Drukhari and Webstore Weirdness?

[ThePenitentOne]

On the Canadian Webstore, Wracks are now listed as "Sold Out" rather than temporarily out of stock, though this is not the case on the UK site.

 

The Drukhari combat patrol is listed as "Sold Out" on the UK site, but not the Candian site.

 

The Tantalus is listed as "Sold Out" on both.

 

I've long suspected that if any Drukhari core units (Kabalites, Wyches and Wracks) were getting updated this edition, it would be Wracks. And because Drukhari also need Grotesques, I thought they might be released as a KT split box- similar to how Ogryns can be included in a Ratling Kill team, I'm wondering if the split box may take the form of a KT box including both Wracks and Grotesques... five or six Wracks with one or two Grotesques?

 

Early to speculate, of course. But this store weirdness might be a sign of things to come. 

[Alby the Slayer]

I hope so!

 

The fact they didn't even speak about lady malys or the future codex in the summer preview make me think that we will not see anything for us this year.

 

We desperately need some miniatures refresh.

[The Yncarne]

Occam's Razor suggests it’s just poor stocking. 
 

edit: maybe these will become made to order

Edited Monday at 05:21 PM by The Yncarne

[Jukkiz]

25 minutes ago, The Yncarne said:

Occam's Razor suggests it’s just poor stocking. 
 

edit: maybe these will become made to order

Most of GW nowdays, sadly

[CL_Mission]

4 hours ago, ThePenitentOne said:

I've long suspected that if any Drukhari core units (Kabalites, Wyches and Wracks) were getting updated this edition, it would be Wracks. And because Drukhari also need Grotesques, I thought they might be released as a KT split box- similar to how Ogryns can be included in a Ratling Kill team, I'm wondering if the split box may take the form of a KT box including both Wracks and Grotesques... five or six Wracks with one or two Grotesques?

I've seen people bring up Wracks before when talking about core units getting refreshed but I've never really understood why, especially over something like Wyches. They're younger than Wyches and Kabalite Warriors and don't feel particularly old, is 11 years old in miniature terms? I know age isn't the only factor and more recent kits have been re-done but wracks don't look particularly bad, I can't think of anything about them that might need re-doing. Is there something I'm missing? 

[Ming the Merciless]

Of the 3 battleline units I think Wyches are the most likely to be updated, they're still on slotta bases. All 25mm base Drukhari could do with upsizing to 28.5mm but the sculpts are all still excellent.

[ThePenitentOne]

Wracks coming in boxes of five is one of the things that makes me suspect they may be up for renewal; also, if Grotesques are getting redone, doing Wracks at the same time would be good for consistency.

 

I hadn't thought about the slotta-wyches issue. One of the things that is great about the Kabalite and Wyches kits is their ability to swap parts between them. If either get redone, that's gone.

[Laurence]

Wracks also need to be given ears.  Their masks clearly have slots to fit around them, but the sides and back of their head are utterly smooth.

[Bouargh]

11 hours ago, Ming the Merciless said:

Of the 3 battleline units I think Wyches are the most likely to be updated, they're still on slotta bases. All 25mm base Drukhari could do with upsizing to 28.5mm but the sculpts are all still excellent.

 

I agree. BAsed on the slotta argument, Scourges might also benefit from moving away of slotta bases... Even if their sculpts are also still very decent.

 

Other candidates for derious revamp are all the resin models that have been affected by the range rotation even if, in the end, there are not that numerous: Bestmaster, Grotesques and Court (and that's it?).

In terms of aspect, Hellions start to pay their age. But I am biased as I was part of these people thinking that these models were a miss since the beginning...

 

In terms of webstore availability, I recently sourced a Venom. It has been difficult to find one as it has been for ages unavailable on GW webstore and in most resellers. I found it accidentaly while stepping in a GW physical store where they had a lot of these on shelves. It brought me to thinking about how curious it is that all stores stocks are not interconnected: I used to buy in some store organized as networks and working together and mutualize stock so that warehouse holes are filled by on shelves availabilities. But may be is it to costly to organize with internal movements in a huge organization whereas it is doable in a small network of 5 to 10 shops with no warehouse beside the small closet behind the staff locker room?

Edited yesterday at 06:12 AM by Bouargh

[Xenith]

"Sold out online" is usually an indicator of a repackage or replacement unit - for HH over the last 3 years, the replacement has been announced 3 months or so after the model goes OOS online. 

