Grimtooth Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 All my models are “Firstborn” and the size disparity has driven me crazy since Primaris first came out. With the recent news, full and completely new army and list will be needed. Buy: (2) - Army Boxes (if I can find someone to take the extra wolf priest, extra WGBL, codex, and data sheets) (1) - SW Combat Patrol (or just the LT if I can’t find an easy bits solution to getting Intercessors to GH loadout) (2) - Wulfen (if they stay and need to double check on size comparison) (1) - Brutalis/Bjorn (whatever they do with him) (1) - Hounds of Morkai (1) - Rune Priest (waiting to see what they do) (3) - Primaris Repulsor (1) - Primaris Repulsor Executioner (2) - Drop Pods (if they do come out with something new for Primaris) (2) - TWC if they do something with them in say Reiver armor for example. Depending on what happens to Long Fangs, going to need to figure out what to replace them with from Primaris. Extra unit of Blood Claws will become Sky Claws if they follow precedent with jump pack equipped Primaris Death Company. Until I see what they do with a Wolf Lord model, will use Primaris LT from Combat Patrol as a WGBL and WGBL from army box as a Wolf Lord. Not sure if Storm Speeders are going to integrate, but will likely bring them in to have for campaign lists. Build: Zero desire for competitive play. I did the RT/GT thing and facing the same flavorless internet copy/paste multiple times in the same tournament is boring as hell. This army is meant for narrative/campaign play. Flexible enough for mission builds in a roleplaying manner and not for turn 2 tabling. TheNicronomicon, Karhedron and Filius 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I thought I read/heard that the current Wulfen are sized appropriately for Primaris. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6103390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 13 minutes ago, Lord Ragnarok said: I thought I read/heard that the current Wulfen are sized appropriately for Primaris. I was under the same impression from reading it “somewhere”, but never saw a side by side. If they are bigger than Firstborn and slightly smaller than Primaris, I could see that being kosher for my personal tastes. Apokalypsi 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6103391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokalypsi Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Are you wanting to replace the Drop Pods or just don't own any? Drop Pods can take Tacticus and Phobos armor already. A squad of 9 Hellblasters and an LT (hopefully the new Wolf Priest to revive though) in one is so much fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6103398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Apokalypsi said: Are you wanting to replace the Drop Pods or just don't own any? Drop Pods can take Tacticus and Phobos armor already. A squad of 9 Hellblasters and an LT (hopefully the new Wolf Priest to revive though) in one is so much fun. I didn’t know they were able to carry any Primaris so will likely pick a couple up now that I know. Wasn’t sure if it was allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6103407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/2/2025 at 5:36 PM, Grimtooth said: I didn’t know they were able to carry any Primaris so will likely pick a couple up now that I know. Wasn’t sure if it was allowed. They can, but you kind of have to pay a premium to include a leader in that squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6103860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 On 4/5/2025 at 1:20 PM, Lemondish said: They can, but you kind of have to pay a premium to include a leader in that squad. Less worried about points cost. If I am in a narrative campaign and need drop pods, I will use them. Coming back, I really just want to have fun again and this codex looks to provide that unless something major comes out that changes my mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6104105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Grimtooth said: Less worried about points cost. If I am in a narrative campaign and need drop pods, I will use them. In that case, have at it! There are some fun narrative hooks available within those rules as to why a particular squad is only nine members at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6104128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraithwing Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Couple of rumours floating round about potentially new Drop Pods, so you may want to hang fire a bit. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6104135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/2/2025 at 12:02 PM, Grimtooth said: I was under the same impression from reading it “somewhere”, but never saw a side by side. If they are bigger than Firstborn and slightly smaller than Primaris, I could see that being kosher for my personal tastes. They're the same size as Primaris but are less bulky because they're less lightly armoured. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6104213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 23 hours ago, Wispy said: They're the same size as Primaris but are less bulky because they're less lightly armoured. This is basically what I heard as well; the proper height for an enamored Primaris. Wispy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6104351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted yesterday at 06:09 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 06:09 PM So just going to add to this topic instead of creating a new one for my army build plans so far. With the old SW Combat Patrol and the new SW Army box I am going to build out the following; WGBL Wolf Priest SW LT Right now going with unnamed HQ to be able to play not as Grimnar or Ragnar would fight a battle, but what I how I want my SW to fight a battle. If we end up being able to take Codex adherent Primaris units such as Intercessors, the SW Lt ends up with them. Others will go with what units they synergize with best. Headtakers I never really played any dedicated WG terminator units in my armies so not sure where they fit in for me. Maybe for some campaign specific games or throw them in when I have some points to spend. GH/BC I loved our old force organization charts with our compulsory rules. I even liked the SW specific rule for a HQ unit for every 750pts. So GH/BC will be the bread and butter of my gaming. SW Intercessors If we end up getting to bring in codex adherent SW units, I will treat them the same as GH/BC, albeit in a role suited for them and led by the codex adherent SW LT. Tactical Warsuit Meh, will see if I even build it out or trade it to someone for models. Primaris Reivers Will either play them as codex adherent Primaris under the SW Lt or if we get some news on our Wolf Scouts, will play them as them. Additional Units: Wulfen Wulfen Dread Bjorn Transports Heavy Support Still want a full read of the codex prior, but can’t wait to get in some games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6113129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarökNRoll Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 11 hours ago, Grimtooth said: If we end up being able to take Codex adherent Primaris units such as Intercessors, the SW Lt ends up with them. Others will go with what units they synergize with best. You absolutely can with the new Codex. No limitations outside what's in the current Space Marine FAQ as well. Some of the enhancements or stratagems may not apply to those units, depending on the detachment you wish to play. And if you haven't considered it, the 'LT' from the Combat Patrol (Haldor Icepelt) has a legal loadout for a Wolf Guard Battle Leader. That's how I'll be using him, giving me two right from the start. 11 hours ago, Grimtooth said: Headtakers I never really played any dedicated WG terminator units in my armies so not sure where they fit in for me. Maybe for some campaign specific games or throw them in when I have some points to spend. Headtakers aren't Terminators — they're more like Bladeguard. I'm going to be trying them out in two styles - big 6 model unit with the priest and shields to play as a durable brawler, or MSU with WGBL in multiple 3 man units to as trade pieces and the dual weapons. I like the narrative opportunities for that second one the best, personally. What are you thinking for Transports and Heavy Support? Going to dip into some of vehicles or stick with infantry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6113190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, RagnarökNRoll said: You absolutely can with the new Codex. No limitations outside what's in the current Space Marine FAQ as well. Some of the enhancements or stratagems may not apply to those units, depending on the detachment you wish to play. And if you haven't considered it, the 'LT' from the Combat Patrol (Haldor Icepelt) has a legal loadout for a Wolf Guard Battle Leader. That's how I'll be using him, giving me two right from the start. Headtakers aren't Terminators — they're more like Bladeguard. I'm going to be trying them out in two styles - big 6 model unit with the priest and shields to play as a durable brawler, or MSU with WGBL in multiple 3 man units to as trade pieces and the dual weapons. I like the narrative opportunities for that second one the best, personally. What are you thinking for Transports and Heavy Support? Going to dip into some of vehicles or stick with infantry? I meant that I never ran any form of the WG Terminator bomb from back in the day. Any narrative play would be around them being joined by an HQ choice to have to go do something they may not be likely coming back from. A big big bug/demon that needs to be dropped or like a boarding party. I need to take a long look at vehicles. I love Predators so with our Long Fangs in limbo, that might be my heavy weapon platforms for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385619-out-with-the-old-and-in-with-the-new/#findComment-6113254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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