Potential Night Lords vs. Sisters of Battle Kill Team set

[Joe]

 

Another image doing the round this morning; seems to suggest a Night Lords (Raptors) vs. Sisters of Battle (sword and board?) box is on the way, assuming this is legit.

[Maschinenpriester]

This would be a dream come true. Waiting for a proper power armoured sisters kill team since ages. I really hope this is legit. :D

Having raptors in it would make this a no brainer for me since CSM are my second army anyways. :D

[Joe]

At a glance, would seem like an upgrade sprue for Celestians, giving them power swords and new shields? Fairly simple.

[Sardreth]

Looks like the current Raptors Set and a new or upgraded Celestia Set. Strange choice IMO. But cool for Night Lords Players if they get another upgrade sprue.

[Mogger351]

Just please expand off the necron theme, or be generic rather than yet another set of stuff that assumes you own volkus terrain.

 

Unless this is the season 2 major box?

[Borbarad]

Didn’t Night Lords and Sisters just get a Kill Team box each? Somebody like Word Bearers would be more fitting versus Sisters. 

[Mogger351]

11 minutes ago, Borbarad said:

Didn’t Night Lords and Sisters just get a Kill Team box each? Somebody like Word Bearers would be more fitting versus Sisters. 

The last sisters one was a bit weird, it was also an agents unit and it's debatable where they belong in some ways.

 

Agree it seems a bit soon for another.

[Corswain]

I'm sure these will be cool but I wish they would go back to the old metal Raptor aesthetic. I would buy q lot of those.

[Lord Marshal]

Interesting if it is an Upgrade Sprue vs Upgrade Sprue, given they seemed to be moving away from New Kit vs Upgrade, let alone making them both such.

 

I wonder if it's another experiment like Ashes of Faith where they try and do something different? 

 

[Evil Eye]

New Raptors would be nice; I like the current kit quite a lot as it has some very nice parts in it, but proper updates to the classic 3E Raptors would be amazing, especially if they hew close to the art; the old sculpts never quite captured this look.

[firestorm40k]

3 hours ago, Sardreth said:

Looks like the current Raptors Set and a new or upgraded Celestia Set. Strange choice IMO. But cool for Night Lords Players if they get another upgrade sprue.

I would wager it's the other way round - an upgrade sprue to make the regular Battle Sisters squad into a Celestian Kill Team, and a new Raptors kit. At least, I'd hope so 

[Indy Techwisp]

Or it's a brand new Sisters of Battle kit and an update for the Raptors/Warptalons kit that just happens to be Night Lords colours.

[TheMawr]

24 minutes ago, Evil Eye said:

New Raptors would be nice; I like the current kit quite a lot as it has some very nice parts in it, but proper updates to the classic 3E Raptors would be amazing, especially if they hew close to the art; the old sculpts never quite captured this look.

 

If this leak is real then this is definitely not the case, because while art can have some artistic license the raptor has all the elements of the current kit including the weird little side things that previously where exclusive to warp talons ( unless they are supposed to be warp talons illustrations, wich is even stranger as while its not represented well by the kit, they are not supposed to be that "clean" ).. so it would mean the new kit is 1 on 1 based on the current kit.

 

 

[ThePenitentOne]

Any rumour of new Sisters is good. 

 

I have a bunch of generic CSM, though not the actual Legionaire KT. My real CSM interest is Emperor's Children; I don't have the capacity to collect another dedicated CSM force. I'm away from dex, so I forget whether EC can have Raptors/ Talons, but plugging them into EC or leaving them generic would be the only way I could really use them.

 

I think an EC KT would be nice since EC need units. Doesn't look like GW agrees.

 

 

[Maschinenpriester]

The Celestian with the shield looks a bit different as the one from the celestian sarcrestant shields. It looks a lot like the one from the triump model. Maybe we get our celestian elite unit back? So it could be an upgrade sprue for regular sisters perhaps? One of them beeing a shield bearer. But this is probably more wishful thinking from my side.

[TheMawr]

Despite the different blacks of the art seeming to me it could indicate a fake, The red text under the warband names on the right might be a sign of it actually being real, they dont have it in the Volkus season, but we are going into a new season (of wich we havent seen that page yet ) and when you fake something you are not going to invent new elements. I dont know.. could go either way. The rest of my words are going off the premise that it would be real, despite not being convinced one way or another yet.

 

It would fit a fear I had with valrak rumors ( though he keeps changing between Khorne, Worldeaters and Berzerkers.. and Im going to assume only one of those are what the rumor source said.) that we are going back to one side being upgrade sprue kill teams. 

 

I think when looking at the art and applying some deduction, sisters of battle side is just going to be the Battlesisters box with an upgrade sprue. While I think they removed it this edition, Celestants had always ( even in metal ) been made from the regular Battle sisters before the Sacresants where released, and I think its a return of that unit, not an update to/replacement of the sacresant unit.

 

As said above I think the Raptors might be Warp talons, the little weird wing is there on the jump pack. and I think the wings in the logo represent that element and not the wings of the Night lords logo.

