ZeroWolf Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Went looking on the WarCom to see if I missed anything important (I didn't) I came across this video. My question is, what model is that silhouette? Is that one of the Space Wolves? And the fact that it's labelled Astartes Reinforcements (actual video is adepticon reveals) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6105589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 It’s the Space Wolf Battle Leader Karhedron, Wispy, painting.for.my.sanity and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6105590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Vakarian Posted Tuesday at 02:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:13 PM Another update from Valrak, here’s a brief summary from what I took away. - Space Marines Codex 2.0 is definitely coming, Valrak thinks it will be the last codex of 10th and then lead into an end-of-edition narrative book series. - The pictures on the roadmap are specifically for the new Marine characters, which are the first things we will start getting. He confirmed the expected characters: Vulcan for Salamanders, Lysander for Imperial Fists, a jet bike character for White Scars, a terminator character for Iron Hands, and Raven Guard is still unknown. - Refreshed Assault Terminators are definitely coming and Valrak thinks they are coming with SM 2.0 (he may have outright said that they are coming with the 2.0 codex, I couldn’t quite tell if that was speculation or confirmation) - Multipart outriders, a new Land Speeder, and refreshed Vanguard Veterans are also for sure coming. He’s not sure if we may see some or all of these in 10th, or if some might be coming in 11th. Personally, until he confirms otherwise, I expect Van Vets and the Speeder are probably coming in 11th. I could see multipart Outriders at either release. - Here’s the big one: GW *is* working on updates to at least some of the tracked Marine vehicles, without any confirmed specifics. Valrak speculated about the Rhino and Land Raider. We shall see. Finally, he thinks we will start seeing some of these things at the May preview. I can’t wait!!! HolyPestilience, Domhnall, Lord Marshal and 5 others 2 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Tuesday at 03:04 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:04 PM 41 minutes ago, Brother Captain Vakarian said: The pictures on the roadmap are specifically for the new Marine characters, which are the first things we will start getting. That can't be the case as the artworks are older; the salamander is a flamestorm aggressor, and the imperial fist is tor garadon Spoiler 46 minutes ago, Brother Captain Vakarian said: - Here’s the big one: GW *is* working on updates to at least some of the tracked Marine vehicles, without any confirmed specifics. Valrak speculated about the Rhino and Land Raider. We shall see. I do love me some grav, but if they manage to make the Land raiders hatch a tad more plausible for miniatures to actually exit I'll be all over that. My guess is anything multipart gets released with 2.0 while anything with an initial push-fit assembly gets saved for 11th. And 2.0 being the last codex will also save Dark Eldar from that fate. Or maybe it is a Shadowspear-esque release. HolyPestilience and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Vakarian Posted Tuesday at 03:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:06 PM 1 minute ago, Nephaston said: That can't be the case as the artworks are older; the salamander is a flamestorm aggressor, and the imperial fist is tor garadon It is, nonetheless, what Frater Valrak said. The artwork isn’t of the characters that are coming, it’s of the chapters that they are for. Although his sources are generally spot on this close to upcoming releases, feel free to still take with whatever grain of salt is felt to be appropriate. LightningClawLeonard and DemonGSides 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Tuesday at 03:41 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:41 PM (edited) 43 minutes ago, Brother Captain Vakarian said: It is, nonetheless, what Frater Valrak said. The artwork isn’t of the characters that are coming, it’s of the chapters that they are for. Although his sources are generally spot on this close to upcoming releases, feel free to still take with whatever grain of salt is felt to be appropriate. I haven't seen the video yet, so I took your summary as written; " The pictures on the roadmap are specifically for the new Marine characters," when it should read " The pictures on the roadmap correspond to the chapters receiving new or refreshed characters," Edited Tuesday at 03:50 PM by Nephaston DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Vakarian Posted Tuesday at 03:44 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:44 PM I must admit I wasn’t expecting such a specific parsing of my phrasing, I thought that was what I had already implied. The pictures are specifically for the characters in the sense that they show when those characters, for the pictures chapters, will release. Avf, LightningClawLeonard, ThaneOfTas and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Tuesday at 03:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:53 PM Welcome to the internet, where everything written will be picked apart, implication disregarded unless specified, and misunderstandings are frequent. ThaneOfTas, Rhavien, jaxom and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Vakarian Posted Tuesday at 04:02 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:02 PM I’m well aware. My experience on this sight has typically been better. Best we leave it and let the rest of the frater engage with the actual rumors as they see fit. DemonGSides, Casual Heresy, Nephaston and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM Interesting and I wonder if their placement in the roadmap means they’ll get a pdf release prior to the end of 10th. danodan123 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted Tuesday at 07:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:31 PM I was a bout to grumble something like "nothing on what Templars are getting? A character right?..." Then I stopped myself and remembered we will get our own codex.., so should obviously not be included here. I guess this timeline isn't all bad.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted Wednesday at 07:39 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:39 AM Good. More Astartes. More Imperial Fists I can have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted Wednesday at 10:52 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:52 AM * rubs hands together * Okily dokily. I'll need some of the re-sized Terminators to go with my new Terminator character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted Wednesday at 10:59 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:59 AM Multipart Outriders Kit?! Yesss! I love the models, but they didn't get much tabletime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecanojavi99 Posted Wednesday at 11:35 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:35 AM Haven't seen the video but what was Valrak's specific wording on the tracked vehicles? Was it very specific on the updates being for SM or it was something lore like "they are working on updating them" I say this because I'm still very skeptical of GW redoing the tracked vehicles for loyalist SM, but I could see happening for CSM specially. