New Drop Pod

[phoenix01]

One more reason not to like 10th edition.

[LemartesTheLost]

1 hour ago, HeadlessCross said:

I know there's complaints about the doors being open, but at the same time I feel like they should be deployed with open doors to begin with. It isn't like they're other dedicated transports where you go in and out. It's just a giant machine that drops you off and that's it. 

 

Yes true, but at the same time the doors were the only space where you could really freehand or customize it to your Chapter specifically. 

[Nephaston]

Minicompare is up to date.  Rejoice, it is the same size, no new purchases necessary if you own the old one.

 

 

Now looking at it side by side, it seems they also lowered the thruster, which makes me wonder if the doors are also shorter, which would change the footprint for opened doors to be smaller on the new ones.

 

 

Edit: the doors are definitely shorter, which will result in a smaller footprint.

 

Still, no real reason to buy new if you have the old ones, just close them up and use a circular pad of the approximate dimensions.

Edited yesterday at 08:29 PM by Nephaston
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[Marshal Loss]

Interesting that they bothered updating the drop pod if the dimensions are same, I'd expected some kind of Primaris super brick - not a fan of the doors being open but at least the terrain is modular as per the article. Wonder what the ramifications are for 30k.

 

The big hope for me based off this to be honest is that they consider updating the classic marine vehicle kits - Rhino, Predator, Land Raider - to the quality of modern GW production.

[Rain]

27 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said:

The big hope for me based off this to be honest is that they consider updating the classic marine vehicle kits - Rhino, Predator, Land Raider - to the quality of modern GW production.

Rhino and LR being released as new Chaos kits with upgrade sprues for each Cult Legion, and various undivided spikes and skulls, would be absolutely amazing. It would help separate the older tracked vehicles of CSM from the Primaris grav vehicles or modern loyalists.

 

Probably just a pipe dream though.

[Moonstalker]

30 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said:

Interesting that they bothered updating the drop pod if the dimensions are same, I'd expected some kind of Primaris super brick - not a fan of the doors being open but at least the terrain is modular as per the article. Wonder what the ramifications are for 30k.

 

The big hope for me based off this to be honest is that they consider updating the classic marine vehicle kits - Rhino, Predator, Land Raider - to the quality of modern GW production.

 

The Deimos Predator is the same size and has the same weapon options (plus a few extras) as the old Pred, while being entirely new sprues.  It's really quite easy to assemble, though I am still figuring out the best way to magnetize the main gun.

[OttoVonAwesome]

The doors are a little shorter. That's kinda nice.

[Marshal Loss]

32 minutes ago, Moonstalker said:

 

The Deimos Predator is the same size and has the same weapon options (plus a few extras) as the old Pred, while being entirely new sprues.  It's really quite easy to assemble, though I am still figuring out the best way to magnetize the main gun.

 

All of the HH vehicle kits are fantastic, but I'll always have a soft spot for the 40k era Mars-pattern kits, and would still love to see them redone.

[Kharn13]

#yearofchaos

[Mazer Rackham]

@Evil Eye Behold! The prophecy is fulfilled - it's a....Primaris Thunderbum Deployificator!

[Burni]

1 hour ago, Marshal Loss said:

The big hope for me based off this to be honest is that they consider updating the classic marine vehicle kits - Rhino, Predator, Land Raider - to the quality of modern GW production.

Based on this and the jump pack intercessor kit, we need to be careful what we wish for. Hopefully those updated vehicles would be done by the people that brought us the new terminators and sternguard rather than this…

[mecanojavi99]

1 hour ago, Marshal Loss said:

Interesting that they bothered updating the drop pod if the dimensions are same, I'd expected some kind of Primaris super brick - not a fan of the doors being open but at least the terrain is modular as per the article. Wonder what the ramifications are for 30k.

 

The big hope for me based off this to be honest is that they consider updating the classic marine vehicle kits - Rhino, Predator, Land Raider - to the quality of modern GW production.

Unless it's for Chaos I don't see GW doing new versions of the old pre Primaris vehicles, specially when new Primaris versions are already a thing.

 

Honestly, I would much rather they went full Chaos with those and released a proper Chaos Predator/Land Rider kit instead of the current "loyalist Predator/Land Rider but with some spiky bits"

[grailkeeper]

I thought drop pods had seats?

[nodnol88]

It looks fatter. Like less teardrop and more Sherbert Lemon. 

[Tokugawa]

11 minutes ago, mecanojavi99 said:

Unless it's for Chaos I don't see GW doing new versions of the old pre Primaris vehicles, specially when new Primaris versions are already a thing.

 

Honestly, I would much rather they went full Chaos with those and released a proper Chaos Predator/Land Rider kit instead of the current "loyalist Predator/Land Rider but with some spiky bits"

Wait several weeks and we will see whether DG/TS/WE lost access to predators.