[sitnam]

A year ago I would of hedged my bets that Drukhari were gonna 11th antagonist faction. However, given they are seemingly the last army to get a codex in 10th, I think we'll see a decent size refresh at the end of this edition. Last editions of 40k and AoS had big refreshes right at the end with Astra Militarum and Flesh Easter Courts.

 

Although a full refresh would be great, I think the existing Drukhari plastics hold up so well I think this refresh will mostly go to replacing resin units

[Redcomet]

21 hours ago, Alby the Slayer said:

I hope so!

 

The fact they didn't even speak about lady malys or the future codex in the summer preview make me think that we will not see anything for us this year.

 

We desperately need some miniatures refresh.

Full release have been revealed mere days after the preview, that weren’t in the preview, before. 

[Evil Eye]

30 minutes ago, sitnam said:

Although a full refresh would be great, I think the existing Drukhari plastics hold up so well I think this refresh will mostly go to replacing resin units

I agree, I wouldn't want the existing Warriors and Wyches replaced any time soon, they're fantastic kits- immensely customizable but also really good looking. That 5th edition DE range refresh was one of the best GW has ever done, honestly.

[Dark Legionnare]

18 hours ago, Ming the Merciless said:

Of the 3 battleline units I think Wyches are the most likely to be updated, they're still on slotta bases. All 25mm base Drukhari could do with upsizing to 28.5mm but the sculpts are all still excellent.

Amen. All the 5th ed refresh stuff still holds up fantastically well.  Been very weird to me hearing people demand refreshes the past couple years I've had the army.

About the only thing I'd want them to do is put the finecast (previously metal often) folks into plastic kits finally. Would make the grotesques actually attainable for most folks doing that, too.

[TheMawr]

On 7/21/2025 at 8:00 PM, CL_Mission said:

I've seen people bring up Wracks before when talking about core units getting refreshed but I've never really understood why, especially over something like Wyches. They're younger than Wyches and Kabalite Warriors and don't feel particularly old, is 11 years old in miniature terms? I know age isn't the only factor and more recent kits have been re-done but wracks don't look particularly bad, I can't think of anything about them that might need re-doing. Is there something I'm missing? 

 

I think one thing is that people want wracks to be something they are/where not supposed to be, wich is partly GWs "fault" as well. Wracks are basically eldar servitors.. and the models represents that perfectly. The "troops/warriors" are, even for covens, hired or indepted kabalites and wyches, but when looking at coven specific.. its more the grotesques territory, although the identity may have changed over time ( and i might even have some faulty head canon i cant double check my codexes right now) i thought the idea was always that a proper full covens force should be lots of monstrocities, with wracks just being the aides of a haemonculus ... somewhere between a farseer+warlock conclave and Techpriest/marine+servitors.

 

However when GW decided to threat Drukhari as 3 different armies in game terms ( not a fan of that ) wracks Where the only kit proper for becoming the troops.

 

Wether its head canon or not, i hope they turn it around.. keep/turn current wracks as Drukhari "servitors" and threat Grotesques as a bigger meaner "battleline" 

 

Wyches are anatomically miles behind similar kits, and they are low on options in the kit ( there is a much smaller variety in all the parts that some people seem to attest to them ) and the most modulable elements are equally modular in many/most modern kits; heads and single weapon arms just with double the options per kit... when ignoring ork boyz.

 

Best of both worlds that  wont happen add covenite  parts or an upgrade sprue for new wyches and kabalites warriors.

 

In the end its all personal taste i guess

[ThePenitentOne]

One of the things I'm looking forward to is that when the Court models get redone, they will likely be excellent... But also bigger. I think I might be able to get away with keeping my finecast versions in circulation as "Apprentices" to the actual court. In my Crusade, my headcannon is that the Lhamaean is a powerful character in her own right, and she works with the Archon as an equal partner, exerting her control over the Splinter Realm's Poison Distillery territories.

 

Sslyth are actually pretty big, and I doubt they'll scale creep as much as other models, but GW has gotten really good at sculpting snakey things since those models debuted; their glow-up is likely to be spectacular.

 

I can't wait for news of what the Drukhari are getting. It's worth noting that the Tantalus is sold out in both Canada and the UK. Forgeworld models don't always get replaced when they disappear, but if Vect ever returned, it would be cool to see that his Dias of Destruction had grown into a plastic Tantalus. Even without Vect, that would be dope. 

