Robbienw Posted yesterday at 04:02 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:02 PM Farewell flying longboats, you will be missed. Perhaps they got rid of them because they don’t sell well? A shame as they are cool models. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM 23 minutes ago, Robbienw said: Farewell flying longboats, you will be missed. Perhaps they got rid of them because they don’t sell well? A shame as they are cool models. Perhaps they haven't. We haven't seen rhinos, land raiders etc yet. I can't see the boats going when they've kept thunderwolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted yesterday at 04:29 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:29 PM 1 minute ago, 01RTB01 said: Perhaps they haven't. We haven't seen rhinos, land raiders etc yet. I can't see the boats going when they've kept thunderwolves. We won't see Rhinos, Land Raiders, and similar in this book. It's a codex supplement, not a codex - it requires the base marine dex to work. GW said we're getting 20 datasheets, and 20 is what's been posted. Metzombie, Dalmyth, SvenIronhand and 3 others 4 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted yesterday at 04:36 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:36 PM (edited) I think Stormwolf/Stormfang went as its a very large kit that doesnt sell well. Its one thing doing a production run of a character but a big oul.vehicle with big sprues uses up a lot of production time/allocation and then warehouse space is a different story. (Also the inconsistent flyer purge) Edited yesterday at 04:50 PM by Dark Shepherd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted yesterday at 04:44 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:44 PM 40 minutes ago, Robbienw said: Farewell flying longboats, you will be missed. Perhaps they got rid of them because they don’t sell well? A shame as they are cool models. They will be missed for sure. Need to grab a second one soon. Good source of bits in addition to being a neat model Dark Shepherd and Robbienw 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted yesterday at 04:55 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:55 PM (edited) Army Set pre-order next week, perhaps unsurprisingly now - along with Crusade: Armageddon and Chapter Approved. Edited yesterday at 04:58 PM by Lord Marshal Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM 19 minutes ago, Kassill said: They will be missed for sure. Need to grab a second one soon. Good source of bits in addition to being a neat model Speaking of...any sign of sn upgrade sprue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted yesterday at 05:12 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:12 PM And here we go 8 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said: Speaking of...any sign of sn upgrade sprue? Not yet Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted yesterday at 05:14 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 05:14 PM 1 hour ago, Sardreth said: EDIT: The Head-Takers include a profile for their wolves and the first special rule translates to 'Let the wolves loose' so they propably are able to detach. ) The English translation is Who Let the Dogs Out? Karhedron, Sardreth and Dark Shepherd 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted yesterday at 05:31 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 05:31 PM (edited) I suppose a lack of uniformity here with GW is giving us some insight or what kits are popular and what isn't. It's all very kit centric. Were Blood Angels collectors not buying enough Dreadnoughts? Were Space Wolves collectors not buying enough flyers? I never believed Thunderwolf cavalry would go away even though I strongly expected the finecast characters would. I expect Harald will make his triumphant return one day, but not today. Edited yesterday at 05:40 PM by Wispy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted yesterday at 05:41 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:41 PM There's something coming next week that, quote, "No one saw coming". I'm taking this to mean it's something that we're 100% expecting to be arriving. We thinking this is Russ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted yesterday at 05:43 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:43 PM 1 hour ago, Robbienw said: Farewell flying longboats, you will be missed. Perhaps they got rid of them because they don’t sell well? A shame as they are cool models. It doesn't matter if they sold or not. There are people with these models and they should be able to be used in a game, regardless of how trash they might be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted yesterday at 05:44 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:44 PM 1 minute ago, Indy Techwisp said: There's something coming next week that, quote, "No one saw coming". I'm taking this to mean it's something that we're 100% expecting to be arriving. We thinking this is Russ? The "surprise announcement none of you have seen coming" is a sarcastic reference to the leaked HH box. LightningClawLeonard, Dark Shepherd, DemonGSides and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted yesterday at 05:46 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:46 PM 4 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: There's something coming next week that, quote, "No one saw coming". I'm taking this to mean it's something that we're 100% expecting to be arriving. We thinking this is Russ? Battlefleet Mordheim. Boytoy, Dark Shepherd, Alby the Slayer and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted yesterday at 05:46 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:46 PM 4 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: There's something coming next week that, quote, "No one saw coming". I'm taking this to mean it's something that we're 100% expecting to be arriving. We thinking this is Russ? HH box. ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted yesterday at 06:10 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:10 PM 5 hours ago, Karhedron said: I am glad that our Dreads are staying but the loss of the Fliers sucks, especially considering the effort I put into magnetised mine. 4 hours ago, TheVoidDragon said: Removing the Stormfang does seem quite strange if they haven't been removing aircraft units in general and other codex releases still have theirs. Is there enough overlap between Stormfang and Stormraven to play them as counts-as? Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted yesterday at 06:13 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:13 PM 1 minute ago, jaxom said: Is there enough overlap between Stormfang and Stormraven to play them as counts-as? It's basically the same thing, but I've also never seen one on the table because nobody thought it was good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted yesterday at 06:23 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 06:23 PM (edited) 41 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said: There are people with these models and they should be able to be used in a game, regardless of how trash they might be. I agree that everyone's communities and should be more permissive about using Legends rules. The "not allowed to use them" is a community problem. I have a stormwolf and stormfang painted, btw, I am not too broken up about this. Edited yesterday at 06:25 PM by Wispy Lemondish, Frogian and Karhedron 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted yesterday at 06:44 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:44 PM 2 hours ago, Dark Shepherd said: I think Stormwolf/Stormfang went as its a very large kit that doesnt sell well. It would have sold better with half-way decent rules. Flyers still seem to be paying for their sins in earlier editions. Dr_Ruminahui, Wolf Guard Dan and Dark Shepherd 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted yesterday at 06:49 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:49 PM 21 minutes ago, Wispy said: I agree that everyone's communities and should be more permissive about using Legends rules. The "not allowed to use them" is a community problem. I have to disagree here. It is very much GW's problem for creating a two-tier system of army units and the adopting a slopy-shoulder approach to the problem. It is not a community problem for prefer to stick with strictly tournament-legal units. Anyone who remembers the horrors of overpowered FW models in previous editions will understand this. GW have created a situation where anything not in a codex might as well not exist. It does not matter that most Legends units are not that powerful. Too many people in the community have been burned in the past and automatically assume anyone wanting to use a Legends unit is a dirty WAAC power gamer. It may not be fair but for a long period of time it was generally true. Wispy, DemonGSides, Metzombie and 7 others 4 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted yesterday at 07:14 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:14 PM 1 hour ago, 01RTB01 said: HH box. Probably yeah, but it might also be something for the usual monday reveal out of left field. Though of course no telling for which system. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted yesterday at 07:24 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:24 PM 38 minutes ago, Karhedron said: It would have sold better with half-way decent rules. Flyers still seem to be paying for their sins in earlier editions. Yep, flying transports especially. IMO skimmers/coptors/prop jets work in game but supersonic fighters not so much. Guess they broke flying transports when they removed hover to disembark Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted 23 hours ago Author Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 55 minutes ago, Karhedron said: I have to disagree here. It is very much GW's problem for creating a two-tier system of army units and the adopting a slopy-shoulder approach to the problem. It is not a community problem for prefer to stick with strictly tournament-legal units. Anyone who remembers the horrors of overpowered FW models in previous editions will understand this. GW have created a situation where anything not in a codex might as well not exist. It does not matter that most Legends units are not that powerful. Too many people in the community have been burned in the past and automatically assume anyone wanting to use a Legends unit is a dirty WAAC power gamer. It may not be fair but for a long period of time it was generally true. GW has too many datasheets to effectively and realistically support. That's the reality, accept it or deny it. Legends is a good compromise, the community refusing that compromise collectively gets us this status quo. Holding out for perfect solution where GW maintains everything forever is not happening. It gets us nothing, as we've seen. perfect is always the enemy of good and practical. Anyways, I have made peace that this is how folks are going to be about it & I have no sympathy any longer. Balls in our own court and always has been. Again, I'm probably one of the only people in this threat that owns and painted both of these flyers. I still have my flyers. I could play a game with them if I wanted. Edited 23 hours ago by Wispy Lemondish, ursvamp, DemonGSides and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) Screw that noise, GW. You aren’t getting my cash for that crap. Edited 23 hours ago by Bryan Blaire Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Bryan Blaire said: Screw that noise, GW. You aren’t getting my cash for that crap. They don’t care. darkdark25 and Bryan Blaire 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385577-space-wolves-refresh/page/22/#findComment-6110566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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