Jolemai Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Call to Arms is back this year, but @Dr_Ruminahui will be running it for @Grotsmasha. For those new to B&C or simply unaware, Call to Arms is a Forum wide event that this year runs from June 15th until September 15th! The Forum is split up into five Strongholds; Imperium, loyal Astartes (which is new this year), Chaos, Xenos, and Heresy, with all five factions competing against one another to paint the most in the three months time limit. There will be a Central hub thread for each of the Strongholds in the Work in Progress section of the Forge forum which will be linked once it's live. We can use this thread to cross post in and track/give motivation to those participating. For those of you familiar with previous Call to Arms events, the rules are exactly the same this year except for loyal Astartes being their own stronghold. Check out the full rules here If you've got any questions, give @Dr_Ruminahui or one of the Moderation Team a shout! Dr_Ruminahui and greatcrusade08 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 oh yes perfect timing, ill be signing on for this Dr_Ruminahui and Jolemai 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6109924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I should definitely be able to get on this for some points! Dr_Ruminahui and Jolemai 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6109940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) STRONGHOLDS OPEN JUNE 15, 2025 For the Full Rules and where to place your vows for the Astartes, go to the The Astartes Stronghold Start Date: 15th June End Date: 15th September Here is a more detailed list of points per model specifically for Astartes The below list should cover every model for the Astartes (if I'm missed any, please let me, @Dr_Ruminahui, know and I'll figure out their point values and add them); 1pt Scouts, PA mkII through mkX, Terminators 2pts Centurions, Bikes, Thunderwolf Cavalry, Outriders, Firestrike Turret, Thundefire Cannon, 3pts Attack Bikes, Land Speeders, ATVs, Dreadnoughts, Invictor Warsuit, Redemptors 4pts Land Speeder Storm/Darkshroud/Vengeance, Stormtalon/hawk, Nephilim, Dark Talon, Storm Speeders, Armiger Knights 5pts Nemesis Dreadknight, Rhino Chassis Tanks, Impulsor, Gladiators, Drop Pod, 6pts Storm/Raven/Wolf/Fang, Corvus Blackstar, Sicaran Chassis Tanks, Landraiders, Spartans, Repulsors, Hammerfall Bunker 8pts Glaive, Fellblade, Falchion, Fire Raptor, Storm Eagle 10pts Mastadon, Astraeus, Questoris, Valliant, Castellan, and Cerastus Knights 5pts Lieutenants, Ancients, Apothecaries, Techmarines, Librarians, Chaplains, Captains, Chapter Masters 10pts Sanguinor, Lion El Jonson, Roboute Guilliman, Logan Grimnir 40K Scale Titans 20pts Arcastus Knights, Warhound Titan, Thunderhawk 30pts Reaver Titan 40pts Warbringer Titan 50pts Warlord Titan, Stormbird Terrain 1pt 3 Munitorum Barrels, 4 Munitorum Crates, Zone Morialtis/Gallowdark Column, Octarius Ramshackle Bridges 2pts Aegis Defence Line Section, Aegis Defence Platform, Galvanic Servo-haulers, Thermic Plasma Conduit Section, Imperialis Ruins Wall Section, Zone Morialtis/Gallowdark Wall, Octarius Scrap Heap/Barricade 3pts Fronteris Vox Antenna, Fronteris Auspex Shrine, Thermo-exchanger Shrine, Octarius Oil Rig, Necromunda Fuel Tanks 4pts Munitorum Container, Mechsnicus Transterrsnic Gantry, Galvanic Servo-crane, Big'ead Bossbunka, Skull Alter, Noctilith Crown, Octarius Ramshackle Walls 5pts Tidewall Droneport, Tidewall Shieldline, Feculant Gnarlmaw, Miasmic Malignifier 6pts Fronteris Landing Pad, Mechanicus Forgeshine, Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent 8pts Fronteris Hab Bunker, Manufactorum Administratus, 10pts Zone Morialtis Gang Stronghold Note: Custom/Scratchbuilt terrain- use this list as a guide as to how many points tour terrain is worth, but please make sure to mention your terrain is custom when Vowing. All points are per model. For example if you pledge 20 Intercessors (1ptx20), 3 Outriders (2ptsx3), a Redmptor (3pts), and a Gravis Captain (5pts), your vow would be worth 34pts If you have any questions or queries, or there's a model you want to paint but isn't listed, just @Dr_Ruminahui and I'll be more than happy to help you out. Please feel free use this thread as a place to share your thoughts, ideas, and WIPs prior to the Event to motivate and inspire the Blood Angels and the Astartes to Victory!!! After June 15th, please do the same in the Astartes Stronghold! Rules and Place your Vow => The Astartes Stronghold Edited June 15 by Dr_Ruminahui Jolemai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6113342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 Any thoughts on what you folk plan to paint this summer? I'm looking to amass 25 points in total again, and will likely start off with a jump Chaplain and some terrain. Deus_Ex_Machina and Dr_Ruminahui 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6113889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I've got my deredeo ballistus proxy, as well as some inceptors, mephy, and the Sanguinor. what's the points on the Sanguinor anyway? Jolemai and Dr_Ruminahui 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6113963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Sanguinor is 5. Jolemai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6113966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 That's fine, but I have to wonder why mephy is ten then. Jolemai and DemonGSides 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6113969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Because Mephiston is much closer to primarch sized, while Sanguinor is basically normal hero sized with some streamers holding him in the air. Basically, previously only primarchs (and abaddon) were 10, but I've noticed that many armies now have a centerpiece model that are more detailed and on a larger base. In future CtAs, there may be an "intermediate" hero category between the 5 and 10 point marks, but I didn't turn my mind to it early enough this year to do that. Paladin777 and Jolemai 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6113971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I read through the rules, but wanted to check: am i right in thinking you make a pledge, once finished you can make a second one to a max of four? Jolemai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6114015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, greatcrusade08 said: I read through the rules, but wanted to check: am i