By art Im going to assume its a fairly faithful update of the current kit, no added elements, KT flavor or otherwise. More Blades of Khaine than Kommandos. But its early to doom over that.

 

Its a bit meh if real, not because I dont like other people getting their wants, but because there are potentially certain ramifications coming with it.

 

 

edit :

For the record.. I also wasnt a fan of Blades of Khaine kill team for similar reasons.

 

Edited yesterday at 01:27 PM by TheMawr

[TheMawr]

btw Insidiadoras translates to Treacherous/Deceptive in dutch... and Insidious in english ( wich I think is a similar word.) not really words I'd associate with sisters of battle ( celestants least of all ) 

 

or does it translate to something more noble ike Stealthy for spanish people themselves ? 

 

edit : Nevermind, it apparently auto-corrected the source language to latin.. so its less literal and more fancy name probably

Edited yesterday at 01:54 PM by TheMawr

[sitnam]

54 minutes ago, Maschinenpriester said:

The Celestian with the shield looks a bit different as the one from the celestian sarcrestant shields. It looks a lot like the one from the triump model. Maybe we get our celestian elite unit back? So it could be an upgrade sprue for regular sisters perhaps? One of them beeing a shield bearer. But this is probably more wishful thinking from my side.

 

I don't think it is wishful thinking, I think it's the best possibility. Kill Teams are built around different specialists, having a sword and board Celestians in the squad makes a ton of sense.

 

I'm hedging my bets that this might not be an upgrade sprues team. Unless GW does a 180, I think the upgrade sprue era is gone. We have had an entire season with no upgrade sprues.

[redmapa]

Closest word in spanish would be "Incendiadoras" which means Inciendaries, so a stylized version of that fits SoB fairly well.

 

I hope its a new raptor kit, regardless of how it looks I think an update of the current kit would be great and another unit for the Night Lords sounds amazing.

[TheMawr]

30 minutes ago, redmapa said:

Closest word in spanish would be "Incendiadoras" which means Inciendaries, so a stylized version of that fits SoB fairly well.

 

I hope its a new raptor kit, regardless of how it looks I think an update of the current kit would be great and another unit for the Night Lords sounds amazing.

 

Quite honestly that makes me a bit more skeptical, not less.

 

Because while that "could" be a simplification name wich GW tends to do sometimes ( Beserks.. ), it would be one that only really works for a spanish speaking person, or even more someone who doesnt speak spanish but pretends to, but not as a translation of an english weird simplification name for the team. ( do they even translate Intercessors, Beserks etc. into spanish ? or leave them just as english ?.)

 

( skeptical levels are low though, when it comes to names the most fake names ended up being real with GW, but you triggered my "I have to analyse the most useless things" part of my brain now XD )

 

Edited yesterday at 02:34 PM by TheMawr

[Bouargh]

34 minutes ago, redmapa said:

Closest word in spanish would be "Incendiadoras" which means Inciendaries, so a stylized version of that fits SoB fairly well.

 

I would rather go on a latinization track: with "insidiator" being more aligned with deceiver/lurker. Yet the concept of something ambushed in the shadows fits better to a raptor.

"Insidia" in Spanish is also an existing word translated into machination or cheating. Again a concept hard to link with Celestes. Unless these ladies in black can act as Scouts? 

 

One question of mine seeing this pic would be: more terrain on sight?

Edited yesterday at 02:37 PM by Bouargh

[CL_Mission]

It could always be a side product outside of the main Kill Team releases. Couple of existing kits thrown into a box together, no terrain with a booklet of Kill Team rules for the sisters and raptors and a few scenarios, they might not even have upgrade sprues and  the artwork is all fluff.

[Indy Techwisp]

4 minutes ago, CL_Mission said:

It could always be a side product outside of the main Kill Team releases. Couple of existing kits thrown into a box together, no terrain with a booklet of Kill Team rules for the sisters and raptors and a few scenarios, they might not even have upgrade sprues and  the artwork is all fluff.

Issue is that the depicted SoB doesn't match any current SoB model.

[WARMASTER_]

Not really sure where the legitimacy concerns are coming from unless someone’s got enough money to commission 4 new pieces of digital art to GW standard [probably cost around £1500 as someone who’s commissioned GW artists before] which would seem not only of a waste of money but time too then the only logical explanation is this is a real leak 

 

We also know TK doesn’t do two upgrade kits it’s either new kit + new kit or new kit + upgrade sprure 

 

my moneys on new raptor kit + upgrade sprue or two new kits 

[CL_Mission]

2 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

Issue is that the depicted SoB doesn't match any current SoB model.

That's what I mean when I say the artwork is all fluff, it's not necessarily representative of exactly what's in the box besides sisters vs raptos/nightlords. The scenarios could be set in the Nachmund Gauntlet. Maybe it's unused art from the Nacmund Gauntlet crusade book and since this is a cheap box GW are just throwing it in there.