=] EVENT: Call to Arms 2025 [=

[Dr_Ruminahui]

3 hours ago, Agnostic Doggo said:

Cheeky question, if you do a titan from imperialisdoes it qualify for the Princeps tag?

 

Points values will be coming soon, but <spolier> the imperialis titans and the forgeworld 40K titans will be having different points values, and any awarded badges will reflect that. 

Edited May 16 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Agnostic Doggo]

Chibi Princeps?
Mini Princeps?
_Princeps?

But Thanks for the answer

[PeteySödes]

Excellent, gives me a chance to build more without guilt. 

[crimsondave]

I’ll definitely be participating, but I’m gonna take a more relaxed approach this year.  Love this event.

[Brother Argent]

Just when I decide to have a hobby hiatus...

 

In fact I have struggled to have the enthusiams to really paint mauch of anything since this challenge last year.  Tried with the March for March but got no where there. 

 

Sad thing is all my Tau from that are past the point I could vow them.

 

Still I have plenty of models.  Just not sure I have the drive to try this year.  See how I go.

 

(We all know I am going to try, and likely fail...)

[Dread]

Well I'll just have to see what I don't have painted, it's not much but should be able to vow something. 

[Wormwoods]

4 hours ago, Brother Argent said:

(We all know I am going to try, and likely fail...)

Just start with a small vow, see how you're feeling about it. Maybe it helps reboot the hobby desire, y'know? 

[Agnostic Doggo]

For the record, I don't expect an Imperialis Titan to be worthy of its own badge, The Princeps badge would be fun to earn but it isn't a small project.
I just saw a cheecky opening, I've chatted a bit with Dr_Ruminahui, and it might be worth exploring Imperialis model's places in call to arms, 30k Epic not being too far removed from the Forum's focus of 40k. But it certainly shouldn't be a short cut to that badge. Or at Least that's my thinking, which I've shared with our host. But I wanted to chuck my thinking here too so that if/when a formal ruling comes down it doesn't look like I'm justt agreeing with the commissar. 

That said, my pledges will likely be around a bunch of Chaos knights this year so I fully intend to paint up some big stompy boys!

[Norman Paperman]

On 5/17/2025 at 7:44 PM, Brother Argent said:

Just when I decide to have a hobby hiatus...

 

In fact I have struggled to have the enthusiams to really paint mauch of anything since this challenge last year.  Tried with the March for March but got no where there. 

 

Sad thing is all my Tau from that are past the point I could vow them.

 

Still I have plenty of models.  Just not sure I have the drive to try this year.  See how I go.

 

(We all know I am going to try, and likely fail...)

Don’t force yourself bro. If you’ve already got a negative streak going, don’t add to it, as compounding failures will only make the burnout worse. 
 

My advice if you’re going to participate at all: make a single tiny vow, one unit or one model in the last month of the thing. Build on successes, learn to love it again. Go from there. 

Edited May 19 by Norman Paperman

[Celtic_cauldron]

Great news!!! Thanks Doc, for replacing Grotsmasha this year and thus allowing the event to happen.

 

Can't wait to pledge my Chaos Marines and Friends.

 

Celtic_Cauldron 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

4 Vows per Stronghold (Imperium):

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

- Vintage SM Scout Squad (10 models)

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

 

This would grant me 40 points. Correct?

[Jolemai]

11 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

4 Vows per Stronghold (Imperium):

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

- Vintage SM Scout Squad (10 models)

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

 

This would grant me 40 points. Correct?

 

... and the admiration of those who still adore Firstborn 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

4 hours ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

4 Vows per Stronghold (Imperium):

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

- Vintage SM Scout Squad (10 models)

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

- Vintage Tactical Squad (10 models)

 

This would grant me 40 points. Correct?

 

Almost - space marines have their own stronghold this year (Astartes), so can't be vowed in the Imperium stronghold.

 

You wouldn't have to make it 4 vows, if you didn't want, because 1 vow isn't necessarily one unit.  You can only vow one unit if you want, only part of a unit, parts of multiple units, break units across vows, etc - so long as all the individual models are from the same stronghold (or open models), it doesn't matter what units the individual models come from.

 

You could even have a vow combining stronghold models with "open" models that can be vowed in any stronghold.  For example, a vow in the Astartes forum could be a land raider (astartes), some necromunda minis (open) and some terrain (open)... or with no astartes models at all.

