DemonGSides Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 2 hours ago, Orange Knight said: I always imagined the lasgun having a red beam? I seem to recall that was the case in a few of the 40k CGI animations from official sources? Well you just made some people very angry, I'm sure. GW's own stance is "Normally yellow, but there's a lot of reasons they'd be something else, so go nuts." https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cvvjq1ua/las-canon-how-the-astra-militarums-indomitable-lasgun-works/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL_Mission Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Weird, I never gave Lasgun fire colour too much thought. Lascannons fire was always clearly blue in my mind and I guess red for Lasguns, don't ask me why I imagined them as different colours, bigger guns mean different wavelengths or something. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, CL_Mission said: Weird, I never gave Lasgun fire colour too much thought. Lascannons fire was always clearly blue in my mind and I guess red for Lasguns, don't ask me why I imagined them as different colours, bigger guns mean different wavelengths or something. Dawn of War? Lasguns are red while the lascannons are blue on the landraider and predators as I recall.... CL_Mission, ThaneOfTas, Lord Blacksteel and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Maybe Las Guns made on different planets have different beam colours... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I can't recall from the first footage but they're also a bolt and less of a beam now iirc? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Lasguns shoot red beams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Las has always had different colours (much like plasma). But also, lasguns for imperial forces have traditionally been red. The mass of red las beams in dow1 is pretty iconic, and both darktide and space marine 2 also use the red beam. It's what people expect to see from guard lasguns in video games, just like they expect to see green zappy rays from the necrons. Scribe 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 19 hours ago, Mogger351 said: I initially agreed but theres a whole heap of evidence to say this is the correct representation of the lasgun somehow. Likely GW being bad or inconsistent with physics. It wouldn't be sci-fi/fantasy without SOME inaccurate physics. ThaneOfTas, Lord Marshal and Dark Shepherd 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Hey, could be Star Wars with its 'laser cannons' that are just, in-universe, particle beams. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 I'm very excited for this game. But from the recent trailer/teaser I think the voices are lacking. Something. Dow1 is just so iconic we could quote it for an hour. Like a Monty Python sketch. This game needs the same. If it ain't the same or better it ain't'nt. Witness the Glory of the Emperor, through me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) I feel like I'm going crazy here, reading the last page of posts. No, the change isn't about color. I have no idea where anyone is getting that idea. The most recent depictions of Lasguns turn them into Star Wars blasters. They don't shoot beams anymore, they shoot discrete bolts. Bolts that can be visibly tracked because they move much slower than the speed of light. Edited September 30 by Shinespider No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 46 minutes ago, Shinespider said: I feel like I'm going crazy here, reading the last page of posts. No, the change isn't about color. I have no idea where anyone is getting that idea. The most recent depictions of Lasguns turn them into Star Wars blasters. They don't shoot beams anymore, they shoot discrete bolts. Bolts that can be visibly tracked because they move much slower than the speed of light. I'm old enough to remember the Fire Warrior game where lasguns shot little, almost "globes" of red light at stuff. They, and the game, were not particularly good, but that's my first recollection of Lasguns in a video game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 47 minutes ago, Shinespider said: I feel like I'm going crazy here, reading the last page of posts. No, the change isn't about color. I have no idea where anyone is getting that idea. The most recent depictions of Lasguns turn them into Star Wars blasters. They don't shoot beams anymore, they shoot discrete bolts. Bolts that can be visibly tracked because they move much slower than the speed of light. Yeah, this was the original issue. Though I am hoping this is just due to the early alpha gameplay and they used the 'projectile effect' as a placeholder until they got the lasbeam one done and added in. In regards to the trailer, it looks alright? Maybe I'm just jaded from quite a few games being not great at launch but this isn't 'wow' ing me like DoW and DoW2 did, just seems a little... soft? for lack of a better term. Have to see how later trailers and gameplay footage look before making final judgement, but I was kinda in the hopes that Relic would keep it and basically make it similar to CoH2/3 but 40k which would have been great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Leaving Relic behind is the best thing that could've happened. They've been making steadily worse games year over year. It looks more brutal than ever. Multiple instances of what looks like instant full squad kills. Very excited. HeadlessCross, TheVoidDragon, No Foes Remain and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6134359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Spoiler Heeeerrreee's Johnny! Amusing timing on this one, considering the lack the expected Total War 40k trailer. Edited 2 hours ago by Lord Marshal Mechanicus Tech-Support 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Looks like the Lion will feature in the story, probably as a hero unit. Wasn't expecting a showcase of the Dark Angels in a DoW game. I wonder how they're going to handle the faction specific units and differences. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicus Tech-Support Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I keep telling myself to control my expectations but dang is it getting hard to do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Nooooo, this is so unnecessary. The protagonists are blood ravens. They dont need to "find" a primarch just for wow factor. Moreover 2 marine factions will become visually confusing, fast, assuming there's an army painter included. crimsondave and Lord Marshal 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Knowing how the Blood Ravens operate, this means the Lion is their primarch now doesn't it? Lord Marshal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Primarchs once again making the game universe smaller? Shocked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago Call me crytical, but why is he there? Would be far more interesting to see the Blood Ravens dive deeper into the roots of what they once had on Kronus (their old keep) than the DA and the Lion turn up to turn the tide. The more I see of DoW4 the less I'm liking, is this what it's like to get old? I don't want to be old, but my back and knees say otherwise.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsondave Posted 42 minutes ago Share Posted 42 minutes ago I guess I'm the lone ranger but without the Dark Angels the chances of me buying this game was exactly 0%. It's now 100%. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386542-dawn-of-war-iv-new-story-trailer-page-5/page/5/#findComment-6145459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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