New era for Space Wolves

[DuckSauce]

New and improved Iron priest for MVP. Remember when they could ride thunderwolves? Good times

 

Edited May 24 by TiguriusX
I have removed the IP datasheet because we don't post leaked images...we don't want copyright violations from GW. All good now. Carry on.

[Wispy]

On 5/22/2025 at 5:53 AM, Bryan Blaire said:

@Wispy Does it mention anything about Krom as Primaris? (I’m wondering if that’s just assumed for every Marine at this point as well.)

Nope. Barely makes the distinction between Primaris and First Born. Only Ragnar's Rubicon crossing is mentioned, and its in the context of a resurrection from near death from his battle vs Ghaz. Krom is noted as presently joining Ragnar in hit-an-runs versus the Waaaghs that are converging on Armageddon. Bromance blooming!

 

You do know Space Wolves are going through the Rubicon, though. like a Wolf Priest as old as the guy in the box is probably not fresh off the Indomitus Crusade.

[TopToffee]

1 minute ago, Wispy said:

Nope. Barely makes the distinction between Primaris and First Born. Only Ragnar's Rubicon crossing is mentioned, and its in the context of a resurrection from near death from his battle vs Ghaz. Krom is noted as presently joining Ragnar in hit-an-runs versus the Waaaghs that are converging on Armageddon. Bromance blooming!

 

You do know Space Wolves are going through the Rubicon, though. like a Wolf Priest as old as the guy in the box is probably not fresh off the Indomitus Crusade.

Primaris will be quietly retired pretty soon IMO. 
it was al ways just a way to bridge the gap of having different sized models

[Karhedron]

57 minutes ago, TopToffee said:

Primaris will be quietly retired pretty soon IMO. 
it was al ways just a way to bridge the gap of having different sized models

 

Yup, it will be like they did with Terminators, no distinction. But it also gives them the opportunity to get rid of some of the old mixed loadout units that are hard to balance with a single points cost.

[Lord Ragnarok]

On 5/20/2025 at 4:16 PM, Wispy said:

The codex leaked, I'm not going to share rules but I will share some new lore.

 

The Iron Wolves and Firehowlers have been retired. A new Grand Annulas has been designed. 

 

Torval Wyrdbane leads the Duskwolves under the new (old) spirit wolf sigil. He succeeds Vorek Gnarlfist, who I guess died. I guess they were feeling so cursed losing Wolf Lords at this point that they picked the most cursed Fenrisian sigil in a 'come at me bro'.'

 

The Firehowlers are now the Runemarked, led by Hrothvyr Runescar. Their sigil is a wolf head shaped like the one used by the Wolf Spears, except there is a rune mark on the forehead.

 

@Bryan Blaire Krom endures in the lore. 

Anything to note about the Runemarked lore? 

[Beef]

On 5/21/2025 at 6:26 PM, TiguriusX said:

First draft...Beastslayer detachment idea

 

    Total
    Bjorn w/MM
    WGBL w/TH w/ Elder's Guidance
    WGBL w/TH
    WGBL w/TH w/ Wolf touched
    Combi LT
    Iron priest
    Iron priest
    Predator Annihilator
    Predator Annihilator
    Predator Destructor
    Predator Destructor
    10xWulfen with hammers
    5xIntercessors
    10xBC
    10xBC

    5xWolves
    5xWolves
    5xWolves
    Desolation marines

PINNING FIRE for desolation marines and they can use oath if nobody else needs it b/c all melee units have sustain and reroll 1s

Annihilators will have 8 total anti tank shots (2 HK 4 LC 2 Predator LC) with rerolling damage when buffed by IP
Destructors will have 6 total anti tank shots (2 HK 4 LC) and extra AP against infantry

 

Wolves are early turn action monkeys and scoring units (daisy chain them within 6" of a character to grant OC)

After turn 3 Bjorn doesn't have to babysit the home objective and gets to uppy/downy and join the fight using COORDINATED STRIKE

 

 

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Couple hours later...after experimenting with lists I'm bummed out...I predict the SW players will end up using good old Gladius instead of our new detachments

 

GLADIUS TASK FORCE

Bjorn w/MM
Iron priest
Iron priest
Wolf priest
Wolf priest

3xHeadtakers + 3xWolves
3xHeadtakers + 3xWolves
10xWulfen with hammers
10xWulfen with hammers
10xWulfen with hammers
5xIntercessors
5xWolves
5xWolves
5xWolves

Lancer
Lancer
Predator Annihilator
Predator Annihilator

 

*Wolves and their ability to gain OC and do actions are one of our strongest codex items

Max out wolves!!!

