Uprising Posted Wednesday at 01:51 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:51 PM Quick question, as I am eyeing the Saturnine box set due to how cheap it is going for online. How common was the Saturnine terminator and Saturnine dreadnought during the early great crusade. I always want to do a small warhound force and wondering if the box is era appropriate. Thank you and take care. N1SB and Doghouse 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386435-saturnine-during-great-crusade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted Wednesday at 02:17 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:17 PM From what I've read, Saturnine was more common at the beginning of the Crusade than at the end, similar to volkite. Both technologies proved too difficult to maintain, so they became rarer with time. W.A.Rorie, Uprising, Doghouse and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386435-saturnine-during-great-crusade/#findComment-6126569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM I think it depends on what strand of lore you want to follow. In the past, the semi-official ‘Saturnine’ lore was that it was largely a pre-Crusade thing that fell out of use as Cataphractii / Tartaros was developed. Obviously the newer lore is that Vulkan took this ancient design and reworked it to allow it to be better used, then circulated it to the Legions just before Istvaan. The 2.0 rule book also had a timeline of armour development that mentioned Saturnine around as being around during the Crusade, I think. Personally, I think a Warhounds army using them works. You could even say that, as the suits require the wearer to be psychically attuned, the pre-Butcher’s Nail Warhounds would be more likely to use them than World Eaters. Doghouse, Uprising, N1SB and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386435-saturnine-during-great-crusade/#findComment-6126611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted Wednesday at 07:47 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:47 PM I think you'd be fine, Angron was discovered in the year 899.M30 so this gives you about a hundred years of the Great Crusade to play around as Warhounds from a fictional historical wargaming perspective. The armour itself was Late Unification Wars/Early Great Crusade, the latter having lasted from 798.M30 to about 004.M31. The Unification Wars ended in 712.M30 putting it's hypothetical use at around 660.M30 to maybe 850.M30 taking into account the roughly 80 years between the end of the Unification Wars and the start of the Great Crusade at a guess? It's entirely possible that the first time this armour was seen in true World Eater colours was probably at Isstvan IIII in 005.M31 and all previous versions were in Warhounds colours. Uprising and N1SB 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386435-saturnine-during-great-crusade/#findComment-6126644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted yesterday at 11:03 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:03 AM Since I agree with everything said, just wanted to say I love the idea of using these old relics from the Great Crusade to signify these "Orphans of War" (I think that's the term for Loyalist elements from the Traitor Legions,) like they had been deployed far away with outdated gear when Horus/Erebus turned their Legions, and are being recalled back to an Imperium they no longer recognise. Or just having Legions used their old Saturnine gear in their pre-Primarch colours in general, like they had it mothballed way back, but now with depleting resources, they're dusting off the old equipment to throw into the fray. Brother Uprising, now you got me thinking about it, too! Doghouse and Uprising 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386435-saturnine-during-great-crusade/#findComment-6126713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted 21 hours ago Author Share Posted 21 hours ago First, I want to say thank everyone for there comments and answering my question. Seems like everything is era current within the box (except for the turrent imho). Since we are here. If you had to make a war Hound theme force out of the Saturine box, what loadout would you build the box out? Thinking maybe making a small zone mortalis force out of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386435-saturnine-during-great-crusade/#findComment-6126767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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