New Drop Pod

[INKS]

44 minutes ago, Jukkiz said:

what proplems? That it was "too hard to build" ?

if the doors were open / closed. this was a constant debate from my understanding. I mean that was one of the reasons for redoing it.

[crimsondave]

1 hour ago, Jukkiz said:

what proplems? That it was "too hard to build" ?

I say this as one who vastly prefers the old kit.  It was GOD AWFUL to build.  Worse than the Land Raider imo.

[Dark Shepherd]

So it took Cawl 10k years to improve doors?

[Nephaston]

1 hour ago, Dark Shepherd said:

So it took Cawl 10k years to improve doors?

Ackshually, it took him 10k years to get back to Guillidude and get permission to get all the stuff of out of his vault. A prime example of what happens when all the decision making is done by one person without planning for this person maybe not being available all the time. Grimdark bureaucracy. 

[Evil Eye]

4 hours ago, Dark Shepherd said:

So it took Cawl 10k years to improve doors?

Well, given his "improvement" seems to have been to remove the engine entirely and prevent the doors closing at all (both rather fundamental issues for a vehicle designed to get boots on the ground via orbital drop), I think there's a good reason why it took ten thousand years and the Imperium getting bisected before anyone let him peddle his wares!

 

Anyway, nice to see the older model will still be available. The Primaris Thunderbum Deployificator can rot on shelves. Though I still think a conversion STL to make a fully detailed base, functional doors and fill in that nasty void would be cool, if now a little unnecessary.

[Antarius]

It seems very odd to have two kits for the same model. I mean, I can see why they wanted to redo it, but surely it must be bad business to have two separate kits for the same thing - even if for no other reason than that it takes up more shelf space.

[de Selby]

Horus Heresy is all about having more than one kit for the same model!

 

I built and painted the new pods, they were inexpensive and look fine on the shelf.   The old pod was better (I never had any trouble building it when it came out, just built and painted the base/doors, top and interior seperately) so I am glad it is still around for people who don't mind kits with loads of parts.

[Antarius]

2 hours ago, de Selby said:

Horus Heresy is all about having more than one kit for the same model!

 

I built and painted the new pods, they were inexpensive and look fine on the shelf.   The old pod was better (I never had any trouble building it when it came out, just built and painted the base/doors, top and interior seperately) so I am glad it is still around for people who don't mind kits with loads of parts.

Well, yeah, I guess you’re right. But I don’t think armour marks are quite the same thing.

 

I really hated building the old pods and I have ten or so (don’t ask me why…), so I am not going to get the new ones, although I think they look just as good as the old ones. Don’t get me wrong, I guess it’s nice that both are available, I just think it’s a little puzzling that it’s the case.

[Nephaston]

Still holding out for them to be funny and pull a deimos- or ryza-pattern drop pod out of nowhere.

 

 

[TheVoidDragon]

I really cannot understand them re-releasing the previous kit at all. It just seems a completely baffling thing for them to do. 
 

It sort of invalidates all the "it was difficult to build!" claim being a reason, It's taking up another limited inventory space, it's not even a product that there needs to be 2 similar-but-not-quite releases of, and it doesn't even have any Horus Heresy specific elements that required it releasing for the Horus Heresy again.

Just why?

[derLumpi]

May be Heresy players have no issues building it? 

[Nephaston]

8 minutes ago, TheVoidDragon said:

Just why?

Pencil pusher decision; Now they can "accurately" tell which drop pod purchases are 30k driven and which are 40k driven and allocate accordingly. Just ignore that they finally written the 40k rules to force doors open and ignore them for anything, meaning having a separate model be somewhat pointless. Also the new pods are a terrain kit and therefore made in china for much cheaper, wouldn't be surprised if they are mostly stored there before being shipped out.

 

Do not try to comprehend the logic of the pencil pusher, that way lies madness

Edited Monday at 03:48 PM by Nephaston

[ThePenitentOne]

When I managed to find one of the old kits on a shelf in Toronto, it felt like I had completed a quest. I had been worried that the kit would disappear once the new one hit the shelves. Now that I find it will survive as a heresy kit, I'm glad... My original scenario is better with two pods than one...

 

But it also makes the successfully completed quest to find the last old-school pod on the shelf feel a little less cool.

 

It's nice to know I don't have to rush the purchase of the second kit though. No point in buying a second kit til the first one is painted, as long it's not going anywhere.