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted Wednesday at 11:52 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:52 AM 13 minutes ago, mecanojavi99 said: I say this because I'm still very skeptical of GW redoing the tracked vehicles for loyalist SM, but I could see happening for CSM specially. GW have been doing straight upgrades of some units this edition (Terminators, Drop Pods and Sternguard spring to mind). This suggests that they recognise some units are too iconic to ditch and replace with Primaris equivalents. This means I could see new versions of the Land Raider at least. I am less sure about the Rhino as its derivatives have been largely superseded by the Impulsor and Gladiator variants. But I do like the idea of a Rhino that can hold 10 Primaris marines.... Ammonius and Maritn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Vakarian Posted Wednesday at 01:08 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:08 PM He was pretty clear that the tracked vehicles GW is updating are for loyalist Space Marines. The whole video was only about things coming for loyalists, so I very much doubt he was referring to Chaos Space Marines. That’s not to say that he said or implied CSM would not also get updated tracked vehicles, but he was focused on loyalist models. That said, *which* vehicles are getting updates was purely speculation on his part at this point. He did not have any specifics to share as viable rumors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted Wednesday at 02:05 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:05 PM (edited) Flashback to June 2017 when people insisted the entire firstborn line would be dropped and that i was an idiot for thinking otherwise. Fast Forward to now when we have new 1 for 1 updates of things like Terminators, Scouts and Drop Pods, chapter specific units and characters being close updates of old versions and strong rumours of new MK7/armour variation coming to line kits plus updated Land Raiders and Rhinos Edited Wednesday at 02:06 PM by Robbienw Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jings Posted Wednesday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:24 PM 2 hours ago, Robbienw said: Flashback to June 2017 when people insisted the entire firstborn line would be dropped and that i was an idiot for thinking otherwise. Fast Forward to now when we have new 1 for 1 updates of things like Terminators, Scouts and Drop Pods, chapter specific units and characters being close updates of old versions and strong rumours of new MK7/armour variation coming to line kits plus updated Land Raiders and Rhinos I'm of a mind that this is a direct result of the Primaris models released following the initial two waves being less popular than the reimagined versions of classic units that came later. Desolators and the buggy being two particular examples that spring to mind. It reads to me as more of a course correction than this being their plan from the beginning. If that were the case, we'd have seen a Combat Patrol kitting out Intercessors with additional weapon options by now. Aarik 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsondave Posted Wednesday at 04:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:43 PM I want true scale tactical marines. I doubt it happens, but I want it. If we had a lascannon primaris, I could make my own. I just can’t do the Desolators Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted Wednesday at 04:51 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 04:51 PM On 4/22/2025 at 3:13 PM, Brother Captain Vakarian said: Another update from Valrak, here’s a brief summary from what I took away. - Space Marines Codex 2.0 is definitely coming, Valrak thinks it will be the last codex of 10th and then lead into an end-of-edition narrative book series. - The pictures on the roadmap are specifically for the new Marine characters, which are the first things we will start getting. He confirmed the expected characters: Vulcan for Salamanders, Lysander for Imperial Fists, a jet bike character for White Scars, a terminator character for Iron Hands, and Raven Guard is still unknown. - Refreshed Assault Terminators are definitely coming and Valrak thinks they are coming with SM 2.0 (he may have outright said that they are coming with the 2.0 codex, I couldn’t quite tell if that was speculation or confirmation) - Multipart outriders, a new Land Speeder, and refreshed Vanguard Veterans are also for sure coming. He’s not sure if we may see some or all of these in 10th, or if some might be coming in 11th. Personally, until he confirms otherwise, I expect Van Vets and the Speeder are probably coming in 11th. I could see multipart Outriders at either release. - Here’s the big one: GW *is* working on updates to at least some of the tracked Marine vehicles, without any confirmed specifics. Valrak speculated about the Rhino and Land Raider. We shall see. Finally, he thinks we will start seeing some of these things at the May preview. I can’t wait!!! Missed the big one, New Terminator Ancient ;) ZeroWolf, Borbarad, Brother Captain Vakarian and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted Wednesday at 05:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:27 PM I'm very interested to see what "Tracked Vehicle Updates" might be. If it's newer perhaps easier to build vehicle kits, awesome. My Marines Malevolent have a older and more careworn motor pool so if folks start having new and improved ones will help mine look older :) If the hypothesized update includes a review of weapon loadouts, I'd love to be free to put my (super sweet looking) Twin Assault Cannon turrets on my Razorbacks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Vakarian Posted Wednesday at 05:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:39 PM 47 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said: Missed the big one, New Terminator Ancient ;) DOH! Yea completely whiffed on that one. All the new Terminator stuff coming has me very hyped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago On 4/23/2025 at 6:51 PM, Chapter Master Valrak said: Missed the big one, New Terminator Ancient ;) Seeing as I just converted (kitbashed really) my own, this one is pretty much 100% guaranteed then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385610-space-marine-codex-20/page/10/#findComment-6106501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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