Captain Centos

[dienekes96]

Good!  Now I can sell my Finecast 2016 Captain Centos for a cool $250, no doubt.

[Commissar Greif]

9 hours ago, Casual Heresy said:

Bad news though for anyone who dosen't live near to a Warhammer shop. Bottom of the article implies he will only be available in stores and for a limited time.

 

Captain Centos returns to celebrate some major Warhammer store milestones - Warhammer Community

Closest GW shop to me is in Franklin, Tennessee. About an hour drive but I think I can wing it if I figure out some other stuff to do while I'm down there.

[Robbienw]

Funnily enough the previous 2016 finecast version of Centos was one of the first marines where they where working out the new marine scale.  He has extra long legs.

[skylerboodie]

this kind of limited-stock, store-only release just makes GW-Russia/China a far more guiltless option to get hold of one; they push people towards it when make it so hard or expensive to buy originals. imho.

[sarabando]

1 hour ago, skylerboodie said:

this kind of limited-stock, store-only release just makes GW-Russia/China a far more guiltless option to get hold of one; they push people towards it when make it so hard or expensive to buy originals. imho.

absolutely. 

I know some people will always object to buying the forbidden minis but its simple supply and demand and they really are not hitting that first one. 

[Joe]

Whenever another company releases a timed/event exclusive miniature they tend to be praised - whenever Games Workshop does it they are dragged over hot coals by the vocal minority.

 

These kind of releases have been a hallmark of the tabletop miniature industry for decades, and continue to be headliners at major events across the globe. Making them more broadly available immediately undermines the point of them being an event exclusive, commemorative model, etc.

[Marshal Reinhard]

14 minutes ago, Joe said:

Whenever another company releases a timed/event exclusive miniature they tend to be praised - whenever Games Workshop does it they are dragged over hot coals by the vocal minority.

 

These kind of releases have been a hallmark of the tabletop miniature industry for decades, and continue to be headliners at major events across the globe. Making them more broadly available immediately undermines the point of them being an event exclusive, commemorative model, etc.

Yeah sure, but some of us have to cross national borders to get to our closest warhammer

[Nephaston]

33 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

Yeah sure, but some of us have to cross national borders to get to our closest warhammer

Simply acquire the power of teleportation, it's just that easy 

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

A nice model. In the correct colours of the 7th it will look even better. 

[skylerboodie]

3 hours ago, Joe said:

 Making them more broadly available immediately undermines the point of them being an event exclusive, commemorative model, etc.

 

Which would be a good thing.

 

(i) event exclusives shouldn't be required to make an event worthwhile, and they penalise the majority of their customer base who can't attend them for a variety of reasons;

(ii) limited availability is not a prerequisite for a commemorative model; there is nothing to stop such a model being available via online made to order for example.

 

If you think the Catachan Colonel style-release is a good thing then I have no more words...

[darkhorse0607]

4 hours ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

Yeah sure, but some of us have to cross national borders to get to our closest warhammer

 

Or even in places like the US/Canada, you're still talking about a large number of folks that have to drive a minimum of a few hours to get to an official store. And you better hope they're actually open when you get there. I have one near by, but I've even lost count of the number of times I've driven there just to find out it's closed for whatever reason and they didn't post it on Google/Socials, which is why I just go to my FLGS 90% of the time now

 

40 minutes ago, skylerboodie said:

 

Which would be a good thing.

 

(i) event exclusives shouldn't be required to make an event worthwhile, and they penalise the majority of their customer base who can't attend them for a variety of reasons;

(ii) limited availability is not a prerequisite for a commemorative model; there is nothing to stop such a model being available via online made to order for example.

 

If you think the Catachan Colonel style-release is a good thing then I have no more words...

 

This is a good point. I can understand event-exclusive things. As frustrating as it was during the Forgeworld days, it was just understood that to get something like Sangiunius' display base, you had to go to an event or source it from someone who did

 

Commemorative ones are a different situation imo. According to the article they're celebrating their growth as a brand with this model, but they aren't going to let all of the people that support them but don't have a local store get it if they want it? I think a happy medium would just be to have it as made-to-order for a few weeks like they've done in the past

 

*Also. As to the point of "other companies don't get raked over the coals for something like this"

I think it's worth pointing out that the majority of these other companies are smaller than GW, that's why they get a pass. There is almost always frustration with limited release items (for example, there's been more of that in the running shoe industry which I follow and discourse around that is almost always negative), but more people are willing to give companies a pass if they don't start off the announcement article with "we are celebrating 500 stores across two continents" followed by "you will probably (if we make enough) be able to get it if you live near a store, your situation allows you to travel to it, and your store isn't out of stock by the time you get there"

 

At the end of the day, I'll try to get it because I think it's a pretty cool model. But I'm not going to be heartbroken if I don't. It'll just be another example of trying to buy something from GW but being unable to due to inventory issues, limited runs, etc. 

