So Marines are getting a new codex soon... (as per rumors)

[Orange Knight]

Thinking about this more, a new codex is inevitable as we're looking at multiple updated datasheets and some entirely new ones, if the rumors are to be believed.

I'm hoping that GW take this opportunity to really clean up the book and tighten the way the army is constructed.

 

Games Workshop want to make 40k a competitive game (which is fine), but they way they bloat this book in particular and the wishy-washy, freeform army+detachment construction is acting counter to that intent.

As it stands, 40k doesn't offer a truly competitive experience, nor does it offer true freedom of expression for people focused on the lore.

 

A new codex will be a success if:

 

-It streamlines and consolidates various datasheets

-It finally removes the remaining firstborn units, replacing them with updated Primaris kits where appropriate.

-It locks in army construction in a way that is either more balanced, or more thematic. The middle ground isn't really working right now.

 

And for my personal desire, GW should clean up the way the divergen chapters function;

 

Take the Space Wolves and the new Primaris Grey Hunters, Blood Claws and Head Takers. These are unique analogues to Intercessors, Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard Veterans. Because they exist, Space Wolves should no longer have access to the generic versions as they thematically don't make sense anymore, and it's added redundancy. The same applies to Dark Angels, Blood Angels, etc. Make the "Divergent" chapters actually Divergent, and not just armies with more options.

 

Having these double options for units with very similar roles, and in cases where the generic versions don't fit the aesthetic and culture of the Divergent army as well, is both a failure in the thematic sense, and in the balance sense. I do not believe that in a world where Grey Hunters exist, the Space Wolves are also training Intercessors in the ways favoured by Guilliman. They may have existed initially, but now the culture of the divergent chapters has had the time to influence the Primaris re-enforcements.

 

GW already caused the maximim level of rage possible - The anger caused by the introduction of the Primaris opened a new Warp Rift, and it's effects are still felt today. Rip the band-aid off, finish the job, end this purgatory once and for all.

Games Workshop have also recently shown that they are willng to relegate many units and models to legends, and to alter the ways armies function significantly, even to the detriment of existing collections.

Edited Wednesday at 11:18 AM by Orange Knight

[caprock_carbomb]

How soon is soon? Seems like we just got one. 

[jaxom]

4 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

Games Workshop want to make 40k a competitive game (which is fine), but they way they bloat this book in particular and the wishy-washy, freeform army+detachment construction is acting counter to that intent.

As it stands, 40k doesn't offer a truly competitive experience, nor does it offer true freedom of expression for people focused on the lore.

What do you mean by "a competitive game" in this context? "Competitive" gets used as a synonym for "tournament" a lot and I don't want to make assumptions either way. 

[HeadlessCross]

Supposedly it'll be a release of more special characters, which is frankly the only way that non-Ultramarine Chapters are going to be playable in any context unless "use whatever character you want" from 5th comes back. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

2 hours ago, caprock_carbomb said:

How soon is soon? Seems like we just got one. 

Like a year and half ago, based on the road map a potential 2.0 wouldn’t be until late summer or fall.

 

but also based on the roadmap I don’t think it’s a codex 2.0 as much as supplements.

[Marshal Reinhard]

GW should just make a sheet called Tacticessors that can take both old school and nu options and be done with it.

[jaxom]

I’d like a dual kit box like Incursors/Infiltrators to build Intercessors/Tactical Squad. Tactical Squad doesn’t get the new Fury of the Chapter shooting bonus, but get one special weapon per 5 men and their 10th edition Index rule of Fall Back and Shoot/Charge.

[HeadlessCross]

12 hours ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

GW should just make a sheet called Tacticessors that can take both old school and nu options and be done with it.

The Deathwatch index allows this basically and it's perfectly balanced. 

[Tokugawa]

GW removed 15 unit entries in upcoming SW codex. Some of them even have modern plastic kits.

 

Aren't that reduced rule bloating a lot? How many is enough?

[Emperor Ming]

On 4/2/2025 at 4:29 PM, caprock_carbomb said:

How soon is soon? Seems like we just got one. 

Because the vast majority of gamers will buy their dex, so why not fleece them a second time per edition, its guaranteed £££

 

Or at least that's how i assume gw sees it