours Valrak shared, but there's other stuff I suspect will pop up in 11E and beyond. A new Rune Priest seems certain, as do the likes of Skyclaws or Longfangs in the long term. I wouldn't put it past them to fix the Wulfen models either. Definitely some exciting times ahead, and I'm glad I was buying up Space Wolves bits last year. 

• new Logan Grimnar (as previously mentioned), no longer on sled, larger base alongside some Fenrisian Wolves
• new Njal Stormcaller
• new Arjac Rockfist
• new generic Wolf Priest, unclear on loadout / armour
• new Space Wolf Lieutenant model (multiple weapon options)
• new HQ / Elite Guard unit (Bladeguard-styled, but with Fenrisian wolves)
• new Wolf Scouts (also with a Fenrisian wolf attached)
• new Terminator Wolf Guard unit (similar to Deathwing Knights)
• new Blood Claws
• new Grey Hunters

[Ehfull]

  On 3/28/2025 at 5:04 AM, lonewolf81 said:

According to the datasheet blurry images in warcom grey hunters have the assault intercessor ability and bloodclaws have something else charge related looks like advance and charge fall back and charge

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Auspex tactics come at the same conclusion as you. 

And he thinks they got wrong on live it's seem to be the grey hunter who get the reroll wounds on 1/full on obj.
He says the sergeant GH seems to get a power fist or axe as option.

[phandaal]

  On 3/28/2025 at 10:15 AM, crimsondave said:

Us Dark Angels, and I imagine the Blood Angels, would tell you good luck on the new lore and new art.  Don’t hold your breath.

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"Lol he's back or whatever IDK what you wanted, also he teleports through tree space now lol." - The decades-teased return of Lion El'Jonson, Primarch of the Dark Angels.

 

It would be appropriate for the rivalry though, if Space Wolves got awesome new lore instead. Just one more grudge to settle between the chapters. 

[Deschenus Maximus]

  On 3/27/2025 at 10:54 PM, Wispy said:

Unfortunate but expected. Delighted they prioritized keeping their chainswords with carbines and keeping the True Grit tradition alive, however. Was worried Grey Hunters just becoming furry intercessors. 

 

I suppose at some point GW changes their mind about this and creates a special weapon upgrade sprue for all space marines like Heresy does but not today.

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My cynical ass thinks they're just replaying the old Tactical Squad playbook:

1st Mk7 Tac Squad only had a flamer and missile launcher in it

2nd one had flamer/melta/plasma 

and final one had flamer/melta/plasma/gravgun in it

[WARMASTER_]

I’ve just realised why I love the Bloodclaw’s so much their legs are basically MKVII they look so clean! god I wish we got full sized MKVII sculpts soon 

[Moonstalker]

  On 3/28/2025 at 2:44 PM, Deschenus Maximus said:

 

My cynical ass thinks they're just replaying the old Tactical Squad playbook:

1st Mk7 Tac Squad only had a flamer and missile launcher in it

2nd one had flamer/melta/plasma 

and final one had flamer/melta/plasma/gravgun in it

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I'm not particularly happy to see the special weapons go, but in the grand scheme of things I don't know that they will be particularly missed?  One or two special weapons in a 10 man squad doesn't have too much impact.  In the past it may have added a little extra dimension, like meltaguns for tank busting, but numbers-wise I think the increased shots in the rest of the squad probably comes pretty close to making up the loss of special weapons.  Back in 4th/5th-ish era, when competitive wolves were 6 man MSU in a razorback with like one or two special weapons and a combiweapon, the specials made up a lot more of the squad's firepower, losing those specials would've mattered way more.

 

Mathematically, the 3 shot bolters will probably be good enough for anti-infantry to make up for not having a plasma gun sprinkled in the squad.  A single meltagun isn't a huge threat to a tank anymore (no more 2d6 for pen and then +1 on the table for AP1, or whatever it was).  But they still added a little flavor and variety to the squad, and I'm sad to see them go.

[crimsondave]

  On 3/28/2025 at 11:33 AM, phandaal said:

 

"Lol he's back or whatever IDK what you wanted, also he teleports through tree space now lol." - The decades-teased return of Lion El'Jonson, Primarch of the Dark Angels.

 

It would be appropriate for the rivalry though, if Space Wolves got awesome new lore instead. Just one more grudge to settle between the chapters. 

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“YES!!!  He’s back!!!  Take my money!  All my money!  Just direct deposit my check into the GW general fund!  Wait, what?  Tree space?  Huh?  Okay, okay.  Tree space.  Got it.  So now what?  Hello?  Hello?!  Man I’m tired of Ramen noodles.”  - every 1st Legion fan.

 

Seriously though.  If they care (hahaha) about the lore, they owe Mike Brooks big time for making that silliness work.

 

I hope the SWs get some new lore.  Would be nice if it actually progressed something instead of starting yet another story to do nothing with.

[Deschenus Maximus]

  On 3/28/2025 at 4:42 PM, Moonstalker said:

 

I'm not particularly happy to see the special weapons go, but in the grand scheme of things I don't know that they will be particularly missed?  One or two special weapons in a 10 man squad doesn't have too much impact.  In the past it may have added a little extra dimension, like meltaguns for tank busting, but numbers-wise I think the increased shots in the rest of the squad probably comes pretty close to making up the loss of special weapons.  Back in 4th/5th-ish era, when competitive wolves were 6 man MSU in a razorback with like one or two special weapons and a combiweapon, the specials made up a lot more of the squad's firepower, losing those specials would've mattered way more.

