Tacitus Posted yesterday at 07:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:17 AM Darkshroud says Models have the benefit of cover. Benefit of Cover says Models with a 3+ or better can't have the benefit of cover vs AP0. Generally mutually exclusive there. And given most Dark Angels are 3+ or better and most basic weapons are AP0 that really pulls the oomph out of a Darkshroud. Just wondering if anyone has seen it come up on a FAQ or anything yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385761-anyone-seen-an-official-answer-on-darkshroud-vs-3-vs-ap0/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted yesterday at 08:34 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:34 AM I haven't seen any FAQs so I would assume RAW apply. The best place for a Darkshroud is protecting units with a 2+ save (Land Raider, Dreads, Vindicator) as your opponent will really need to higher AP weapons to crack these targets. Dark Angels Ironstorm with a Darkshroud or two shielding and armoured spearhead was quite a popular build last year IIRC. Add in Azrael as a CP battery and chuck in just enough infantry to hold Objectives and counter-charge any melee threats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385761-anyone-seen-an-official-answer-on-darkshroud-vs-3-vs-ap0/#findComment-6106977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted 14 hours ago Author Share Posted 14 hours ago 13 hours ago, Karhedron said: I haven't seen any FAQs so I would assume RAW apply. The best place for a Darkshroud is protecting units with a 2+ save (Land Raider, Dreads, Vindicator) as your opponent will really need to higher AP weapons to crack these targets. Dark Angels Ironstorm with a Darkshroud or two shielding and armoured spearhead was quite a popular build last year IIRC. Add in Azrael as a CP battery and chuck in just enough infantry to hold Objectives and counter-charge any melee threats. That's the problem with the RAW. Its Immovable Object vs Irresistable Force. One rule says they have it, the other rules says they don't. At best you might get Bespoke rule trumps core rule, but I don't know if that's a thing either now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385761-anyone-seen-an-official-answer-on-darkshroud-vs-3-vs-ap0/#findComment-6107161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted 32 minutes ago Share Posted 32 minutes ago 13 hours ago, Tacitus said: That's the problem with the RAW. Its Immovable Object vs Irresistable Force. One rule says they have it, the other rules says they don't. At best you might get Bespoke rule trumps core rule, but I don't know if that's a thing either now. I think you are mistaken in assuming it is a bug rather than a feature. They could have given the Darkshroud a bespoke rule that granted a +1 Save to all units within its bubble but it would probably have been significantly more expensive. I think it works exactly as it was designed to and has been priced accordingly. It does not do much against small arms fire but it does provide protection against Bolt Rifles and above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385761-anyone-seen-an-official-answer-on-darkshroud-vs-3-vs-ap0/#findComment-6107248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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