Playing old editions and games - practical reality and prospects

[No Foes Remain]

6 hours ago, Captain Idaho said:

I have serious new hopes that I can get wangle something, because my gaming group was talking about BFG and then young newbie (he's 25 whilst we're 40s, curse his hairline) stated we should do a campaign of space, full scale epic (Legions Imperialis) followed by 28mm.

 

If I play this right with BFG Heresy rules (the downloads I got are community accepted as awesome), then maybe, just maybe... 

If you can find a copy online, I'm pretty sure the 4th Black Book Conquest had a section for sizeable campaigns like that. I'll check when I get home from work

 

Edit: Yes it does, other kin may be able to advise better than I in regards to the actual content of it but this is from the contents list of the book.

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:35 PM by No Foes Remain

[Pacific81]

On 7/15/2025 at 8:04 AM, LameBeard said:

 

 

Now @Pacific81 can come remind us of the thriving scene of dead epic editions - if I remember rightly people run actual events - you don’t even need the local friend group sometime.

 

Very much so mate! :D In fact just this coming Saturday, a fairly big Epic Armageddon event is going on in Bristol, UK. A number of the UK tournament scene guys (Epic GT) are running, there are even some guys coming over from Sweden and bringing their armies to play.

 

@Captain Idaho If you have no group already in existence it might be worth trying to find a local HH group (it changes but they are usually FB or Discord groups) and go from there. If you can't find a group, does the store or club you play at have an FB page or similar where you can ask?

I absolutely get what you are saying about it being a waste of energy to collect an army for something and then have no opponents. The way around that I have found is to get a 'critical mass' (this can be as few as 3 or 4 people) who are of a like mind and can play with you. Really, that is all a play group needs I have found.

It might be people you know from other games who like the idea and want to give it a go? 

Let us know how you get on in any case.

[Valkyrion]

Me and mine play a sort of bastardised version of 30k - its basically 2nd ed HH but without certain clutter we didn't really like.

For example we've basically omitted the Psychic powers, challenges and aircraft because it didn't sufficiently impact any of us.

When charging we play it so that if one model makes it then the entire unit does, and everyone fights (no one quits) - no pile in moves or whatever.

 

It's recognisable as being 30k, but there are enough differences that would make it difficult to go to a FLGS and play a pick up game. 

But we had to choose - play it our way where we can fudge it to our own tastes, or play it 'properly' with all the jank and minutiae that comes with it.

We chose fudge.

[N1SB]

On 7/15/2025 at 6:27 PM, Captain Idaho said:

I have serious new hopes that I can get wangle something, because my gaming group was talking about BFG and then young newbie (he's 25 whilst we're 40s, curse his hairline) stated we should do a campaign of space, full scale epic (Legions Imperialis) followed by 28mm.

 

If I play this right with BFG Heresy rules (the downloads I got are community accepted as awesome), then maybe, just maybe... 

 

I think you nailed it, if you're going to lead a thing with the most limited resource of all...time...then it's best to dedicate to this.

 

And then you can segue into other 30k games, as you say.

 

I just came back from our Warhammer Store.  We kinda fleshed out our meta with just 1 joint discussion among like 6 players, like we're pretty representative.  We're all aiming for mere, simple, quick 1000 pt games, with a named character (like a Corswain or a Sigismund, not a Primarch).  I literally initiated the conversation with, "So what Legion are you thinking of playing?"  By prompting them to think about what they'll play, it makes them think that they WILL play.  Hehe, you see how I work?

 

+++++

 

I had a realisation.  So 30k 1st ed is actually an older edition of 40k of the time.  When I got into 30k, it was because 7th ed 40k back then and it had become about Eldar Wraithknights and their D-Cannons or those HUGE Formations that just force you to buy in bulk.  So we treated from 40k into, well, an old edition of 40k: 30k/AoD/HH 1st ed.

 

30k 2nd ed was like a polished version of 30k 1st ed.  30k 3rd ed is, like, I don't even know what it is anymore.  I'll still play it.

[Captain Idaho]

I suspect HH 3.0 is actually 30K 1.0.

 

I reckon with the move to Scouring, since the Heresy can't go on forever without rewriting it and just repeating it, we're seeing GW establish a "historical 40K" where everything prior Primaris and 8th edition 40K can exist.

 

I think we'll see some campaign book first for HH 3.0 that has Scouring Marine units.

 

Then if all is received well we'll see Scouring Orks.

 

If we're lucky, we might even see a push for Crusade Xenos and Dark Age of Technology factions. 

 

That explains a lot of what was done with 3.0.