 

Mathematically, the 3 shot bolters will probably be good enough for anti-infantry to make up for not having a plasma gun sprinkled in the squad.  A single meltagun isn't a huge threat to a tank anymore (no more 2d6 for pen and then +1 on the table for AP1, or whatever it was).  But they still added a little flavor and variety to the squad, and I'm sad to see them go.

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It's more a question of style more than anything. I hate this Aspect Warriorisation of the Space Marines. They're supposed to be the ultimate generalists. Losing their special weapons goes against that.

[TheNicronomicon]

No other unit has retained special weapons, so why would anyone think that would change here? The special weapons seemed to synergize with the firing platform in the Rhino, which GW is clearly killing off. If the designers see those two things as linked then it makes perfect sense why it was done. This exact wildly off-topic subject has derailed several threads already; not sure what else there is to be said about the special weapons at this point.

[Harald Fairmane]

  On 3/28/2025 at 7:16 PM, TheNicronomicon said:

No other unit has retained special weapons,

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Except for the Primaris Crusader Squad which can take a flamer 

Edited Friday at 09:20 PM by Harald Fairmane

[Nephaston]

  On 3/28/2025 at 6:11 PM, Deschenus Maximus said:

 

It's more a question of style more than anything. I hate this Aspect Warriorisation of the Space Marines. They're supposed to be the ultimate generalists. Losing their special weapons goes against that.

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Marines are still generalists, it just happens squad wide before deployment instead of one of five guys.

 

A squad of 10 heavy support marines might go all hellblasters, or desolators, or might split up and do 5 hellblasters, 3 Eradicators and 2 in an Invictor each.

 

It just doesn't translate that to the tabletop, what with every unit having a sergeant, none of it technically mattering anyway since you do not buy one squad and then just pare out squaddies as you like, and in this way screws battleline into only changing into other battleline, which means bolters of some flavour.

 

I do like the "all squads have on type of gun" outside of battleline units, who imo should have kill team levels of shenanigans going on by default.

[TheNicronomicon]

Back on topic I cannot wait for the next wave of Space Wolves previews. I figure these are all the power armored dudes (the next round is probably the Terminators; if the Allfather truly blesses us we’ll see a dreadnought too but I’m just being greedy there) but I hope they give us a wolf lord too. Otherwise that battle leader is gonna end up getting a battlefield promotion while poor old Thoryk stays on as WGBL. 

[01RTB01]

  On 3/29/2025 at 12:31 AM, TheNicronomicon said:

Back on topic I cannot wait for the next wave of Space Wolves previews. I figure these are all the power armored dudes (the next round is probably the Terminators; if the Allfather truly blesses us we’ll see a dreadnought too but I’m just being greedy there) but I hope they give us a wolf lord too. Otherwise that battle leader is gonna end up getting a battlefield promotion while poor old Thoryk stays on as WGBL. 

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I'm not a collector but I'd love to see Bjorn.

[Moonstalker]

  On 3/29/2025 at 12:31 AM, TheNicronomicon said:

Back on topic I cannot wait for the next wave of Space Wolves previews. I figure these are all the power armored dudes (the next round is probably the Terminators; if the Allfather truly blesses us we’ll see a dreadnought too but I’m just being greedy there) but I hope they give us a wolf lord too. Otherwise that battle leader is gonna end up getting a battlefield promotion while poor old Thoryk stays on as WGBL. 

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I've got a 90% assembled Redemptor that's now waiting on a Greytide upgrade kit.  I've still got my old metal Bjorn; a Redemptor-chassis upgrade for him would be nice.

[roryokane]

  On 3/27/2025 at 6:06 AM, Lupercals chosen said:

For me personally, take the grey wolf carbines and stick them on the blood claws' bodies, and it's very close to the classic SM look I grew up with and adored. Apologies if I've missed the rumours, but I wonder if this is a nod to what we might expect to see in a future vanilla SM intercessor squad update? With the extra armour gubbins being added to those longer serving marines a la grey hunters? Personally I've always disliked the longer boltguns and extra armour bits on the knee pads and exhaust vents, so this Space Wolf update might finally get me back on board. One of my first purchases as a young boy was the 2nd edition grey wolves box - to see them redone in this way makes my heart sing. It's a yes from me...

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This was my exact sentiment when seeing them. The Grey Hunters have “proper” bolters, and the legs on the Blood Claws look kinda like Mk VII/Mk VIII legs. Add in the Mk VI and VII bits and you have effectively just got bigger firstborn (maybe use some old backpacks as well?. Sadly lacking actual modularity, and with far too many furs and fetishes for this son of Macragge, but still, not bad. Still prefer my 1998 era bois though. ;)

[Wolf Guard Dan]

  On 3/29/2025 at 12:39 AM, Moonstalker said:

I've got a 90% assembled Redemptor that's now waiting on a Greytide upgrade kit.  I've still got my old metal Bjorn; a Redemptor-chassis upgrade for him would be nice.

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Has anyone used the current SW dread kit to enhance their primaris dreads? I never got the SW dread because I just take metal Bjorn out of the sock when I need him for wargaming. Do the bits from SW dread look small on primaris dreads?

[Wispy]

  On 3/29/2025 at 2:44 AM, Wolf Guard Dan said:

Has anyone used the current SW dread kit to enhance their primaris dreads? I never got the SW dread because I just take metal Bjorn out of the sock when I need him for wargaming. Do the bits from SW dread look small on primaris dreads?

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They fit well enough. 

[Dried]

  On 3/29/2025 at 4:18 AM, Wispy said:

They fit well enough. 

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I did something similar too :