[Joe]

1 hour ago, skylerboodie said:

 

Which would be a good thing.

 

(i) event exclusives shouldn't be required to make an event worthwhile, and they penalise the majority of their customer base who can't attend them for a variety of reasons;

(ii) limited availability is not a prerequisite for a commemorative model; there is nothing to stop such a model being available via online made to order for example.

 

If you think the Catachan Colonel style-release is a good thing then I have no more words...

 

I can see where you're coming from - and it is really not the most consumer-friendly approach. It'd be better if they were offered online where possible (Wargames Illustrated's Giants in Miniature range is an excellent example of this, as it's largely still available online).

 

However, those event exclusives aren't there to make an event worthwhile; if that's what makes an event worthwhile to you (the consumer). They are a neat, interesting and different thing that are thrown into the mix to tie-in (or loosely tie-in) with an event where you're generally attending to do something else entirely. SALUTE is an excellent example of this, as they rotate the limited edition model out on an annual basis, with the vast majority of attendees visiting to see the panels, trade vendors or new games on display. 

 

Limited availability =/= commemorative models, I'll agree with you there. However I'll still stand on principle that LEs should absolutely be a thing without becoming a commodity. And it does speak volumes that it's largely the Warhammer community digging their heels in on this, whereas the wider hobby space are generally quite supportive - even if it's not something they can pick up themselves.

 

The Catachan Colonel is an a mite unfair comparison, as that was offered out to local games stores at the height of COVID to help them stay in business - if the stores chose to raffle them off, sell them on a sales platform or simply hand them out that's their discretion, and can't really be held against Games Workshop.

 

(As an aside, Ripper Jackson has been available a few times since - notably when stores have re-opened or moved locations, such as in Birmingham recently. You were able to put a MtO request in via the store as well.)

 

[Marshal Reinhard]

Yeah, like Sergeant Castus, the million online order one, or Bayard's revenge and the Primaris Lieutenant with storm shield, which were both warhammer day minis but acquirable online for a limited time. Plenty exclusive but didn't penalize me for not living near a store.

[Joe]

I wouldn't call it being penalised - as that implies you're being unfairly punished, when that's not the intent? Like, I'm not going to complain if I can't pick up an exclusive collectible from a Pokemon Center in Japan for example.

 

Broader availability would be excellent however, but we're rapidly spiralling off-topic and probably ought to shift it to a dedicated thread at this stage.

[Commissar Greif]

4 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

Or even in places like the US/Canada, you're still talking about a large number of folks that have to drive a minimum of a few hours to get to an official store. And you better hope they're actually open when you get there. I have one near by, but I've even lost count of the number of times I've driven there just to find out it's closed for whatever reason and they didn't post it on Google/Socials, which is why I just go to my FLGS 90% of the time now

 

This. I rarely go to my official GW store because it's an hour or so drive south of me in Franklin. Why would I drive that far when it's only 15 minutes to one FLGS and 30 to another with a big gaming area? I really only pop in if I'm already in Franklin for something else, or if there's an event like a store anniversary.

On top of that, my GW has some odd store hours. They're closed on Monday & Tuesday, and usually only open 11-7 every other day.

 

It really doesn't cost GW much at all to make these models available online, or to do some sort of MTO window with them. Arguably, the cost would be fruther offset by the fact that it would make them more available for more players.

Edited Thursday at 09:29 PM by Commissar Greif

[Dorn of War]

I cannot believe that GW think I’m going to just buy yet another Primaris captain. 
 

I mean, I am going to buy it, but still. The audacity of it! 

[roryokane]

5 hours ago, Dorn of War said:

I cannot believe that GW think I’m going to just buy yet another Primaris captain. 
 

I mean, I am going to buy it, but still. The audacity of it! 

You mean another captain with very ornate-looking Mk VIII plate? ;)

[Focslain]

20 hours ago, Commissar Greif said:

It really doesn't cost GW much at all to make these models available online, or to do some sort of MTO window with them. Arguably, the cost would be fruther offset by the fact that it would make them more available for more players.

Well we don't have a date for when this model drops, so still time for GW to make that decision. Even if you had to order from a local GW, it would be better to have a MTO period to supplement the limited stock. I'm not expecting more then five or six per store. 

[crimsondave]

Regardless of the difficulty in acquiring it, it’s another winner from GW.  I don’t even like Ultramarines and I want it.

[roryokane]

1 hour ago, crimsondave said:

Regardless of the difficulty in acquiring it, it’s another winner from GW.  I don’t even like Ultramarines and I want it.

It’s a banger of an update.