Sir Clausel Posted yesterday at 08:47 PM Share Posted yesterday at 08:47 PM If Sword Brethren dont get d2 power swords they will either have to be way too cheap to be an elite unit or just plain bad sadly. I see i forgot Grimaldus seems to lose his 5+++ but gains +1 t. If its his stats thats changing it doesnt matter that much but if its the unit buff then its a pretty big deal. I feel it will be a nerf vs most stuff. Im still optimistic and cant wait to see our detachments! Especially if we do get vows as army rule instead Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386135-new-templar-codex-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6121971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted yesterday at 09:07 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:07 PM We gotta wait for the Detachments and Vows to have the full picture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386135-new-templar-codex-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6121973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 6 hours ago, redmapa said: If those rumors are true then it feels like a good sidegrade for us as it gives everything that is currently keeping our lackluster winrate afloat while opening the design space for detachments and different buffs. Overall I like the changes so far but its a big IF to it being true, it wouldnt be the first time GW changed their design paradigm late in an edition but only for us? I would expect tha Wolves would also lose Oath and gain something and its also shows GW to be very in tune as to what works within a faction which isnt exactly our experience with GW balance. a lot of their buffs only work in their detachments. And only for SW units - not Astartes units. GW dont want us to play the normal SM detachments because we have an advantage because of more datasheets... and a disantvantage in our current state because of Special Oath (+1to wound). For them (and i think so as well) its better to give the big 4 chapters their own books. In my pov: Space Marine Codex (Ultramarines as dominant faction) vs Chaos Space Marines Codex (Black Legion as dominant faction Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Black Templars vs World Eaters, Emperors Children, Death Guard and Thousand Sons. both share a bunch of same units (Chaos Rhino, Forgefiend, Helbrute....) but they all have various rules. And the rumors about our Marshal shows the difference right now... and even the Space Wolves have that already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386135-new-templar-codex-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6122016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 5 hours ago, Sir Clausel said: If Sword Brethren dont get d2 power swords they will either have to be way too cheap to be an elite unit or just plain bad sadly. I see i forgot Grimaldus seems to lose his 5+++ but gains +1 t. If its his stats thats changing it doesnt matter that much but if its the unit buff then its a pretty big deal. I feel it will be a nerf vs most stuff. Im still optimistic and cant wait to see our detachments! Especially if we do get vows as army rule instead a few things said right here. World Eaters lost a lot of their table like more movement... but was built in the datasheet. lets say the swords get +1 dmg and their ws is 2+ and 3+ on the hammer they would be still awesome. If they completely loose their dmg but receive ws 2+ and +1S and +1ap i would take them in my lists (currently i do not!!!!!!!!!) And Sete is correct. We dont know how the vows will change. If Uphold will be the same but AaC will be sustained + reroll all hit rolls in close combat and Suffer not... let you reroll all wound rolls it can be really crazy. Sir Clausel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386135-new-templar-codex-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6122017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Yeah we only know a tiny bit of whats to come. Its just fun to think about. I really hope our vows dont just grants some kind of reroll. There is enough of that already in 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386135-new-templar-codex-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6122023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 4 hours ago, Medjugorje said: In my pov: Space Marine Codex (Ultramarines as dominant faction) vs Chaos Space Marines Codex (Black Legion as dominant faction Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Black Templars vs World Eaters, Emperors Children, Death Guard and Thousand Sons. both share a bunch of same units (Chaos Rhino, Forgefiend, Helbrute....) but they all have various rules. And the rumors about our Marshal shows the difference right now... and even the Space Wolves have that already. Unlike the BTs and the rest of the LSM supplements, the Cult Marines don't get to soup anything they want from CSM, just a very specific tailored list of effectively reprints. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386135-new-templar-codex-supplement/page/2/#findComment-6122036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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