Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Sunday at 07:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:42 PM Dante is now in charge of half the imperium(give or take a bit). it seems it would make sense for him to step aside as chapter master in order to focus on the big picture, but keeps him around as an advisor still. it makes sense from a lore perspective, and likely gives us a dope new model. To be clear, I am NOT calling for the death of Dante. the new RG model and the bit about shrike stepping down from his position got me thinking about this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted Monday at 03:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:38 AM IMHO GW is already contemplating this, going by how I interpret them showing Dante as world weary and almost had enough. Don’t know if they are planning to kill him of or promote him upstairs as you suggest, but I think he is safe until his mould pays for itself . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted Monday at 03:44 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:44 AM No. /Thread. Rhavien, DemonGSides and ThaneOfTas 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted Monday at 09:10 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:10 AM Guilliman basically ruling the Imperium does not stop him taking to the battlefield although Calgar is still around for more chapter-specific stomping duties. I was kinda hoping that the BA refresh would give the Sanguinor a glow-up with a bigger centre-piece model. Say he had been empowered by the Great Rift or something to give us a Primarch-level character since we know Sanguinius will not be coming back. However they went for a conservative update leaving us with 2 beatstick characters. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted Monday at 11:22 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:22 AM I think the ship sailed. I’d have been open to Dante becoming more like guilliman, I.e. focus on his role for imperium nihilus over his role for blood angels. Then give us Karlean as a new chapter master Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted Monday at 12:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:22 PM I could certainly see room for a 'regent/deputy' backfilling more of Dante's base role as he is more of a Guilliman than a Calgar for the north imperium at this point, but I don't see him passing off the title and ultimate responsibility. Hopefully we get a new named Blood Angels Terminator captain (I honestly don't mind if it's Karlean or someone else) along with the next codex/assault terminators release. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Monday at 01:57 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 01:57 PM 10 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said: IMHO GW is already contemplating this, going by how I interpret them showing Dante as world weary and almost had enough. Don’t know if they are planning to kill him of or promote him upstairs as you suggest, but I think he is safe until his mould pays for itself . You seem to be several years behind on lore. He’s already been promoted. a new chapter master wouldn’t remove Dante’s model, just like guilliman and calgar both exist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted Monday at 03:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:35 PM Well Gulliman isn't a chapter master, so that comparison doesn't really work. The earlier comparison to the raven guard would be closer but it would be very out of character for Dante to give up the mantle of the Blood Angels. His rubicon transformation has revitalized him and with the 2nd primarch coming back also giving him more hope, he's not anywhere near the despair levels he was during the devastation so I doubt him being removed from CM is even remotely considered right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Monday at 04:29 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 04:29 PM (edited) 54 minutes ago, DemonGSides said: Well Gulliman isn't a chapter master, so that comparison doesn't really work. The earlier comparison to the raven guard would be closer but it would be very out of character for Dante to give up the mantle of the Blood Angels. His rubicon transformation has revitalized him and with the 2nd primarch coming back also giving him more hope, he's not anywhere near the despair levels he was during the devastation so I doubt him being removed from CM is even remotely considered right now. What do you mean the comparison doesn’t work? dante’s new responsibilities have him on (nearly) the same level as guilliman. even for an astartes that’s too much attention being taken away from running the chapter to do so effectively. no one said he’d give up the mantle of blood angels, just like guilliman hasn’t given up the mantle of the ultramarines. dante at this point is a primarch in everything but name and physicality. what does despair or hope have to do with anything? Edited Monday at 04:31 PM by Inquisitor_Lensoven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted Tuesday at 02:49 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:49 AM 12 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: You seem to be several years behind on lore. He’s already been promoted. a new chapter master wouldn’t remove Dante’s model, just like guilliman and calgar both exist. I’m well aware of his current status. I was referring to them using his new role to move him off screen as BA CM using his new status as an excuse as an alternative to killing him off. The reference to his model was a joke hence the emoji at the end. The real question is what is do GW have in mind in the long run. For all we know they will replace Dante with the Lion as head honcho north of the rift, retaining Dante as the BA Chapter Master. Karhedron and DemonGSides 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted Tuesday at 07:47 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:47 AM It has been nearly an entire edition since the Lion returned. In that time we have had just one novel about him no interaction with his last surviving loyal brother. Wasted opportunity there I feel. Inquisitor_Lensoven, Mordred, DemonGSides and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Tuesday at 01:11 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 01:11 PM 10 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said: I’m well aware of his current status. I was referring to them using his new role to move him off screen as BA CM using his new status as an excuse as an alternative to killing him off. The reference to his model was a joke hence the emoji at the end. The real question is what is do GW have in mind in the long run. For all we know they will replace Dante with the Lion as head honcho north of the rift, retaining Dante as the BA Chapter Master. The lion could take over, but that doesn’t seem likely. Seems more like the lion will fill the role of crusading knight. Leaving Dante to manage all the ‘boring’ stuff as well the defense of nihilus, while the lion takes responsibility for offensive measures. Felix Antipodes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM The fact that GW hasn’t touched on Nihilis in any detail since 8th edition introduced it, or the Lion since his one book*, suggests to me that Dante might be safe for a while yet. Unless the next edition is a major change of pace (and setting) GW will continue to concentrate on Guilliman and his various crusades. *Hell, I’m still waiting on a follow up on the Tyranid invasion from Pacificus DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted Tuesday at 03:14 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 03:14 PM 1 hour ago, Felix Antipodes said: The fact that GW hasn’t touched on Nihilis in any detail since 8th edition introduced it, or the Lion since his one book*, suggests to me that Dante might be safe for a while yet. Unless the next edition is a major change of pace (and setting) GW will continue to concentrate on Guilliman and his various crusades. *Hell, I’m still waiting on a follow up on the Tyranid invasion from Pacificus Personally I’m not a fan of how they just kept updating the lore every year in major ways. I liked the sandbox from before 8th more than the living story it is now, but I understand that jumping forward 1000 years and dumping 1000 new kits over 3-5 years probably isnt as profitable as a trickle feed like they have been giving us is. Or at least it won’t appear to be as it would likely be a profit spike in that period that would then drop off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6124991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago I also preferred the sandbox approach. If they are determined to persist with the moving timeline, they could at least finish an event to leave it as an ongoing stalemate they can come back to later. This current scenario where something happens but is never referred to again is bull:cuss: and an insult to their customers (IMHO). Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6125154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 12 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said: I also preferred the sandbox approach. If they are determined to persist with the moving timeline, they could at least finish an event to leave it as an ongoing stalemate they can come back to later. This current scenario where something happens but is never referred to again is bull:cuss: and an insult to their customers (IMHO). Most of what they’re doing these days is and an insult to us veterans. But apparently not insulting enough, either that or the new recruits eat it up, because they’re making money hand over fist off of us. Edited 9 hours ago by Grotsmasha =] Swear Dodge changed to Emoji [= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386354-is-it-time-for-a-new-chapter-master/#findComment-6125312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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