Edited May 23 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

8 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

 

Almost - space marines have their own stronghold this year (Astartes), so can't be vowed in the Imperium stronghold.

 

You wouldn't have to make it 4 vows, if you didn't want, because 1 vow isn't necessarily one unit.  You can only vow one unit if you want, only part of a unit, parts of multiple units, break units across vows, etc - so long as all the individual models are from the same stronghold (or open models), it doesn't matter what units the indiviudal models come from.

 

You could even have a vow combining stronghold models with "open" models that can be vowed in any stronghold.  For example, a vow in the sAsatartes forum could be a land raider (astartes), some necromunda minis (open) and some terrain (open)... or with no astartes models at all.

Thanks for the clarification. When the event starts then I will just pour all of my remaining vintage Astartes models into one vow. The time frame should be enough to finish them all.

 

Is it legal to overhaul already built and painted models for the event? With overhaul I mean add a significant more elaborate paint scheme, OSL, Decals and weathering. Most of my models designated for the event have been built and painted black during 4th 40K.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

On the overhaul issue, that depends on what is involved.

 

- Being built isn't a problem, prebuilt models are perfectly acceptable (and indeed are the norm).

 

- Being painted can be problem.  If you are totally repainting (or painting over) the model, that's fine - that's the same as starting from a fresh model.  However, if you are taking an existing paint job and improving it (as it sounds like you are doing) that's outside the scope of Call to Arms - better to go vow it in the 12 Months of Hobby, which I think allows for partially completed models.

 

Basically, being a competition between forums, we try to keep it as fair as possible to everyone - which becomes very difficult if there are different baselines for model completeness for vowed models.

[firestorm40k]

4 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

Being painted can be problem.  If you are totally repainting (or painting over) the model, that's fine

I was wondering about spray undercoat - I'm planning on entering with Necrons, I have 3 units of Warriors that are built, primed black, then sprayed with Leadbelcher. That's the starting point for all my Necron miniatures, then going on to dry brushing, washes, etc. Would these be acceptable? If not, I have some Immortals and other Necron miniatures I can use for this, that are all assembled but as yet un-primed. Thank you! 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Spayed under coat is fine, as that puts everyone on the same level as those using coloured primers.  Different sub assemblies can also be sprayed different colours (so, on a knight, if the armour and chasis are seperate components, they can start sprayed different colours).  You just can't start with a single piece, non-componented model sprayed more than one colour (other than a single colour over a primer layer).

Edited May 23 by Dr_Ruminahui

[GhostMalone]

I haven’t done this since like 2015 so I’ll see if I can muster some motivation to paint some points!

[Grotsmasha]

I really need to sort out what I'm going to vow this year....

[WrathOfTheLion]

I'll be unable to really participate the first couple weeks, but I should be able to look at pledging something in July.

[Norman Paperman]

18 hours ago, Grotsmasha said:

I really need to sort out what I'm going to vow this year....

6,000 points each of Admech and Genestealer Cults. You're welcome!

Edited May 26 by Norman Paperman

[SgtSharp]

I'm building all the stuff for my first vow now, as always it will be a small and modest vow.......

[Dr_Ruminahui]

The Strongholds are now up, but can't be posted in until June 15 when the event begins.

 

Astartes / Imperium / Chaos / Xenos / Heresy

 

More detailed point values for each subfaction are in the subfaction Rally Points.

 

In the meantime, if you have any questions please post them in a Rally Point or message me @Dr_Ruminahui.  Happy plotting and planning!

 

 

[Antarius]

On 5/15/2025 at 6:57 PM, Dr_Ruminahui said:

 

That is correct.  That said, if you are doing things in subassemblies, you can have different assemblies primed different colours.

IIRC bases are optional? Hypothetically (as in, not hypothetically at all), if you have a bunch of primed models where you're already started work on the bases, would you be able to use those? If not, I'll just find another project and I really wouldn't want to seem like I'm trying to game the system, so if it feels wrong by all means say no 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

9 hours ago, Antarius said:

IIRC bases are optional? Hypothetically (as in, not hypothetically at all), if you have a bunch of primed models where you're already started work on the bases, would you be able to use those? If not, I'll just find another project and I really wouldn't want to seem like I'm trying to game the system, so if it feels wrong by all means say no 

 

I think there is probably a way we can work this out.  Some questions:

 

1.  Are the unstarted models on the started bases?  If so, are they removeable?

2.  Do you have blank bases you could put the models on termperarily?