Space Wolves refresh

[crimsondave]

8 hours ago, Karhedron said:

I am wondering what will be in the Combat Patrol. Normally they include whatever is not going in the limited army box (e.g. DAs and BAs). But the limited box includes both Blood Claws and Grey Hunters. So will the CP be elite-heavy with lots of Terminators? BAs got 2 squads of Sanguinary Guard so it is plausible. Will there be any Battleline units, will they duplicate BCs or GHs from the army box or will there be some Intercessors with an upgrade sprue for decoration? 

 

So many questions. 

I hope they don’t pile the Combat Patrol full of terminators.  Then I’d have to buy it and there goes my Dark Angels street cred.

[WrathOfTheLion]

25 minutes ago, crimsondave said:

I hope they don’t pile the Combat Patrol full of terminators.  Then I’d have to buy it and there goes my Dark Angels street cred.

Mine's already gone, I started with SW and have always maintained both a SW and DA army since I got active again.

[dienekes96]

Once they showed the remaining releases on Monday, I assumed they were going to be the pre-order announcement this Sunday.  At least the army box.

Edited Saturday at 02:32 AM by dienekes96

[Moonstalker]

Pre-orders coming up sounds good; in a rare twist, I've actually got that Saturday off, so I would actually be able to camp my pre-order.

 

But what I'm really impatient for is a codex leak.

[Wispy]

Would they do a new combat patrol? I would hate to see them have to waste datasheets on putting intercessors in the codex to cover that patrol.

[Mmmmm Napalm]

On 4/28/2025 at 11:22 AM, Marshal Mittens said:

This is the best refresh in a long time, imo. Even better than the Black Templar one. And way better than Blood Angels. 

I certainly wish that instead of bolt rifles, the crusader squad kit had bolt carbines (aka normal, tradtionally sized bolters that actually looks proportionate to the marine) like the new grey hunters have.

 

It also would have been nice if the Crusader Squad was two distinct  sprues like the grey hunters and most marine kits; the chained bolt pistols/chainswords being limited to just three sets has started to be a frustration for me, as the positioning/pose of said arms really start to demonstrate their limitations when using them on vanilla SM bodies to make initiates; there are a lot of body poses they just don't work with. Unfortunately the SB weapon sets don't offset this all that much, as those arms are very much tailored towards the poses in that specific kit as well.

Edited Saturday at 04:51 AM by Mmmmm Napalm

[01RTB01]

14 hours ago, Archaeinox said:

 

I really want this to happen, but I fear that it won't. Today 5/2 we got the Death Guard Faction Focus on WarCom. If they don't do the WE and DG Crusade focus articles on WarCom today, that leaves it for next week. 

 

If TS and SW box is revealed Sunday, they'll want to be talking about it all week. So personally I think we have yet another week to go before anything for TS or SW.

 

I think SW alongside TS codex is a realistic expectation since DG/WE had a dual release.

I think the soulblight remaining release for AoS is more likely. They're not going to do back to back 40k releases.

[Karhedron]

3 hours ago, Wispy said:

Would they do a new combat patrol? I would hate to see them have to waste datasheets on putting intercessors in the codex to cover that patrol.

 

I think every faction gets a Combat Patrol. Assault Intercessors were a perfect Troop unit for Blood Angels but on reflection, the only difference between the ones in the CP from the army box is that the boxed ones were painted in Death Company colours.

 

So maybe we will see some overlap and the CP could contain a second squad of BCs/GHs. I do still expect to see WG TDA in the CP.

[ZeroWolf]

Yeah, so far everyone has had a new CP, so can't see SW keeping the old one.

 

As for them being in tomorrow's preview...hmm, we'll wait and see there.

[Lord Marshal]

The current CP also has the old Battle Leader in it, which is probably getting retired with the multi-option model coming.

 

EDIT: Just checked the webstore and it's been 404'ed so that answers that I suppose.

 

Edited Saturday at 10:41 AM by Lord Marshal

[Mazer Rackham]

Damn you, James Workshop! Damn YOU.

 

Now I must go back to being a professional male gigolo in order to afford these incredible new Wolves.

 

May the pasty, sweaty arsecheeks of Abaddon despoil your office toilets with pungent recrimination for a thousand years!

 

*Shakes fist and curses timeline*

[TheMawr]

6 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

I think the soulblight remaining release for AoS is more likely. They're not going to do back to back 40k releases.

Wich might have been the reason we got an empty week in between ;)  

I think the no back to back thing is not arbitrary and thus might be a time-pattern sensitive thing. ( as in.. its not that they dont want 2 back to back 40k releases, but rather they cant*)

 

Thus while it isnt a week of something else, an empty week between 2 40k weeks still covers the "no back to back" thing going on.

 

 

*my closest theory is that their Schedule rotates all main factory duty to one of the two main systems entirely for 2 weeks each ( new as well as old kit production )  so that you can keep the process as automated as possible. Then have a day or two switching all tooling and then two weeks of the other. Whereas non main game skus are in a less automated system.