[roryokane]

13 minutes ago, grailkeeper said:

I thought drop pods had seats?

They've never had seats as far as I'm aware. Most lore seems to have marines standing in some sort of restraint harness which releases on impact.

[ThaneOfTas]

Honestly, I don't mind it. Having the doors be permanently open is not great, and i echo the concerns as to how exactly this is meant to fit onto modern boards, not to mention transportation, but I am very glad that it still looks like a Drop pod. Considering the unholy imaginings of what a "Primaris Thunderbum Deployificator." would look like, this is much, much better than i feared. I never really cared for the Storm Bolter so the loss of that doesn't worry me. Plus coming two to a box will hopefully mean that they dont get too much more expensive per model.

 

All of that being said, I did just go and grab a second of the current kit while I still could, for heresy if nothing else.

[Chyttering]

I thought the longstanding FAQ was that drop pod doors were ignored for measuring distance, and only the 'vertical' hull counted as a vehicle. Do I have that completely wrong?

 

In past editions I pretty frequently had a drop pod scatter close enough to a building that not all five doors could open. This was fine both narratively and gameplay-wise - some doors stay up, some go down, marines deploy from the open doors. I haven't used a pod in 10e, but I guess the equivalent would be that 9" separation from enemy units leaves the pod deploying against a building...except it can't? If the entire model has to deploy flat, then the entire model should count for measuring - not that there's much advantage to having a bigger model with no guns besides (possibly) area denial if the new rules allow them to do that.

 

From a purchasing perspective, if these are ETB and a box of two costs the same as a single moveable-door drop pod, that seems like a great deal and it's one less thing to worry about. But I can't see myself every paying $100+ for a box of two.

[Orange Knight]

I wouldn't be surprised if the rules are updated significantly. 

Imagine that these pods are deployed before the game starts, whilst the armies are being set up, similar to infiltrating style units.

 

They could function as deployment points for selected units.

 

The footprint is so big that I just don't see these working very well using the 9" deployment limitations on modern table sized and with how big modern armies are.

[twopounder]

Was it really so hard to make rules for it that they had to make a static model with no option for closed doors? Not like it would have been hard to make the bottom a base that the doors opened into if you wanted the open position. That dramatically reduces modelling opportunities outside of the tabletop. Also, you can't squeeze this between buildings or other terrain. Seems like a huge step backwards.

 

Also, just occurred to me - this would be annoying to transport. It won't fit in existing army transports and would take a LOT of space. Imagine trying to haul in 6 of these.

Edited 22 hours ago by twopounder

[Commissar Greif]

The doors being stuck open is a real double-edged sword, if you ask me. On one hand, those doors have always been fiddly and made the model a pain to handle on the able, on the other, it kinda reduces the drop pod to glorified terrain. Worst part is you can no longer making swooshing and crashing sounds as you place them on the table.

[MoriyaSchism]

6 hours ago, Marshal Loss said:

 

All of the HH vehicle kits are fantastic, but I'll always have a soft spot for the 40k era Mars-pattern kits, and would still love to see them redone.

40K really needs an Old World style format set before the Great Rift. There's 10,000 years of stuff to explore. I'm starting to grow tired of this M42 stuff and it's making me fall out of love with Warhammer 40,000. The only thing I look forward to these days are Horus Heresy releases and Kill Team, but terrible design decisions are slowly creeping into Kill Team with the recent Death Cult Assassin model serving as an example of particularly bad rework of a classic model. Kind of sad that whenever I see a new Imperium release for the main game my thoughts are almost always: "How can I salvage this?"

[Bouargh]

20 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

40K really needs an Old World style format set before the Great Rift. 

 

Be patient. It will come. In a decade or so.

 

8 hours ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

The doors are a little shorter. That's kinda nice.

 

I dunno... It gives IMO to the module a kind of squatish look. I am in fact waiting for the rules in order to decide if shorter doors are meaningful or not.

Should everything be measured from hull excluding doors, then I will definitiely stick to the older model. Should shorter door have any kind of impact rulewise (for example for deep strike distance exclusion) then I may eventually be even more disappointed by the reworked model as I am  not that sure that a, say, 1" span length difference will be that distinctive ... In a nutshell what is keeping me excited in this piece of news is more the lure of updated rules than the model itself... Kinda hopium, so that my Russ Claw packed with all its Drop Pods can be viable again.

[Karhedron]

50 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

40K really needs an Old World style format set before the Great Rift.

 

I think that HH already fills that niche.

 

[Karhedron]

10 hours ago, Moonstalker said:

Rules-wise, I wonder if they will do something interesting like give it the equivalent of infiltrate.

 

I think it probably needs something. The problem with the huge footprint and the smaller table size is finding somewhere to deploy it. Even if your opponent doesn't make a deliberate attempt to screen it out, it can be hard to deploy it somewhere meaningful.