[ursvamp]

maybe they’re getting reboxed, in time for the codex, with those new slightly larger bases that they tend to put all light infantry on in recent editions?

or perhaps they’ll rebox them as 10s (just double the sprues per box). But I can’t see that happening, since having you pay more money per 5, when they can get away with it, is more GW’s MO. Hard to see them giving a discount for no reason.

(though I do agree that they have really become way less of the elite unit they where when introduced, and seem to be solidly in the 10-model Battleline corner nowadays. Which makes their price seem thourougly inapproriate)

Besides, I can’t see them remaking Wracks a *second* time since the 2010 relaunch. Not when Warriors an Wyches hasn’t been redone Once. And especially since the current models are excellent ^^

 

oh, and Wracks aren’t servitors.

They’re apprentices and assistants. The forst step in becoming a haemonculus. Not mindless automatons or constructs (like servitors and Grotesques)

[Commissar Greif]

19 hours ago, sitnam said:

A year ago I would of hedged my bets that Drukhari were gonna 11th antagonist faction. However, given they are seemingly the last army to get a codex in 10th, I think we'll see a decent size refresh at the end of this edition. Last editions of 40k and AoS had big refreshes right at the end with Astra Militarum and Flesh Easter Courts.

 

Although a full refresh would be great, I think the existing Drukhari plastics hold up so well I think this refresh will mostly go to replacing resin units

I think they're getting the Craftworld treatment. Half their refresh at the end of 10th, the other half sometime in the middle of 11th.

[Ming the Merciless]

If there is a refresh this addition I'll be suprised if it's anything more than new plastics for the remaining finecast in the range (Court, Beastmaster, Grotesques, Urien). 

 

Expecting (updated( HQs on larger bases sooner than later.

[Halandaar]

Yeah Wracks are the newest of the the three "core" unit kits which makes me doubtful they'd update those over any of the others if it's a more restrained update. 

 

IMO Drukhari are such a good candidate for the 11th Edition antagonist faction (several resin models that need updating to plastic, core units old enough to justify a do-over, obvious centrepiece model candidate in Vect, loads of scope for new kits in the lore like Trueborn and Bloodbrides), but the fact they're being left to last in 10th probably rules it out. It would be a whole new level of obnoxious for GW to put out a Codex and then replace not just the edition, but the actual Codex itself, within about 6 months.

 

 

[TheMawr]

5 hours ago, ursvamp said:

oh, and Wracks aren’t servitors.

They’re apprentices and assistants. 

 

Wich is the general role part i meant with the comparison, not the fluff part ( because obviously warlock conclaves i mentioned when making the comparison are als not mindless automatons )

They are assistants, not the covens main battle force .. and the current kit is perfectly fitting for that, its one of the best character assistant kits even. But most motivations i see for people wanting/expecting updated wracks comes from not seeing them as assistants but as the covens "chaff"

But this isnt helped by wracks being battleline  instead of grotesques, and similar presentation behavior in the same vein by GW.

 

The sold out online could mean just throwing 2 sets in a box to make a set of 10 and GW doubling down on their odd troop state, if it isnt just a base size thing. Like you i really dont expect them to be redone, though i guess weirder things happened.

 

[TheMawr]

1 hour ago, Halandaar said:

Yeah Wracks are the newest of the the three "core" unit kits which makes me doubtful they'd update those over any of the others if it's a more restrained update. 

 

IMO Drukhari are such a good candidate for the 11th Edition antagonist faction (several resin models that need updating to plastic, core units old enough to justify a do-over, obvious centrepiece model candidate in Vect, loads of scope for new kits in the lore like Trueborn and Bloodbrides), but the fact they're being left to last in 10th probably rules it out. It would be a whole new level of obnoxious for GW to put out a Codex and then replace not just the edition, but the actual Codex itself, within about 6 months.

 

 

 

Last updated codex of the edition have had bigger updates than the starterset villains had though.

Sisters of battle and Astra Militarum got more than  Necron and Tyranids got. Its technically a better position ( when talking kit release quantity ), But there is no guarantee at all they do this a third time. ( or That its even dark eldars spot to take, while less likely, chaos daemons or deathwatch could have been red herrings.. CSM 2.0 also happened before. )