Cybertheurgy question of the Lacrymaerta Omega Protocol kind

[MagicHat]

Bit unsure where to put this, as it does have 1 rules question and then a rant about how unlikely you are to pull this off.

So you can only invoke a rite at 3 separate times:

When the unit is selected to move.

When the unit is selected to make a shooting attack.

When the unit is selected to make a charge move. First question here: You don't have to actually declare a charge or even be in range to declare one to be selected to make a charge move, correct?

 

The omega Protocols requires you to:

Target a Lacrymaerta (And it will be a Tech-thrall, otherwise it makes no sense)

The Thralls needs a Cybertheurgic status on it already, so that means another Cybertheurgist with Flesh-knit protocols since that is the only other rite that works on thralls. This only works on a unit that is not in combat already. If you fail to get the M6 I3 with quicken into combat they will lose the status at the start of the next turn and suffer feedback with 6+ save.

Get the Thralls Locked in Combat, then you can cast Omega with 12" range and let the feedback kill as many of your 6+ save thralls as possible.

Your opponent then takes 2 S6 AP5 D1 hits for every kill and so does your surviving thralls

 

This just doesn't make any sense. Am I missing anything or is this a ridiculous amount of hoops to go through?

[ImNegan]

I had this realisation yesterday as well. It's really unlikely to ever actually come off. Especially against an opponent who has experienced it before. 

You'll need to move at least 2, units correctly. Pass 2 cyberthurgy checks, and pass a charge roll with the thralls. 

 

AND Thralls aren't cheap now. You'll need a unit of around 15-20 to make the explosion worth while. So what's worth sacrificing a 200point unit to inflict max 40 S6 AP- hits on?

[MagicHat]

And omega is difficulty 4 so if it fails, your unit dies from Flesh-knit protocols feedback anyway.

Edited August 7 by MagicHat

[Trokair]

I honestly haven’t got my head around Cybertheurgy yet, and I suspect I won’t until I have given it a few goes on the table.

 

A lot of the powers and this one specifically, feel like they would be great if the right circumstance naturally occur in a game, so say a unit of Thralls being charged, and then you can use the power to do something thematic/interesting.

 

However the difficulty of pulling them of, and the fact you have to spend points to buy individual powers work against that.

 

 

 

I also get the impression that designers had this vision where we are constantly putting powers on all or most of our units, and made the Tech-Priest a troop choice so that we had plenty of sources, but it just does not feel workable from what I think I understand.

[MagicHat]

You can't even use it on a unit of thralls that were charged, which would have made it actually useful.

In order to use omega, they need to already have a rite cast on them, and the only other rite that works on thralls can't be cast on a unit locked in combat. It is madness how difficult it is to use Omega.

 

[Trokair]

Ah yes, D’oh. For some reason I was thinking they could have been cybertheurgy statused the previous turn, gotten charged and then this turn you blow them up but none of the status last past 1 turn cycle.

 

Another nail in the coffin for non Cybernetica cybertheurgy uses then I guess.

[MagicHat]

Fury of the ages looks decent for myrmidons, going up to BS/WS5.

Thallax one likewise, although that one might cause casualties.