Generic Characters leading SW units

[Wolf Guard Dan]

Was the rumor speculation or are people hearing things? I do think this is an 11th edition codex in 10th. Thought that about the world eater codex too. Not sure if it started with WE. Would make sense if the four chaos legion codexes were designed with 11th in mind. I do think there’s a chance Marine Codex 2.0 boosts speed for marines across the board. That would make it easy to get generic characters back. Or errata could fix this issue which I think is less likely due to WGBL being captain stats. 

[Grimtooth]

The more I think about it, the more I see this as being intentional 100%. 
 

Our new codex has GH/BC becoming Primaris and retaining chapter specific traits. The Primaris Marines created from SW stock are for all intents and purposes Guilliman codex adherent (some SW traits, but codex adherent tactically).

 

As far as gameplay, it leaves us with the ability to have two different tactical elements on the board of the same army, but does cut a distinct line in the ice of their abilities. 
 

My Primaris GH will have a host of things they can do and my SW Intercessors will have a host of things they can do, each in their own role. 

[RagnarökNRoll]

20 hours ago, Wispy said:

I was paging through the Crusader squad on games-workshop and noticed none of the other chapter specific infantry units get restricted units this way!

Yes, we are the first. It sucks to be the first to be subject to new balancing approaches, that's true. 

[WrathOfTheLion]

On 5/26/2025 at 3:12 AM, Karhedron said:

I wonder if this is an indication that Devastators are being phased out of the forthcoming Marine 2.0 codex. They have been mostly superseded by Hellblasters, Eradicators and Desolators. They are one of the few remaining Firstborn units. Perhaps Long Fangs are being phased because there is no longer going to be a squad for them to be based on. 

GW also only operates on whether the models are here, right now. So i don't really view it as indicative of anything. See the Chaos Lord with Jump Pack being removed in the 9E cut when CSM went through that process, only to be released again in 10E. So they could even make a new Long Fangs kit next edition, but it's not here right now, so it doesn't exist.