[Interrogator Stobz]

I'm baffled as to how there is a perception that the old ones are hard to build, I found them as easy as any vehicle model.

Painting all those surfaces is another story, and the new ones still have that issue.

Super glad they have kept the OGs, much better kits.

But also baffled as to why both, oh well, that's James Workshop for us.

Edited Monday at 04:38 PM by Interrogator Stobz

[Jukkiz]

1 hour ago, Nephaston said:

Pencil pusher decision; Now they can "accurately" tell which drop pod purchases are 30k driven and which are 40k driven and allocate accordingly. Just ignore that they finally written the 40k rules to force doors open and ignore them for anything, meaning having a separate model be somewhat pointless. Also the new pods are a terrain kit and therefore made in china for much cheaper, wouldn't be surprised if they are mostly stored there before being shipped out.

 

Do not try to comprehend the logic of the pencil pusher, that way lies madness

there´s funny joke somewhere around here about guilliman

[Cleon]

The 'old' drop pod kit was amongst the harder of the vehicle kits from GW to build for me (if you want moving doors), at least partially because of the final assembly step that has all the bits coming together to hold up the engine part without dislodging the harnessy bits is complicated by my clumsy large sausage fingers.

 

However after the first one, when I realised the knack to it, the other two went together fine.

[RXtacy]

The new drop pods are already on sale from Target for $71, which I find slightly amusing.

https://www.target.com/p/drop-pods-space-marines-warhammer-40k/-/A-1004553525#lnk=sametab

[Nephaston]

27 minutes ago, RXtacy said:

The new drop pods are already on sale from Target for $71, which I find slightly amusing.

https://www.target.com/p/drop-pods-space-marines-warhammer-40k/-/A-1004553525#lnk=sametab

The new drop pods have been available since 12th july. 

[Ming the Merciless]

2 hours ago, TheVoidDragon said:

I really cannot understand them re-releasing the previous kit at all. It just seems a completely baffling thing for them to do. 
 

It sort of invalidates all the "it was difficult to build!" claim being a reason, It's taking up another limited inventory space, it's not even a product that there needs to be 2 similar-but-not-quite releases of, and it doesn't even have any Horus Heresy specific elements that required it releasing for the Horus Heresy again.

Just why?

 

Because they are firstborn scale?

[DemonGSides]

1 hour ago, RXtacy said:

The new drop pods are already on sale from Target for $71, which I find slightly amusing.

https://www.target.com/p/drop-pods-space-marines-warhammer-40k/-/A-1004553525#lnk=sametab

 

Alongside what Nephaston has said, it's also sold by a 3rd party through Target's store front, so it's not Target selling you this, but War Battle Games.

This same structure is now found in most major retailers; Walmart has done it for a while, and the king of this practice is Amazon.

12 minutes ago, Ming the Merciless said:

 

Because they are firstborn scale?

 

It also has weapons.  New Pod has no weapons, and HH wanted to keep the weapons.

[Rhavien]

Not that HH3.0 kept that much stuff... Ouch 

Regarding the old drop pod I ever built two of them and I found it tedious to clean mold lines of five times the same stuff. It felt boring. The assembly however was okay for me. If you trimmed enough plastic they slide together just fine. 

[redmapa]

This whole thing is quite ridiculous but Im glad they kept the old one, I have no issue with the new drop pod but if given the choice I would still take the old version simply because being able to move the doors does something in my monkey brain so if I ever need more I will probably buy the 30k one. This also makes sense with the way 30k does kits and upgrades, now they can just sell a weapon sprue for Deathstorm Drop Pods so you can swap the passenger seats for a giant missile launcher or something, i personally left the seats empty on a couple of my DPs to eventually do exactly that so its not such a hard idea to implement, so a separate sprue or just add the sprue to the drop pod kit and you can have a whole new unit without having to redesign a completely new kit if they had gone with the new drop pod sculpt.

[Interrogator Stobz]

I magnetized my three Pods so I can remove the Deathstorm Missiles, now that was a bit tricky as builds go, the Pods themselves were easy.

[ThePenitentOne]

I also think it's cool to have both kits available; if you wanted to make a drop army, mixing in a few new pod 2-packs would save you some money. I have a Spacehulk-esque Baording action scenario that was planned with two pods in mind. If I ever have enough Deathwatch that I need more pods {unlikely since the Blackstar is one of my favourite models in the game), I'd probably pick up a two-pack.

[INKS]

no how idea how it works in 30k but all they had to do with 40k was write "the doors are always considered open"