 

This list has everything it needs from a Gladius detachment
Can put 1 or all wulfen into assault doctrine so they gain advance and charge

Can fight on death for 2 CP guaranteed so you don't need murderfang or his wulfen aura

Wulfen will crush infantry with lance or destroy monsters/vehicles b/c they have anti 3+ and 3dmg

Wulfen will be able to storm objectives b/c wolf priests have 12" aura buff

 

The vehicles with rapid fire will punch through anything without an invulnerable save (lancer and storm of fire is ignore cover + AP)

Don't need oath +1 because lancer has S14 guns and annihilator has S14 hunter killer and S14 special predator LC

With iron priest rapid fire buff the lancer provides quality shots (3 anti tank) and the annihilator provides volume (8 anti tank)

 

 

Silly question incoming on the above detachments.

 

Are these pre organised lists in the codex or lists people have made?

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

@Beef - Those are lists that @TiguriusX made.

[Wispy]

21 hours ago, Lord Ragnarok said:

Anything to note about the Runemarked lore? 

Very little. Just this. I assume they Runemarked continue Bloodhowl's practice of marking their armour and bodies with the runes of their sagas continues.

 

"RUNE WOLF

The Rune Wolf represents foresight and fortune. Hrothvyr Runescar, Wolf Lord of the Runemarked and successor to Sven Bloodhowl, took this sigil as his own"

 

Wyrdbane & his Duskwolves on the other hand got two pieces of lore!

 

One a saga

"Neath summer's brief fire was he born,

and in winter's chill dark did he find his home. Wyrdbane his name, earned and chosen well,

the low cunning of the wolf was his gift.

 

In Wolf Guard's serried ranks did Torval Wyrdbane march,

and to the cry of 'Russ!' was steel-blue Vorskyr drawn.

Fangs bared he joined the fray with savage vigour,

and so was Vorskyr's keen edge made crimson slick.

 

Amid sword-clash did Gnarlfist meet his doom,

and in pack-moot was Wyrdbane his inheritor proclaimed.

And so, denying curse and fate, Wyrdbane in his pride decreed,

the sigil of the spirit wolf would be his own.

 

In vengeance did Duskwolves put the Red One's sons to sword,

and in their snow-melt tread were made mountains of the dead."

 

And then this 

"

THE SHADOW WOLF

The Stygius Sector lies on the far side of the Great Rift from Fenris. This region of the Imperium has fallen under the malign influence of the Thousand Sons, bitter foes of the sons of Russ. Cut off from reinforcement, Imperial forces in this sector find themselves

outgunned and overwhelmed by traitor forces. Command structures and planetary governments are continually undermined and infiltrated by the nefarious plotting of their sorcerous foes. At the fringes of this madness stalk the Wolf Lord Torval Wyrdbane and his Duskwolves. The Shadow Wolf and his hunter packs provide hope to the Imperium's besieged citizens amidst an ever-swelling tide of misery. Wyrdbane himself has taken the heads of no fewer than four of the Thousand Sons' Sorcerers, most notably Kayesh Vrall, the Whispering Despot of Kalimvar, the final victim of the Duskwolves' purge of that corrupted world"

 

[TiguriusX]

On 5/25/2025 at 9:25 AM, Beef said:

 

 

Silly question incoming on the above detachments.

 

Are these pre organised lists in the codex or lists people have made?

These were the first ideas I came up with for testing

 

I have now run a practice game with them and have feedback

 

If you are going to use the IP and use vehicles I think you need to run Gladius.  In my test game the annihilators shots kept bouncing off 2+ vindicators and I got real annoyed.  Storm of fire to strip cover and give extra AP makes the rapid fire shooting so much better

 

Second thing I learned is 3 giant bricks of wulfen are too much...the list needs more utility

 

This is the next list i will be testing

 

Gladius Wulfen - Space Wolves - Gladius Task Force (2000 Points)

Bjorn the Fell-Handed

Iron Priest 
Iron Priest 
Wolf Priest 
Wolf Priest 

Intercessor Squad (5 models) 

3xWolf Guard Headtakers (+3 wolves) 
3xWolf Guard Headtakers (+3 wolves)
3xWolf Guard Headtakers (+3 wolves)
Wulfen (5 models) 
Wulfen w/ Storm Shield (10 models) 
Wulfen w/ Storm Shield (10 models) 

Fenrisian Wolves (5 models) 
Fenrisian Wolves (5 models) 

Gladiator Lancer 
Gladiator Lancer 
Predator Annihilator 
Predator Annihilator 

Edited Tuesday at 02:53 PM by TiguriusX

[Wolf Guard Dan]

How vehicle heavy is your meta? Do you think this list could use more anti infantry?

[TiguriusX]

29 minutes ago, Wolf Guard Dan said:

How vehicle heavy is your meta? Do you think this list could use more anti infantry?

 

Very vehicle heavy

 

Knights are around

Custodes solar spearhead with tons of dreads

DeathGuard with bloat drone spam

UltraMarines with tons of vindicators and other vehicles using double oath

 

Enemy infantry doesn't actually scare me...I can either get them first with good SW mobility and advance + charge or I can fight on death for 2CP and take them down with me