right in thinking you make a pledge, once finished you can make a second one to a max of four? Up to three vow sequentially. The fourth vow (Jobs' a Big'Un) is for 10pt+ models that falls outside the three, and has the entire 3 month period to be completed. For example vow 1 you pledge a Chaplain (5pts) and Sanguinius (10pts). Once you complete the Chaplain, you may make your second vow BEFORE completing Sanguinius. You may even add another 10pt+ model that would fall into the Jobs' a Big'Un category. Jolemai, Dr_Ruminahui and greatcrusade08 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6114040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Thats great thanks, ive literally got a whole army to paint so not sure how to structure the vows, ill probably start with a couple units and character and do a second vow once ive done the units. Dr_Ruminahui and Jolemai 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6114047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Yeah, you don't need to work everything out beforehand. While many people like to make a big initial vow (as that can be motivating for them), another tack is to vow what you think you can reasonably paint in a given period time (say the first month), see how long that takes to complete, then make your second vow with what you could paint and in how long in determining what your second vow should be. Jolemai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 I don't have much of a horse in the race since I'm not painting BA for this go round, but I don't get how Mephiston is 5 more points than the Sanguinor. These are both box built and I would think they'd be the same. Dr_Ruminahui and Jolemai 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) Minicompare deceived me - those are much closer to the same size than I thought, so I need to figure out whether Sanguinor is bigger than I thought or Mephison smaller. So you are right, they should be the same points, whether that be 5 or 10. Do you have a primarch or Abaddon you could throw in that picture with them? Or, if not, some random space marine captain or character? Those 40mm bases? Edited June 9 by Dr_Ruminahui Jolemai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said: Minicompare deceived me - those are much closer to the same size than I thought, so I need to figure out whether Sanguinor is bigger than I thought or Mephison bigger. So you are right, they should be the same points, whether that be 5 or 10. Do you have a primarch or Abaddon you could throw in that picture with them? Or, if not, some random space marine captain or character? Those 40mm bases? Yep both are on 40's. My Primarch is dead so I don't have any of the "mortal" primarchs to put next to him on hand, but here's the two of them with a new style Terminator, the Terminator Captain from Leviathan (Which is a 50mm I believe) and then the Dark Vengeance Hellbrute which I think is similar or slightly bigger to the primarchs. I find Mini compare to not be very reliable unfortunately. Some scaling problems. Also sorry about the Hellbrute dust LOL. As you can tell, he got built and then promptly shoved into the back of a shelf. Edited June 9 by DemonGSides Jolemai and Grotsmasha 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) Also just looking at Minicompare's direct comparison between Mephiston and the Hellbrute, I think their mephiston is a bit larger than reality; Edited June 9 by DemonGSides Dr_Ruminahui, Grotsmasha and Jolemai 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Even their Sanguinor is a little large compared to what he is in actuality. I wish they'd take real reference photos instead of relying on GW glamor shots that are often of 3D printed versions of the models, which REALLY throws out of whack the scaling. Jolemai and Dr_Ruminahui 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) Thanks a lot for that. Minicompare's Mephiston is definitely too large - they have him just slightly smaller than Abbadon. He should definitely only be 5 points. That said, Sanguinor might be 10, because of his wings (this is based on DemonGSidesCompare ). Let me think on that and I'll let you know and update the point totals. Edited June 9 by Dr_Ruminahui Jolemai and DemonGSides 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Glad to be of help! I would definitely agree that the Sanguinor feels our closest to 'center-piece' model, though Dante is also of a similar size. My version of him is in another room so I don't have immediate photo access, but from memory they're similar though Sanguinor's wings do add quite a bit of width to him compared to anything else in the BA realm. Jolemai and Dr_Ruminahui 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 When you have a moment, would you mind throwing up a DemonGSidesCompare of Dante as well? Thanks. DemonGSides and Jolemai 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 9 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said: When you have a moment, would you mind throwing up a DemonGSidesCompare of Dante as well? Thanks. Included Astorath tho I did modify mine so the axe positioning is "wrong" from GWs. Shouldn't massive change the silhouette tho. Dante appears to be on a 50, though he takes up a lot less room than the Sanguinor does. Grotsmasha, Jolemai and Dr_Ruminahui 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 3 hours ago, DemonGSides said: I don't have much of a horse in the race since I'm not painting BA for this go round, but I don't get how Mephiston is 5 more points than the Sanguinor. These are both box built and I would think they'd be the same. Mate, can I just say that your Mephiston in stunning DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 34 minutes ago, Jolemai said: Mate, can I just say that your Mephiston in stunning I wish I could claim the paint job as my own, but I found it online and took a gamble. It is truly a great job. One of these days I will actually field him! Jolemai and Dr_Ruminahui 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6115125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 After some thought, although I have concerns that even Sanguinus isn't quite large enough to really qualify, to make Sanguinus a 10 point model and the others will remain at 5. I've updated the point list. Jolemai and Paladin777 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385901-event-call-to-arms-2025-blood-angels/#findComment-6116018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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