But i dont know enough about factory processes  

[Nephaston]

The number crunchers across the internet have come to the conclusion that Old Man Logan is on a 80mm. Here he is when compared of marine leaders of similar thickness;

 

 

As you can see, Mr. Grimnar went to the Kenobi School of Positioning, Stancing, and Posing.

[Mazer Rackham]

43 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

As you can see, Mr. Grimnar went to the Kenobi School of Positioning, Stancing, and Posing.

 

The Tactical Rock has crossed the Rubicon Primaris, and has now become the Strategic Scarp.

 

Heroes of Fenris are not born, but quarried.

 

Edited Saturday at 09:59 PM by Mazer Rackham

[TheArtilleryman]

Grimnar reminds me a little of Krampus.

[Commissar Greif]

15 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

The current CP also has the old Battle Leader in it, which is probably getting retired with the multi-option model coming.

 

EDIT: Just checked the webstore and it's been 404'ed so that answers that I suppose.

 

Still up on the US webstore, at least as of 9:00 PM Central on Saturday.

[Blindhamster]

12 hours ago, Nephaston said:

The number crunchers across the internet have come to the conclusion that Old Man Logan is on a 80mm. Here he is when compared of marine leaders of similar thickness;

 

 

As you can see, Mr. Grimnar went to the Kenobi School of Positioning, Stancing, and Posing.

 

doubtful, as this makes him bigger and chunkier than abaddon, who is still bigger and chunkier than the new terminator models. His head is also larger than primarch heads in this image

Edited Sunday at 09:59 AM by Blindhamster

[skylerboodie]

The Saturday WarCom article ends with "Enjoy the brief calm – we’ll be back tomorrow with an ominous creak…" which certainly sounds like the rest of Soulblight Gravelords are being announced for preorder tomo, but maybe Space Wolves Army set as well if need to make up a week's gap. (Valrak normally knows his stuff, especially short term)

[Frogian]

On 5/2/2025 at 2:33 PM, Lord Nord in Gravis Armour said:

The combat patrols for all of the range-refreshed chapters so far have included at least one upgrade sprue, so yeah we should see both of those the same day. It'd be weird to unveil the Combat Patrol, where the photos will include several of those upgrade bits, and then not show the upgrade sprue itself. Then again, GW has made stranger decisions...

They've needed them because they have standard SM units though - if the new one is is all SW specific kits then no need for upgrade sprue in the box. Be very interesting to see which way they go with it.

 

  

23 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

The current CP also has the old Battle Leader in it, which is probably getting retired with the multi-option model coming.

 

Which is a pity because its such a good model and a lot of SW players aren't of going to have ever bought the combat patrol. Maybe they could make it a web exclusive or something.

Edited Sunday at 10:08 AM by Frogian

[Commissar Greif]

46 minutes ago, Frogian said:

Which is a pity because its such a good model and a lot of SW players aren't of going to have ever bought the combat patrol. Maybe they could make it a web exclusive or something.

Yeah. I bought the combat patrol years ago and gave the battle leader and upgrade sprues (sans heads) to a friend who was starting a Wolves army at the time. Used the marines inside for my Crimson Fists. In retrospect, I found myself wishing I'd kept that battle leader. Ended up deciding to get ahead of the curb and snagged one on Ebay for $30. I'll see what the codex entails before I get him finished, but he looks great as a Blood Claw/Grey Hunter leader as opposed to the more Wolf Guard look of the new model.

[Karhedron]

1 hour ago, Frogian said:

Which is a pity because its such a good model and a lot of SW players aren't of going to have ever bought the combat patrol. Maybe they could make it a web exclusive or something.

 

I agree. In  some ways I wish he were staying as the WGBL model and the new kit was a generic Wolf Lord since it is so much more decorated. Although that would then lock the WGBL to a single loadout which is definitely not what we want.

[chapter master 454]

at this rate, we'll have tactical pillars! That's some base decoration

[Nephaston]

5 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

 

doubtful, as this makes him bigger and chunkier than abaddon, who is still bigger and chunkier than the new terminator models. His head is also larger than primarch heads in this image

 

He kinda has to be on an 80mm base, on a 60mm one he we be too small, and on a 100mm he would be far too large. 70mm and 90mm bases do not exist.

 

 

His furs and hair also add a lot of mass. Though i'll ask the sote owner if he can make sure he got the numbers right, just in case.

[Dark Shepherd]

2 hours ago, chapter master 454 said:

at this rate, we'll have tactical pillars! That's some base decoration

We came close with the tactical statue

[Karhedron]

20 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

He kinda has to be on an 80mm base, on a 60mm one he we be too small, and on a 100mm he would be far too large. 70mm and 90mm bases do not exist.

 

 

I think you are right. Although the way he is mounted on a big 80mm base with all that extra height makes him a real centrepiece leader. So much so that it makes me doubt we will see Russ this edition.